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Here an article about a protest organizing to push for sharia law in the UK.

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Members have urged Muslims from all over Britain to converge on the capital on October 31 for a procession to demand the full implementation of sharia law.

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The group declared: “We hereby request all Muslims in the United Kingdom, in Manchester, Leeds, Cardiff, Glasgow and all other places to join us and collectively declare that as submitters to Almighty Allah, we have had enough of democracy and man-made law and the depravity of the British culture.

“On this day we will call for a complete upheaval of the British ruling system its members and legislature, and demand the full implementation of Shari’ah in Britain.”

I love this one. This youtuber is advocating the use of sharia law, because of industries like the porn industry, alcohol industry exploit the citizen. But the subjugate women is practice in the religion.
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Plans for the march are revealed on the website Islam4UK, which is fronted by preacher Anjem Choudary who has also called for all British women to wear burkhas.

It's also spark some reaction here in the U.S.A
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I'll bet that's Iffy's agenda!
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Oy.

The stupid, it hurts.
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The fact that Muslims are less than 3% of the population and that even among Muslims they are most likely a (small) minority probably won't make any difference to them...

Great news for all the Muslim-hating assholes in Europe (far above 3% of the population). Maybe they should go bowling.
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The fact that Muslims are less than 3% of the population and that even among Muslims they are most likely a (small) minority probably won't make any difference to them...

Great news for all the Muslim-hating assholes in Europe (far above 3% of the population). Maybe they should go bowling.
I also heard most muslims don't agree with the group,but we'll see.
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Well, I don't know about the UK, but I am sure the majority of Muslims here would not agree with them, there has been research (by the secret service among others).
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Sharia Banking Comes to Germany

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There are four million Muslims living in Germany. They eat, drink and pray in accordance with the precepts of the Prophet Muhammad. But when it comes to monetary transactions, the principles of the Koran have played hardly any role in Germany. That is about to change.

Early next year, the first Islamic bank in Germany to offer products that are in compliance with Sharia law will open its doors.
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Investments that comply with the Koran still represent only 1 percent of the total market, but the market is growing is by 15 to 20 percent a year. Customers from the oil-rich Persian Gulf region, in particular, insist that their capital must be invested in accordance with religious criteria.
What do you suppose will happen? Do you think it's a wise decision? :chin:
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I don't think there is anything wrong with that as such, there is a trend towards socially responsible banking for instance that sets moral criteria. Religious criteria in principle are more or less the same thing.

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Islamic banking has been used by fundamentalist jihadis in the 1980s and 1990s to build a network to finance the support for their cause (as described in Robert Dreyfuss' Devil's Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam) for instance.
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I don't think there is anything wrong with that as such, there is a trend towards socially responsible banking for instance that sets moral criteria. Religious criteria in principle are more or less the same thing.

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Islamic banking has been used by fundamentalist jihadis in the 1980s and 1990s to build a network to finance the support for their cause (as described in Robert Dreyfuss' Devil's Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam) for instance.
I don't find nothing wrong with it. It's just I can't help thinking there's always an agenda behind "Religious Businesses". An example is a Christian Karate school around my In-law's neighborhood.

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I had some very conservative Christian students attend some of my kendo training sessions on a couple of occasions. They refused to bow or meditate, because they considered these "un-Christian" practices. I pointed out to them that these were in no way religious practices; that the point was to show respect to each other and to emphasize the importance of proper etiquette (in the case of bowing), and to calm and focus the mind (in the case of meditation).

They nonetheless seemed to think these were "un-Christian" practices (how and why beats me), and I pointed out to them that to refuse to obey the rules of etiquette and to refuse to meditate was to more or less to miss the entire point of kendo training. They soon stopped showing up.


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My first two yoga teachers (they were a team) were a pair of born-again Christian ladies. One day it came up in conversation before class that some of their Christian peers considered what they did to be sinful or devil worship. She goes, "Oh yeah, breathing. It's sinful. Stretching. It's from the devil!" and just rolls her eyes and laughs. I think I benefited from her Christianity, as she kept all of the religious woo stuff out of the practice and just made the focus on what we were actually, physically doing. Plus then I could always get a giggle when the CAP-Alert guy would take off points from a movie if someone practiced yoga in the movie.
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I don't find never wrong if it.
The more I think about it the more that sentence makes my brain hurt.

You going to have to excuse me, but I tend to stay up late from time to time. Insomnia wears me down, every once in a while.


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I had some very conservative Christian students attend some of my kendo training sessions on a couple of occasions. They refused to bow or meditate, because they considered these "un-Christian" practices. I pointed out to them that these were in no way religious practices; that the point was to show respect to each other and to emphasize the importance of proper etiquette (in the case of bowing), and to calm and focus the mind (in the case of meditation).

They nonetheless seemed to think these were "un-Christian" practices (how and why beats me), and I pointed out to them that to refuse to obey the rules of etiquette and to refuse to meditate was to more or less to miss the entire point of kendo training. They soon stopped showing up.


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It's depressing when I think about that. To think I used to give my teacher a hard time with the adam and eve story. My friend once told me that when he went to school.It was hard for him to be opinionated, in Cuba. He said "I think it's best to enforce this policy, because opinions interferes with the lessons". What do you think? I understand leniency, but when you see the state of the youth today, I don't know what to think. Take the chinese education system for example. Teachers get there lesson across.
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They nonetheless seemed to think these were "un-Christian" practices (how and why beats me), and I pointed out to them that to refuse to obey the rules of etiquette and to refuse to meditate was to more or less to miss the entire point of kendo training. They soon stopped showing up.


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Another option would be to teach them that meditating is a lot like praying. Except to yourself. And not out loud.
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There are four million Muslims living in Germany. They eat, drink and pray in accordance with the precepts of the Prophet Muhammad. But when it comes to monetary transactions, the principles of the Koran have played hardly any role in Germany. That is about to change.

Early next year, the first Islamic bank in Germany to offer products that are in compliance with Sharia law will open its doors.
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Investments that comply with the Koran still represent only 1 percent of the total market, but the market is growing is by 15 to 20 percent a year. Customers from the oil-rich Persian Gulf region, in particular, insist that their capital must be invested in accordance with religious criteria.
What do you suppose will happen? Do you think it's a wise decision? :chin:
I predict that American fundonazis will react to the move toward Islamic banking. Not to be outdone by them thar tarryists, by next year you'll be seeing branch offices of "New Covenant Bank", which only invests in companies with judeo-christian principles.
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Not the same thing, but the first time I heard Thrivent Financial for Lutherans mentioned, I thought it was one of Garrison Keillor's joke sponsors, like "Bertha's Kitty Boutique." Apparently though, it's completely legitimate.

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My first two yoga teachers (they were a team) were a pair of born-again Christian ladies. One day it came up in conversation before class that some of their Christian peers considered what they did to be sinful or devil worship. She goes, "Oh yeah, breathing. It's sinful. Stretching. It's from the devil!" and just rolls her eyes and laughs. I think I benefited from her Christianity, as she kept all of the religious woo stuff out of the practice and just made the focus on what we were actually, physically doing. Plus then I could always get a giggle when the CAP-Alert guy would take off points from a movie if someone practiced yoga in the movie.
They obviously needed to be doing some Praise Moves instead.
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