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[Jerome]

Plenty of observational evidence on this video which shows the bottoms of an object in the distance disappearing into the horizon.

You are literally denying your own observed reality and the observational evidence of others.

Flat Earth Horizons II - Flatter, Straighter,...

[Jerome]

Here you can see water in zero-g on earth.

lol @ you guys would believe Star Wars is real if NASA said so

Zero G SQUASH'D by Gravity VFX Oscar winners...

[lisarea]

Just checking in to see what's going on in this thread.

OK, well, that makes perfect sense.

Godspeed.

[fragment]

Originally Posted by Jerome

Why do you globe believers keep running away from this observational evidence your model is false?

For the record, no-one's running from anything. It's just barely worth engaging with you, because your standards of evidence range from the startlingly credulous to extreme skepticism, your powers of reasoning are minimal, your trolling is boring, your argumentation is in bad faith, and your willingness to attempt learning stuff (or even read a provided link) is close to non-existent.

[thedoc]

Proving the Earth is not Flat - Part 4 - Easy...

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Jerome

Why do you globe believers keep running away from this observational evidence your model is false?

Originally Posted by fragment

For the record, no-one's running from anything. It's just barely worth engaging with you, because your standards of evidence range from the startlingly credulous to extreme skepticism, your powers of reasoning are minimal, your trolling is boring, your argumentation is in bad faith, and your willingness to attempt learning stuff (or even read a provided link) is close to non-existent.

Strange how no one will address the observation in the posted video.

It debunks your spinning globe model in a single observation.

None of you will address it because you can't, and running away is your only option.

[Jerome]

Thedoc, your video is like what Einstein did. He presented a theory which explains why the moving earth is not observed, to evidence the moving earth.

Think about the logic for just a moment.

Not being able to observe the earth moving proves the earth is moving, that is Einstein!

[thedoc]

The movement of the Earth and the Solar system can be inferred by observing the distant stars, and the distance to the nearest stars can be determined with parallax, and the distance to further stars can be inferred from that. Einstein only provided evidence that we cannot observe the movement of the Earth from the Earth, we must observe distant stars.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by Jerome

Strange how no one will address the observation in the posted video.

It debunks your spinning globe model in a single observation.

Why should anyone waste time addressing an observation that is demonstrably wrong.

Your observation disproves nothing and is based on false assumptions.

[Jerome]

The video posted with the clear observation of the sun in the sky and the moon in shadow on the wrong side debunks your entire model.



You can mealymouth about all the stuff all you want, infer all sorts of nonsense, do all kinds of universe creation with maths, but none of it defeats the observation in the video which simply can not be explained with your model.

This single observation, in and of itself, debunks the spinning globe model.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by Jerome

Thedoc, your video is like what Einstein did.

No, the video demonstrates that the Earth is a globe and not flat. You need to let go of prior assumptions and look at all the evidence, not just the evidence that supports your own pet theory.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by Jerome

The video posted with the clear observation of the sun in the sky and the moon in shadow on the wrong side debunks your entire model.

This single observation, in and of itself, debunks the spinning globe model.

No it doesn't, it supports what has been presented as the explanation of what has been observed, that observation supports the spinning globe theory. Only if you assume the flat Earth, is there any problem.

[Jerome]

Then explain the observation with your model.

How is the wrong side of the moon in shadow?

Have you watched the video? Its not a flat earth video or anything, just a guy recording an eclipse.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by Jerome

Then explain the observation with your model.

How is the wrong side of the moon in shadow?

Have you watched the video? Its not a flat earth video or anything, just a guy recording an eclipse.

The shadow is not on the "wrong" side, it is on the correct side according to the evidence presented. The Sun light is passing on the other side of the Earth to cast a shadow on the Moon. The shadow appears on the upper side, from the observers point of view. Only if you assume a flat Earth, is there a problem.

[fragment]

Originally Posted by Jerome

How is the wrong side of the moon in shadow?

Refraction. But we've been over that before in the thread. Hence why there's little point in engaging with you.

[thedoc]

Please present your evidence, numbered so that it can be addressed point by point. And also indicate whether you are willing to consider a rebuttal, or are you set in your theory.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by thedoc

The Sun light is passing on the other side of the Earth to cast a shadow on the Moon.

That would mean the sunlight is covering the entire earth all around, no night that day.

The sun is in the sky, above the earth at the point of view, the top of the moon should be lit, not the bottom.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by fragment

Refraction. But we've been over that before in the thread. Hence why there's little point in engaging with you.

Your claim here is the sunlight is refracting around the whole of the earth, the 'bottom' of the earth from the point of view of the observer. That would mean the whole of the earth is in sunlight.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by fragment

Refraction. But we've been over that before in the thread. Hence why there's little point in engaging with you.

I'm not sure if "refraction" is the correct answer, the color (red) is from the Sunlight passing through the Earth's atmosphere, and the shadow is from the body of the Earth blocking the Sunlight from the Moon. The Sunlight is passing on the other side of the Earth from the point of view of the observers.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by Jerome

Your claim here is the sunlight is refracting around the whole of the earth, the 'bottom' of the earth from the point of view of the observer. That would mean the whole of the earth is in sunlight.

No, only the portion of the Earth that is facing the Sun, the rest is in darkness. Sunlight may be slightly bent from passing close to the surface of the Earth, but is does not curve around the whole Earth. You should get together with Peacegirl and compare notes, you have a lot of the same silly ideas, but she has not claimed to be a flat-earther.

[Jerome]

But you said the sunlight was " passing on the other side of the Earth", that would be where night time is supposed to be in your model.

Are you unclear how your model works? It seems so.

[Jerome]

Wait, you are trying to say the sunlight is refracting to light the bottom of the moon, and the shadow is refracting to darken the top of the moon?

wat

Shadows don't refract.

[Jerome]

Its an eclipse, the whole point is the earth is in the way of the light.

Are you saying it not a real eclipse or something? What are you trying to say which fits your model?

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by Jerome

That would mean the sunlight is covering the entire earth all around, no night that day.

The sun is in the sky, above the earth at the point of view, the top of the moon should be lit, not the bottom.

I believe that in the video the Sun was just coming up, not up in the sky, and the Moon was setting. If it was a round Earth there could have been a slight downward angle which would have put the Sunlight coming on the other side of the Earth from the observers. If you assume a flat Earth then the Sun and Moon would both be above the surface of the Earth and the video would not have been possible. The video proves a round Earth.

No-one ever claimed that Sunlight covered the whole Earth, except some misguided flat-Earthers.

Sunrise and Moon setting proves a round Earth, the Flat-Earthers claim that the Sun and Moon are always above the surface of the Earth.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by Jerome

But you said the sunlight was " passing on the other side of the Earth", that would be where night time is supposed to be in your model.

Are you unclear how your model works? It seems so.

The Sun was just rising where the observers were, the Sun would be just setting on the other side of the Earth, it seems that it is you who do not understand the model of the round Earth.