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So if he loses it is because states that voted for him last time must have become racist over these past four years.
1. I made no claims about any root cause for a hypothetical loss. I merely corrected your patently obvious error that "did they vote for the black guy last time, no?"

2. Racism has increased since 2008. The Teabatters are a big cause of that. This isn't news to anyone.
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I live in the deep South and most people here hate him because he's black. In any other case they would vote against a Mormon because they believe Mormons are a dangerous cult ruled by Satan. But even Satan is better than black here.
OK, did they vote for the black guy last time .. no?

Thus racism is not going to determine if he wins or loses this time. He already won the majority last time, he is the President.

It will take people that voted *for* him last time to vote *against* him this time for him to lose.
Um, where did I say anything at all about racism deciding the election today? You are responding to points I didn't make, Jerome.
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also, lol @ Virgina, North Carolina, and Florida are not the south.

The South according to US Census Bureau

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No region claims West Virginia.
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TIL Delaware is South.
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I was gonna say. And Maryland and DC as well. It's kinda weird that the capital of the North is in the South.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:30 PM
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Mother Jones has its own voter suppression map, along with a list of problems that have happened. I'm strongly considering subscribing to them next year because of all the great reporting they've done this year. (Probably can't afford it before then, even though it's $12 per year)
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I was gonna say. And Maryland and DC as well. It's kinda weird that the capital of the North is in the South.
That's the historical division more so than the current, cultural division.

DC and most parts of Delaware and Maryland don't consider themselves Southern.

The southern rural parts of those states probably do - but they're not very much of their state populations at all.

Baltimore and Washington, DC represent the southernmost part of the northeastern US line of metropolises (Boston-Providence-New York- Philadelphia-Baltimore-DC sometimes called BosWash) and certainly politically they act like the other parts.

Anyway, Jerome was laughing at the suggestion that Southerners didn't vote for Obama, not saying that Virginia, NC and Florida weren't part of the Southern region. But this, of course, doesn't prove in any way that Obama did or didn't lose votes because of racism, since the idea certainly isn't that Obama should have gotten a fixed percent of the vote if that were true, but rather than his margin of victory would be decreased by some number of points (so, perhaps without racism he would have achieved a 10 pt victory over McCain, for example).
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NAACP accuses Mississippi country clerk of failing to process thousands of voter registrations | The Raw Story

Romney's plan to steal the election
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It all sounds a lot like Milosevic in his last days. As long as you almost win the elections, it's easy to steal them.
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Video showing registered voters being forced to vote with provisional ballots—the very same provisional ballots that Secretary Husted claims are going to be a "problem" in the Ohio election.


I got the link to this video from the Twitter #VoterSuppression hashtag.

There's also a great quote in that Twitter channel:

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also, lol @ Virgina, North Carolina, and Florida are not the south.
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The South according to US Census Bureau

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Exactly, I was pointing out that those states *are* in the south and they voted for the black guy.
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I was gonna say. And Maryland and DC as well. It's kinda weird that the capital of the North is in the South.
Lincoln had the Maryland legislature arrested sans charges to prevent the capital from being surrounded.
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Exactly, I was pointing out that those states *are* in the south and they voted for the black guy.
But they are not in the Deep South, which is what LadyShea actually said:
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Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, is it?
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Exactly, I was pointing out that those states *are* in the south and they voted for the black guy.
Except that:

1. the comment was about DEEP south, not merely south;
2. the deep south went 100% for McCain, not Obama - thus proving you wrong;
3. the vast majority of the rest of the south also went for McCain, not Obama

Keep wiggling.
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Racism has increased since 2008.
Are you saying that the black guy did such a poor job that people that voted for him became racist ...

Seriously, you are an idiot.
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Hey, remember that time the Deep South won the presidency for the Democrats?

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Are you saying that the black guy did such a poor job that people that voted for him became racist ...
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Sauron, please explain how america became more racist over the last four years with an elected black guy president.
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Sauron, please explain how giraffes became more rapist over the last four years with an elected baby lemur as Dauphin.
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2nd Pennsylvania voting machine won't let people vote for Obama
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Pennsylvania is a heavy democratic state, how is it logical that PA is cheating for the republican??

They haven't voted republican since 1988.
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Because the state government is all Republicans?
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Sauron, please explain how america became more racist over the last four years with an elected black guy president.
Because the reality that a black president was actually elected suddenly hit every redneck square in the gut, and by God no uppity nigger is going to put his dirty feet in the White House.
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