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Old 04-24-2015, 05:16 PM
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He suggested they might stand up to see what she was reading, or she might poke herself in the eye with the corners of the book.
Makes sense to me. I know I always prefer to read with an edge on view of the page.

To JoeP: While I didn't go to school in Quebec, here in San Diego I had a teacher who also thought that my quietly reading in class was potentially "disruptive". She then proved it by walking over and physically wrenching the books from my hands. Coincidentally, I was the same age at the time as this little girl, in second grade.

She would hand out work packets at once for the whole day that I would finish off in under an hour. So for the rest of the time, I thought it best to just quietly read, but that proved more than she could take. She also objected to what I was reading, because she said it wasn't "age-appropriate". In other words, my reading level was more advanced than other students, and I should be taken to task for reading classic mystery, adventure, and suspense tales instead of whatever Scholastic Press deemed fit for students aged 6-8. My parents had the same fight with the local library, which wanted me to only check out books from the "Children's Room".
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Old 04-24-2015, 05:47 PM
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Old 04-24-2015, 06:30 PM
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:shakebaby: Null. Things I got in trouble for in second grade:

Reading incorrect books.
Reading the correct books incorrectly.
Not looking at the teacher correctly.
Looking out the window.
A vague air of disrespectfulness.
Plagiarism (I did NOT do that one).

And my punishment for all of those things was that she'd send me out to sit on a stool in the hall, facing the wall, and the teacher had recommended that I be moved to some sort of special ed class for the criminally insane or something. It got so bad that someone else at the school called my parents and told them my teacher hated me and they needed to get me out of that school before I was physically injured. (She did grab me by the ear and drag me out of a school play once because she said I was not supposed to laugh at the joke where they had a brain in a jar labeled "Brian," but I don't think any grownups knew about that.)

Fuck second grade, man. We need to get together some sort of rescue team or something where we go around saving kids from second grade.
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Huh. For me it was first grade (second grade was with a teacher who loved the hell out of me). Back then, first grade was when most kids learned to read, rather than in utero like it is now. My teacher was a young woman whose kid was a year older and still struggling because he was kind of dim. I already knew how to read, as well as all the math operations she was trying to teach, so she did her best to come up with something I couldn't do. So she figured out I was a somewhat nervous kid, and came up with a speed-math test. Successfully freaked me out and I couldn't perform the test in the allotted five minutes, even though I could easily do anything on the page without the time limit.

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My grandson's 5th grade teacher lets him read whenever and whatever he wants. She called him a "read-oholic". He can rip through a 500 page novel in two or three days of reading at school only, and then pass a special test on the book so he can get credit for reading it. The school has a grant that funds cash payments to students as reward for reading. It's only paid at the end of each term. Right now he's to be paid a little over $200 for reading this term. We went to the public library the other day to get books because he's read most of anything that interested him at the Pre-K-to-8th grade school library. I, for one, am glad he's a read-oholic, and a computer nerd. The kid wants me to send him to computer camp this summer. I'm going to try to find a way to do that.
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Old 04-25-2015, 05:08 PM
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I am so glad libraries don't do that children's room shit anymore. If I didn't already worship her on GP, I would :bow4::bow4::bow4::bow4: to Judith Krug forever for that. I still remember her, sitting in an IFC meeting, commenting off to the side that she didn't see any reason to restrict children's reading AT ALL, even for s-called adult content.

It was my fourth grade teacher who hated me. I remember one day, we had our workbooks out and I was reading the page next to the one we were on. I also had one of my paperback Chronicles of Narnia sitting closed on the desk. She shouted over the class to me to put away what I was reading. Rather confused, I put the paperback back into my desk. To this day I wish I had put away the workbook like she said, but there was no point escalating things with that woman. Nuns! Sr. Venard, wherever you are, you were a bitch and I wish I'd been old and profane enough to say it to your face.
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I had great elementary school teachers all of whom liked me just fine and were supportive, encouraging, open-minded. Sister Bridget, my first grade teacher, didn't even stifle me despite my habit of running around naked after gym helping the other kids with their clothes. She just mentioned it to my parents and since they didn't have a problem with it, she rolled with it too.

The first teacher who made it clear that she disliked me was my algebra teacher in 7th grade and it was a huge shock to my apple-polishing system. She wasn't a monster like the guys who messed with y'all. She just thought I was an awful human being, I guess, and consistently lowballed my grades. When I brought home my first B- ever on my report card that first semester, shit got very, very real at the parent-teacher conference.

Second semester I figured out that the thing she hated the most about me was how outspoken/loud I was, so I just got very quiet in class and that was sufficient to get my grade up to an A-. Never had to deal with her again after that. The strangest thing is I went to the same school from 1st grade to 12th. I had known that algebra teacher since I was 5 years old and we always got along just fine. Hell, we had talked about how much we were looking forward to having our first class together. It's not like I was demure or some shit until the moment I stepped into Algebra I. People are weird.
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I remember my 2nd grade teacher marking my score down on a paper because I signed it in cursive. 2nd graders weren't ready for cursive writing, I guess. Now, they're not teaching cursive writing at all in many schools.
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And not letting your kids do anything on their own just leaves them dumb and unprepared to function in the real world. That ten year old could be driving in a little over five years, and will be able to vote, join the military, and go out completely on his own a few years after that.

It is far, far more dangerous for a ten year old NOT to have the skills and the knowledge to get around their neighborhood on their own. It's 2015. Not only is it a hell of a lot safer now than it was when any of us were kids, but now, you can get your kid a cell phone for an extra layer of security.
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My grandson's 5th grade teacher lets him read whenever and whatever he wants. She called him a "read-oholic". He can rip through a 500 page novel in two or three days of reading at school only, and then pass a special test on the book so he can get credit for reading it. The school has a grant that funds cash payments to students as reward for reading. It's only paid at the end of each term. Right now he's to be paid a little over $200 for reading this term. We went to the public library the other day to get books because he's read most of anything that interested him at the Pre-K-to-8th grade school library. I, for one, am glad he's a read-oholic, and a computer nerd. The kid wants me to send him to computer camp this summer. I'm going to try to find a way to do that.
Now they've capped the reading award at $50, probably because of him.
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What low expectations they have for kids today! I used to read a book a day when I was a kid, no incentive needed. Reading is just as fun today and it was back then, I just have far less time to kill doing it.
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Yeah, there was no reward for me either, and I read at least as voraciously as does my grandson, but then there were only three channels on the tv at the time, and summers were long and hot, too hot do do anything other than read.
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I had a sixth grade teacher try to nail me on the plagiarism thing. Basically, she didn't think that I had written it myself because the vocabulary was way above grade level. So my mother gets all mother bear on her case and says if you think he copied that from somewhere then you go find where he copied it from. We have two sets of encylopedias at home, you are welcome to come to our house and comb through them. Or, you could just try talking to him on the subject of your choice. You will discover that he talks the way he writes. The teacher backed off.

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