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Similarly, people who "don't see race" don't see patterns in which racism is prevalent in policing, in schools, and in public perception. Pretending you can't see race doesn't make racism go away. It helps perpetuate it.
So, having Awareness on ignore doesn't make him going away?
Why would you say that Joep, you do not even know me, but i am getting to know you, that is the whole problem is it not Joep , for you to say something?

Say something chickenshit.........
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Similarly, people who "don't see race" don't see patterns in which racism is prevalent in policing, in schools, and in public perception. Pretending you can't see race doesn't make racism go away. It helps perpetuate it.
So, having Awareness on ignore doesn't make him going away?
Yes, by not answering him you are allowing his posts to go unchallenged.
Thank you for your most wonderful reply thedoc, some are just chickenshit to say something that means something, that challenges me........

I always like to say " some people " thedoc, you know ?

Saying " some people " is saying it real safe, saying " some people " is actually being really accurate in terms of how many people are like that , or like this, or whatever.
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It's pretty cool how the :ff: is celebrating its 100th anniversary by resurrecting this thread from 1916, back when colorblindness seemed like a good solution to systemic racism, rather than just barely plausible deniability for things like poll tests and redlining and such.

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Anyways you got my meaning i see Lisarea
I don't think you got my meaning, though.

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The argument you're making is kind of facile and outdated. Modern mainstream racism usually doesn't take the form of people saying openly, explicitly racist things.
Yes you got my meaning all right, lets spell it out again first ; saying black people or white people is saying something real ignorant , because it is just a figment of your imagination, just seeing a colour and you already assume that you have seen the person !!Then you are one retarded individual......

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The most insidious form of racism now is dogwhistle racism that relies on people not to notice race.
You would like to keep race in is it not Lisera, and totally ignore the indidual !!

Well you are outnumbered.........and your kind of race is dying out, there wont be any colours to mix any more, and what then Lisera ?? Hmmm, you're preserving your semen?? ( if that helps, this part will be continued ,next !)

Say after 10.000 years, 10.000 years ago we were all fighting the sabre toothed tiger, but that's behind the point, after 10.000 years MAN WILL BE ALL ONE COLOUR AND ONE RACE, and Lisera 10.000 will try to find something new to dissociate from.......

Or there will a Lisera 10.000 colony trying to bring back the white man : " HE IS ALIVE! "

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So, in my examples, redlining is a practice in which organizations such as lenders, health care providers, and shops, rather than directly discriminating according to race, instead discriminate according to area. That is, they draw up maps with red lines delineating areas according to their racial makeup, and do not provide service to those areas. People who don't notice race just provide cover for that discrimination.
What are you saying here Lisera, it is a lot of jibber jabber, in short bullshit !!

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Poll tests and taxes work in much the same way. In order to vote, municipalities would require some sort of test or tax at the polls that would disproportionately affect black people. If you've ever heard the term 'grandfather clause,' that refers to an exemption for people whose grandfathers were eligible to vote. And if you didn't notice what color people were, you might not notice that, at the time, black people's grandfathers hadn't had voting rights, so only white people were eligible for that exemption. And there is an increased effort in the US right now explicitly and intentionally trying to prevent black people from voting. Most but not all of them are smart enough not to let that slip, though, so you kind of need to notice when you see lots of people being turned away from the polls, and most of them are black.
I said black people do not exist, can't you get that through Lisera?
Speak about individuals with a tan, if you especially want to bring out the colour of the face !!



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Similarly, people who "don't see race" don't see patterns in which racism is prevalent in policing, in schools, and in public perception. Pretending you can't see race doesn't make racism go away. It helps perpetuate it.
I just wanted to display ignorance ...........

GOOD WORDS FOR MYSELF ACTUALLY LISERA : PRETENDING TO SEE ONLY A COLOURED FACE , DOES NOT AND WILL NOT MAKE THE PERSON GO AWAY, EVENTUALLY INDIVIDUALITY WILL PREVAIL. WHICH IS OF COURSE NOT BASED ON HOW YOU LOOK

THE WHITE COLOURED FACED MAN WAS AN ASSHOLE AND STILL YOU WANT TO CHERISH THE PAST LISERA ??

What is it that you want actually? Do you want to keep the colours or do you want to find out how PEOPLE really are as persons??

THAT IS SO DAMN LAME JUDGING PEOPLE BY THE WAY THEY LOOK , IT IS SO DAMN OLD FASHIONED !!!!

SO BLACK AN WHITE AND YELLOW AND EVEN GREEN PEOPLE DO NOT EXIST ANYMORE IN OUR MINDS, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO MAKE ROOM FOR PEOPLE JUST ONLY PEOPLE, CONSISTING OUT OF INDUVIDUALS WITH WANTS AND NEEDS AND DREAMS......


YEAH JUST KEEP ON CHASING YOUR RACES LISERA TO KEEP DISCRIMINATION ALIVE !!!
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Zal ik het maar even Nedersplainen?

Wat ze dus bedoelt is dat "kleurenblindheid" gebruikt kan worden om hele gemene truuks te verbergen: bijvoorbeeld door geen diensten aan te bieden in gebieden waar voornamelijk mensen van een bepaalde afkomst wonen.

Vervolgens kunnen instanties en bedrijven die dat flikken volhouden dat ze ook "kleurenblind" zijn, terwijl ze stiekem kunnen discrimineren wat ze willen.

Hetzelfde geld door regels die je op een "kleurenblinde" manier uitvoert, maar die eigenlijk bepaalde bevolkinsgroepen uitsluiten: een voorbeeld hiervan is een regel die stelt dat je mag stemmen als je een huis van een bepaalde waarde bezit. De regel refereert niet naar afkomst per se, en is voor iedereen hetzeflde, maar tegelijkertijd kan je er op die manier wel voor zorgen dat maar een klein gedeelte van recente immigranten mag stemmen.

"Kleurenblindheid" word dus vaak als een nogal ouderwets en naief begrip ervaren, iets dat voornamelijk word gezegd door mensen die net willen doen of racisme en discriminatie niet bestaan. Het staat ook nogal lullig als je het tegen een slachtoffer van discriminatie zegt. Aan de ene kant zeg je "Ik vind het niet erg dat je een andere (wat dan ook) hebt!" alsof mensen je daar dankbaarheid voor verschuldigd zijn of zo, en vervolgens lijkt het net of je denkt dat je daarmee het probleem van racisme hebt opgelost, en dat is natuurlijk klinkklare onzin.

Je bedoelt het vast goed, maar de werkelijkheid heeft je al ongeveer 30 jaar ingehaald.
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I just wanted to display ignorance ...........
I think this sums it up nicely.
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I just wanted to display ignorance ...........
I think this sums it up nicely.

Yeah and what are you going to do about it, keep your ignorance alive. or change specious_reasons ? Just reading and reporting my superb intelligence is just not enough, are you going to challenge it or not??

Or are you also chickening out?
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Zal ik het maar even Nedersplainen?

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Wat ze dus bedoelt is dat "kleurenblindheid" gebruikt kan worden om hele gemene truuks te verbergen: bijvoorbeeld door geen diensten aan te bieden in gebieden waar voornamelijk mensen van een bepaalde afkomst wonen.

Waar heb je het in God's naam over eigenlijk??

What in God's name are you talking about anyways?

Colour blind that i understand, maar u hoeft just niet naar kleur te kijken !!

You do not have to look at colour anymore Vivisectus !!


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Vervolgens kunnen instanties en bedrijven die dat flikken volhouden dat ze ook "kleurenblind" zijn, terwijl ze stiekem kunnen discrimineren wat ze willen.
Wat is men toch oerlomp !!!

wordt vervolgd , moet nog wat doen, maar u ook begrijpt het ook....

dus laat het goed bezinken Vivi......
Hetzelfde geld door regels die je op een "kleurenblinde" manier uitvoert, maar die eigenlijk bepaalde bevolkinsgroepen uitsluiten: een voorbeeld hiervan is een regel die stelt dat je mag stemmen als je een huis van een bepaalde waarde bezit. De regel refereert niet naar afkomst per se, en is voor iedereen hetzeflde, maar tegelijkertijd kan je er op die manier wel voor zorgen dat maar een klein gedeelte van recente immigranten mag stemmen.

"Kleurenblindheid" word dus vaak als een nogal ouderwets en naief begrip ervaren, iets dat voornamelijk word gezegd door mensen die net willen doen of racisme en discriminatie niet bestaan. Het staat ook nogal lullig als je het tegen een slachtoffer van discriminatie zegt. Aan de ene kant zeg je "Ik vind het niet erg dat je een andere (wat dan ook) hebt!" alsof mensen je daar dankbaarheid voor verschuldigd zijn of zo, en vervolgens lijkt het net of je denkt dat je daarmee het probleem van racisme hebt opgelost, en dat is natuurlijk klinkklare onzin.

Je bedoelt het vast goed, maar de werkelijkheid heeft je al ongeveer 30 jaar ingehaald.
Waar komt die ongelooflijke domheid vandaan eigenlijk??

Where does this dutch stupidity come from anyways??
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I need this thrad Nederspained to me.

NIET NODIG, BLACK IS JUST A DAMN COLOUR OF THE SKIN........

ACTUALLY WHITE IS THE ONLY COLOUR THAT HAS A MEANING WHEN LOOKING BACK IN HISTORY,

AND THAT IS OF COURSE THE ONE AND ONLY ASSHOLE

Dus kleur bekennen en haal uw kop uit het zand !!! Na al die jaren, " Mirakel van Europa "!
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STUPIDITY IS ALWAYS VERY EASY TO FIGHT, SO GIVE IT UP AND START LEARNING YOU DUMB BASTARDS AMONGST THE GOOD !!

BUT A " RANKIN FITCH " IS JUST A " RANKIN FITCH " , BUT THERE IS HOPE......ALWAYS , PEOPLE CAN CHANGE.....


SO AGAIN WE ARE NOW JUST PEOPLE FROM THIS DAY ON, WE ARE NOT BLACK , WE ARE NOT WHITE , WE ARE NOT ANY COLOUR , WE ARE JUST PEOPLE,


JUST PLAIN OLD PEOPLE, IS'NT THAT REFRESHING TO NOT BE A COLOUR ??

I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WANT TO STAY AND BE THE COLOUR DIOR WHITE, BUT IT IS JUST FOR THE GOOD OF MAN........
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Trainers and facilitators say colorblindness does just the opposite: folks who enjoy racial privilege are closing their eyes to the experiences of others.

“It benefits me not to pay attention,” says Benn, who is white. “I never have to question whether or not my race is being held in question when I apply for a job. It benefits me not to question that (because) it makes it look like I got here on my own.”
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In order to be effective, teachers will have to learn about the cultural experiences of their students, while using these experiences as a foundation for teaching. The approach is called culturally relevant pedagogy.

But that is hard to do if a teacher doesn’t see differences as valuable. That means the blinders have to come off, says Randy Ross, a senior equity specialist at the New England Equity Assistance Center, a program of Brown University’s Education Alliance. Ross facilitates workshops on racism and culturally responsive teaching. And in her experience, white people have the hardest time opening their eyes.

“I have never heard a teacher of color say ‘I don’t see color,” Ross says. “There may be issues of cultural competence [among teachers of color], but colorblindness is not one of them. The core of ‘I don’t see color,’ is ‘I don’t see my own color, I don’t see difference because my race and culture is the center of the universe.’”

Such tunnel vision is the reason a teacher can omit Africa from a timeline of world civilizations, Ross says. Still, she cautions, the flaws of the colorblind approach run deeper than curriculum.

Failure to see and acknowledge racial differences makes it difficult to recognize the unconscious biases everyone has. Those biases can taint a teacher’s expectations of a student’s ability and negatively influence a student’s performance. Study after study has shown that low teacher expectations are harmful to students from socially stigmatized groups.
Color competency is not racism. Learning about other cultures related to ethnicity and regions is not racism. Acknowledging that there are differences in the experiences of growing up White and the experience of growing up as a person of color is not racism.

Race is largely a social construct. Knowing this is important. But pretending there are no differences in experiences and society and opportunity for people of different ethnic backgrounds is ludicrous and short-sighted. Claiming color blindness is the solution is erroneous.
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Nope, it's not a language barrier. Awareness is equally semi-coherent in Dutch as he is in English.

Actually quite a rare, if useless talent.
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I just wanted to display ignorance ...........
I think this sums it up nicely.

Yeah and what are you going to do about it, keep your ignorance alive. or change specious_reasons ? Just reading and reporting my superb intelligence is just not enough, are you going to challenge it or not??

Or are you also chickening out?
If people weren't human and didn't act like humans, then we wouldn't have the human problem of racism.

Telling everyone there's no distinction is pointless when some people want to find differences, intentionally or not.

I do my best by understanding my biases, and I consciously work to recognize them and avoid unintentionally acting out on them. That's literally the least I can do as a skeptic and inclusive human.

So, no, I don't agree with you, and I don't consider your posts wisdom. I do always, always regret responding.
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How, in the face of this incontrivertible documentary evidence, can you contiue to claim that that black & white people do not exist?
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How, in the face of this incontrivertible documentary evidence, can you contiue to claim that that black & white people do not exist?
At least i like your style, it is just heavenly Angakuk/

In our God forsaken minds do black and white people exist as different kinds of people and only for the sake of being able to discriminate...........

Saying we are equal is just not enough for SOME ASSHOLES roaming around the earth.

But as i said before Angakuk ( i miss your finger pointing) ; A Rankin Fitch is just a Rankin Fitch , but there is always chance that he or she can and even will change for the good of man kind........

How we are as persons all around the world has a face , but it is not black or white.......the face is even more supreme in fact......
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I just wanted to display ignorance ...........
I think this sums it up nicely.

Yeah and what are you going to do about it, keep your ignorance alive. or change specious_reasons ? Just reading and reporting my superb intelligence is just not enough, are you going to challenge it or not??

Or are you also chickening out?
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If people weren't human and didn't act like humans, then we wouldn't have the human problem of racism.

I am not sure if you know , but being human is today being an asshole 80%, and being nice 20%, or have you not looked at what has been happening around the world say these past 100 years ?

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Telling everyone there's no distinction is pointless when some people want to find differences, intentionally or not.

The only distinction in all of us, is how we feel about things specious_reasons



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I do my best by understanding my biases, and I consciously work to recognize them and avoid unintentionally acting out on them. That's literally the least I can do as a skeptic and inclusive human.
What in the world are you saying here? How about looking further Specious_reasons, is that an idea?


Now this is a reply, i thank you........you are kind of young are'nt you?

Try learning about life
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Nope, it's not a language barrier. Awareness is equally semi-coherent in Dutch as he is in English.

Actually quite a rare, if useless talent.

AL LEAST YOU GOT IT IN YOUR FACE WHICH IS WORTH YOU INSULTS,

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YOU KNOW AT LAST MAN CAN COMMUNICATE, THE IGNORANT ARE SPEECHLESS

AND THE WISE MEN AND WOMAN HAVE THEIR SAY, WITHIN SECONDS YOU CAN SAY SOMETHING AND YOU HAVE THE PROTECTIVENESS OF INTERNET WHERE YOU JUST CAN NOT BE RUDELY INTERRUPTED !!
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4 exclamation marks and all caps - a sure sign of a mind on the edge of the abyss :)
IS THAT ALL VIVSECTUS, AND NOT EVEN HARSH, WICH MY STATEMENTS AT LEAST DESERVE !!

Can you reply or not Vivisectus ??

Where is your wisdom to put me on my place ??

Of komt uw wijsheid uit de toilet ?
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If people weren't human and didn't act like humans, then we wouldn't have the human problem of racism.
I am not sure if you know , but being human is today being an asshole 80%, and being nice 20%, or have you not looked at what has been happening around the world say these past 100 years ?

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Telling everyone there's no distinction is pointless when some people want to find differences, intentionally or not.
The only distinction in all of us, is how we feel about things specious_reasons

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What in the world are you saying here? How about looking further Specious_reasons, is that an idea?

Now this is a reply, i thank you........you are kind of young are'nt you?

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Not young at all. I've been a skeptic most of my life, and the best lesson I learned from it is how fragile my understanding of any subject can be.

You learn that your brain has all sorts of tricks and shortcuts, and that you have biases, generalizations made from observations. You learn that the smarter you are, the more capable you are of making your biases seem like rational thought.

You learn that even if you have these biases, you can recognize them, and make a conscious decision to think more carefully about the subject.

So, I might have some preconceived notion of a person, if they're a particular skin color or have a certain hereditary feature. That might be good or bad, but if I recognize that bias, I can choose to suspend judgement until I actually know that person. Like I said, this is literally the least I can do to be an inclusive human.

Not everybody is aware of their biases. Heck, I'm sure I have biases I'm not aware of. You expect everybody to "not see color" when they don't even know they're seeing color, how do you think that's going to work?

Also, are you going to tell the KKK (for example) that they shouldn't see color? Why should they take that advice?

So not seeing color is really an ideal state, a dream we have yet to achieve as humans, and until then, we have to be diligent guarding ourselves against our biases.

My current bias is that you have a lot of ideas that are unchecked, untested against reality, and not very coherent. I regret every time I reply to one of these threads because I then feel the desire to slog through your fragile understanding of responses and nigh-incomprehensible text.
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If people weren't human and didn't act like humans, then we wouldn't have the human problem of racism.
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Telling everyone there's no distinction is pointless when some people want to find differences, intentionally or not.
The only distinction in all of us, is how we feel about things specious_reasons

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I do my best by understanding my biases, and I consciously work to recognize them and avoid unintentionally acting out on them. That's literally the least I can do as a skeptic and inclusive human.
What in the world are you saying here? How about looking further Specious_reasons, is that an idea?

Now this is a reply, i thank you........you are kind of young are'nt you?

Try learning about life
Not young at all. I've been a skeptic most of my life, and the best lesson I learned from it is how fragile my understanding of any subject can be.

You learn that your brain has all sorts of tricks and shortcuts, and that you have biases, generalizations made from observations. You learn that the smarter you are, the more capable you are of making your biases seem like rational thought.

You learn that even if you have these biases, you can recognize them, and make a conscious decision to think more carefully about the subject.

So, I might have some preconceived notion of a person, if they're a particular skin color or have a certain hereditary feature. That might be good or bad, but if I recognize that bias, I can choose to suspend judgement until I actually know that person. Like I said, this is literally the least I can do to be an inclusive human.

Not everybody is aware of their biases. Heck, I'm sure I have biases I'm not aware of. You expect everybody to "not see color" when they don't even know they're seeing color, how do you think that's going to work?

Also, are you going to tell the KKK (for example) that they shouldn't see color? Why should they take that advice?

So not seeing color is really an ideal state, a dream we have yet to achieve as humans, and until then, we have to be diligent guarding ourselves against our biases.

My current bias is that you have a lot of ideas that are unchecked, untested against reality, and not very coherent. I regret every time I reply to one of these threads because I then feel the desire to slog through your fragile understanding of responses and nigh-incomprehensible text.
I am going to take your reply apart, but for now :

The only distinction that we have in all of us, when we are compared between races is how we feel about things,
Not even about in how we think, because that can change like the weather.
Or it is of course backed up on how we feel.......



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Also, are you going to tell the KKK (for example) that they shouldn't see color? Why should they take that advice?
I just don't get it that you would ask this question, you know it is a weird question, right ? Or is it just to see my reaction......

I spoke of changing Rankin Fitch'es mind , and not a banker's mind for example....All the people at KKK need is love and good jobs and even free education, the country is screaming for crafted people , and all the US now has is ICT people and pencil pushers, everybody want's to be an executive.
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