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Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
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Volunteerism, just like money, can be treated like a commodity.
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The total number of letters in "Volunteerism, just like money, can be treated like a commodity." is 51 and the current rating of Volunteers on IMDB is 5.1 a difference of a factor of 10. 10 which is the number of words in that same statement.
The word "commodity" has 9 letters and the biggest number in this image is 9!
And if you add all the digits in that image you get 57 which if combined with the number of letters in "Volunteerism" gives us the precise time at which you were writing that post 12:57.
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Wow, your first post! Did you know I opted to start the fourteen Gerarai with the number 43? This was before I drew the correlation to Revelation 12 and the 43rd month following the prophecy of the Two Witnesses in Revelation 11. Honest! In fact, if it wasn't for this, in order to reconcile with what I had done, it wouldn't have occurred to me to express it in base fourteen terms. The number 43 still corresponds to Daphne (1) though.
So, is Iacchuu the plural of Iacchus?
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04-24-2012, 11:46 PM
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
Rachel is the Woman Herself – 43
126 Similarly, the numbers 1, 15 and 29 all correspond to Daphne (1), as does the number 43 which, is the woman herself: the woman's mother (4) in accord with the woman's father (3). And, much in the way Daphne (43) was the beloved of Apollo, who was withheld from Apollo's embrace, Rachel was the beloved of Jacob, and withheld from Jacob's embrace, initially at least. Whereby Rachel is also the woman herself and corresponds to the number 43. (Her actual numbers are 14, 28 and 42.)
127 So is it any wonder there were 42 generations between Abraham and the birth of Christ? Matthew 1:1-17 Meaning, we are all born of the 43rd generation or, the generation following Christ. Although I should preface this, and say if you go back and count the number of generations in Matthew, there are only 41 (including Christ). However, since it doesn't specifically say 42, but rather three successive groups of fourteen, where the first two include King David, you have to wonder if it wasn't done deliberately. If so, and this was the writer's intent, it means the generation following Christ is the 42nd.
128 Does that completely nullify the idea then? No, it doesn't. In fact it only strengthens it if you understand what happened. And brings up what I relate in Sybil (4) regarding the New Church in Revelation 12: that appears in the 43rd month, following the 42 months of prophecy by the Two Witnesses in Revelation 11. And so represents Christ's second coming, to which both numbers 12 and 43 apply. While according to Swedenborg, this occurred in the year 1757, at the time of the Last Judgment, roughly in accord with the Age of Enlightenment. He also says the number 42 signifies the end of an era or age and, oddly enough, blasphemy, in accord with Revelation 13 and 17.
129 Thus where the book of Revelation refers to The Reformation as the great red dragon, and the Roman Catholic religion as Babylon the great whore, it makes perfect sense. For neither were the True Church. And so coincides with the notion that this was the 42nd generation and, that all blasphemies (in Revelation) were committed by them. In which case anything that came afterwards is the 43rd generation. Again, in accord with the Swedenborg Church, and roughly the Age of Enlightenment. Also, as I mention in chapter 17, I instinctively began the fourteen Gerarai, starting with Daphne and, the number 43! And had worked with it exclusively (the numbers 43-56), before I drew the correlation to the base fourteen system and its reference to the New Church— of Today (43)—which it clearly alludes to!
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04-25-2012, 12:14 AM
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
When numerology comes to the pseudo-science clubhouse, even magnet therapy and psychic surgery look embarrassed, and astrology stops trying to get the Forer Effect removed from Wikipedia and instead starts talking loudly about how "They will let just ANY fool in this place these days," until numerology leaves to buy a 40 from the 7-11 and have a good cry.
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04-25-2012, 12:19 AM
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04-25-2012, 01:55 AM
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
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Volunteerism, just like money, can be treated like a commodity.
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Was that a good movie? I never heard of it before.
It was probably pretty goofy though.
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04-25-2012, 05:05 AM
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
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04-25-2012, 11:43 AM
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
230 Years
7443 BC (1) + 2300 = 5143 BC (2) + 2300 = 2843 BC (3) + 2300 + 543 BC (4) + 2300 = 1757 AD (5) + 230 =1987 AD (6) + 23 = 2010 AD (7).
It's an interesting pattern at least, suggesting we are in fact living in the 7th era or age. I describe the idea of this a little further in chapter 3.
Oh, since the dawn of modern man is attributed to the development of agriculture in Asia Minor about 10,000 years ago, it roughly coincides with the Age of Adam in 7443 BC (9455 years ago).
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04-25-2012, 01:03 PM
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
From this thread
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Yes, the number 3 signifies everything as to truth which, is the triangle completed at its apex. So, instead of 123, a completed triangle is signified by 312. Then there's the Greek letter delta, which signifies the fourth which, one can only presume portrays the region or area defined within the triangle, because a triangle only has three sides. In that regard the number 4 signifies everything as to good, within context of the triangle, that is. And, where 3 is multiplied by 4, the number 12 signifies everything as to The Church . . . which, happens to appear (the New Church in Revelation 12) in the 43rd month following the 42 months of prophecy by the Two Witnesses in chapter 11. Unless of course no one believes good (4) directly corresponds to the truth (3), and only exists in context thereof (12) . . . sort of in the way evil and falsity go hand-in-hand, where good and truth portray the opposite.
Anyway, the base fourteen system suggests that indeed the 4th aspect corresponds to the number 312 and, that both signify the region within the triangle, as well as the triangle itself . . . 14 x 22 + 4 = 312.
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Okay, this is basically where the whole thing started. I really didn't mean to take over the thread but, since it looked like it had gone as far as it could go (most everyone had gotten in their knocks already), I figured what the heck?
Also, contrary to what one of the resident locals implied, that the thread title was like troll bait designed specifically to attract me, I actually heard about it from someone else. In fact, at the time, this forum was the furthest thing from my mind and I had no intention of posting. I was even irritated (just a little) at the person who brought it to my attention. So, although it was a nice theory, and your typical wimpy response, that's not exactly what happened.
But hey, now that I'm back! . . . although it seems like I couldn't be further away (which is a good thing).
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04-25-2012, 01:06 PM
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Also, in order not to take away from Michael's original post, where he refers to the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet, I added this part here . . . I thought it was pretty cool . . . or rather, very interesting!
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Anyway, the base fourteen system suggests that indeed the 4th aspect corresponds to the number 312 and, that both signify the region within the triangle, as well as the triangle itself . . . 14 x 22 + 4 = 312.
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What, only 22 letters in the Hebrew alphabet? Hmm . . .
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Oh yeah, Gesundheit!
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04-25-2012, 05:30 PM
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
A whole thread inspired by me? I am honored, Iacchus. Let's see adding up the number in the title... Iacchus is that your way of hitting on me? Unfortunately sir I am strictly -sexual, which would preclude me from engaging in any sexual act that can be represeted by a rational number.
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Wow, your first post! Did you know I opted to start the fourteen Gerarai with the number 43? This was before I drew the correlation to Revelation 12 and the 43rd month following the prophecy of the Two Witnesses in Revelation 11. Honest! In fact, if it wasn't for this, in order to reconcile with what I had done, it wouldn't have occurred to me to express it in base fourteen terms. The number 43 still corresponds to Daphne (1) though.
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It is fascinating that you chose the number 43! The digits 4 and 3 are 2/3 of the perfectly proportioned 3-4-5 right triangle!
It can't just be a coincidence that 3+4+5 = 12 which is what sparked my initial post to begin with. It also can't be ignored that there are 5 prime numbers that are less than 12, which is where that 5 that you left off no doubt comes from. I don't think I didn't notice what the symbol for the prime-counting fucntion is.
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So, is Iacchuu the plural of Iacchus?
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No, of course not the plural. The significance is the number 2. There are 2 Us in Iacchuu and U is two places from S in the alpha bet.
Just going to throw this out there, because I think you might understand: 5610
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04-25-2012, 07:30 PM
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
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A whole thread inspired by me? I am honored, Iacchus. Let's see adding up the number in the title... Iacchus is that your way of hitting on me? Unfortunately sir I am strictly -sexual, which would preclude me from engaging in any sexual act that can be represeted by a rational number.
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Wow, your first post! Did you know I opted to start the fourteen Gerarai with the number 43? This was before I drew the correlation to Revelation 12 and the 43rd month following the prophecy of the Two Witnesses in Revelation 11. Honest! In fact, if it wasn't for this, in order to reconcile with what I had done, it wouldn't have occurred to me to express it in base fourteen terms. The number 43 still corresponds to Daphne (1) though.
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It is fascinating that you chose the number 43!
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Hey, check this out!
And, while I could be lion' about it, I don't believe anyone has managed to catch me in a substantial fib so far.
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The digits 4 and 3 are 2/3 of the perfectly proportioned 3-4-5 right triangle!
It can't just be a coincidence that 3+4+5 = 12 which is what sparked my initial post to begin with. It also can't be ignored that there are 5 prime numbers that are less than 12, which is where that 5 that you left off no doubt comes from. I don't think I didn't notice what the symbol for the prime-counting fucntion is.
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I'm not sure what you're talking about (will have to look into it), but here's something interesting about the number 543.
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So, is Iacchuu the plural of Iacchus?
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No, of course not the plural. The significance is the number 2. There are 2 Us in Iacchuu and U is two places from S in the alpha bet.
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Do you mean like the band U2?
This used to be my theme song by the way. Honest!
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Just going to throw this out there, because I think you might understand: 5610
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Do you mean like the U2 theme for Nokia? (quick Google).
Anyway, I gotta' go!
Maybe I'll meet up with Dee Jay out in the woods somewhere?
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04-25-2012, 08:35 PM
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
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It is fascinating that you chose the number 43!
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Hey, check this out!
And, while I could be lion' about it, I don't believe anyone has managed to catch me in a substantial fib so far.
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Or, don't check it out. Since a majority of folks probably won't, I may as well go ahead and post it here:
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Actually, I've always been more impressed with the magic Iacchus works with the numbers, more specifically, and more recently:
See post #43 in this thread. He provided a link to the thread in Freethought.
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Post #43? Holy carp!
I posted this yesterday, before reading this just now, and was unaware I provided the link in post #43. Wow!
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I think some of the members at Freethought are jealous so they just pass it off as being silly. They don't take him seriously because they're not smart enough to figure out the math. They are unable to respond to Iacchus' brilliance.
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Thanks.
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If you click on the link, you will notice it directs you right to this very thread.
While here is the link I posted in post 43.
Anyway, come to find out, some sites (although perhaps a bit obscure) actually do link to this forum!
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04-28-2012, 11:59 AM
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
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I have run, I have crawled . . . I have scaled, these city walls . . . only to be with you.
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
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Hey, look at this! I had to run all the way back to my hotel room to get my camera in order to take the picture!
I noticed it in the Home Depot parking lot after I returned the propane tank I was going to use for camping out. I happened to glance at (directly) as I was driving out of the parking lot, and had to do a double-take, as I said, "Man, I sure wish I had my camera!" But, since I was only a few minutes away, I figured it was worth a shot.
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Yeah, I just relocated to Ontario, Oregon (about 12 miles north of Nyssa), after getting evicted from my mobile home in Tigard, Oregon. I actually went to Grants Pass first, although Nyssa was first on the list, yet this is where I wound up (Ontario instead of Nyssa) anyway.
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06-03-2012, 04:58 AM
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
The numbers on the license plate is in reference to this of course:
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Oh, here is an illustration of the number 33 as the crux on the cross, in accord with the base fourteen system. I'm not sure if I mentioned the relation to the base fourteen system (I should have), but here is a breakdown of the numbers:
14 x 03 = 042 + 1 = 043
14 x 03 = 042 + 2 = 044
14 x 00 = 000 + 3 = 003
14 x 00 = 000 + 4 = 004
14 x 02 = 028 + 5 = 033
14 x 02 = 028 + 6 = 034
14 x 24 = 336 + 7 = 343
Here is the extension beyond the number 7:
14 x 24 = 336 + 08 = 344
14 x 31 = 434 + 09 = 443
14 x 31 = 434 + 10 = 444
14 x 23 = 322 + 11 = 333
14 x 23 = 322 + 12 = 334
14 x 30 = 420 + 13 = 433
14 x 30 = 420 + 14 = 434
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Oh, notice how everything is expressed in either a 3 or a 4? While there's an equal number of 3's as there are 4's, at 17. And yes, where 3 is added to 4, the number 7 signifies what is holy and complete. So yes, naturalist.atheist, in accord with the base fourteen system (again), was correct.
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While I'm amazed at how these numbers worked out, which goes to show how unique the base fourteen system is.
While here is the cross itself:
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O, well that explains it then. :excruciatingeyeroll:
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70 The thing about Nyssa is that it's pronounced like Nysa which, is where Dionysus was from! He was brought up on Mt. Nysa. While it's equally amazing that Zeus was brought up on Mt. Ida! So perhaps it's no coincidence that Nyssa is the thunder egg capitol of the world (volcanic rocks or nodules with wonderful crystals inside), with Zeus the god of thunder, whose only begotten son, Dionysus, hatched from his thigh! There's also the town of Adrian twelve miles south of Nyssa, with its similarity to Ariadne, the wife of Dionysus: ". . . and when the railroad line reached Adrian from Nyssa, it was celebrated at the twelve-mile post." It was also named after Adrian, Illinois, the 21st state, in accord with The Marriage.
71 Although its residents aren't exactly sure how it got its name, a popular account suggests, New York Sheep Shipping Association, due to the railroad's shipment of sheep back east; hence, New York Stock Sales Association. And with sheep being a primary commodity of The Church, it seems a fitting description. New York is also the 11th state, and alludes to the Two Witnesses mentioned earlier, which portray an inherent symmetry (i.e., 3 x 11 = 33).
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Of course if you followed the link (on the picture), you would already understand this.
Nyssa by the way, is where the Oregon Trail enters Oregon from Idaho, hence the correlation (again) to the numbers 33 and 43.
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06-15-2012, 05:29 AM
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
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I also had it in mind to take the Santiam Pass Highway, which runs west out to the Coastal Range from Salem I believe, and maybe spend a few days camping out there, before finally heading to Grants Pass. But by the time I got to the freeway exit, I decided to head straight on to Grant Pass.
I arrived sometime after 7:30 pm, and headed to Riverside Park at the other end of town, where I got out of my car and relaxed for about 45 minutes, watching the river and the ducks, etc. I then got back in and drove for about a half hour looking for potential WiFi hot spots, before I stopped at Taco Bell to get something to eat.
It was about 9:00 pm and starting to get dark when I decided to drive to the Valley of the Rogue State Park, and stay the night at the rest area at exit 46, and slept in the front seat of my car. It seemed like a long night, but I finally got some sleep and woke-up about 6:00 am, feeling fairly refreshed although with a bit of a stiff neck.
About 7:00 am I decided I should at least drive the additional 17-18 miles to Medford, to see if I had any business there, before heading back to Grants Pass. But I only got as far as the Central Point exit which, happened to be exit 33. Remember Oregon, the 33rd state, and Idaho, the 43rd state, whereby Nyssa becomes the "central point" or, "axus mundi" as Joseph Campbell would put it? Needless to say I couldn't resist having a look, and figured I should at least check the gas prices, as the needle was getting pretty low. But, all the prices were at least 10 cents a gallon higher than the prices at Grants Pass, and I said no way and, no longer feeling the need to go to Medford, I got back on the freeway and headed to Grants Pass.
Yet only 10 minutes later I noticed the old Highway 99 route (Rogue River Highway) and, thinking it might be nice to drive along the river, which was more scenic and passed by Caveman Mobile Home Park, where I used to live ( seventh Residence), I couldn't help but notice it was exit 43 which, was the first time I drew the correlation. So yeah, "The central mountain is everywhere!" (as Black Elk describes), which seemed to fulfill the idea that I drive to Nyssa, since these were the only two exits (in accord with the numbers 33 and 43) outside of the main Grants Pass exit and exit 46 I had taken, meaning it was no longer required to make the trip.
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So yeah, although I first headed to Grants Pass, and this (exits 33 and 43) seemed to corroborate the idea that I no longer needed to drive to Nyssa, I still wound up here anyway.
But, like I said here, I didn't feel safe camping out around so many people and, since I didn't feel like I had any place left to go, I figured it was worth a try.
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You seemed intent on going to Grants Pass before going to Ontario (near Nyssa). I'm sure you must have had a legitimate reason to make a stop in Grants Pass. You mentioned Grants Pass seven times in your first post. It doesn't seem like the route you would be taking if you were going directly to Nyssa. Did you want to say goodbye to Roy first? Maybe you wanted to see the infamous Highway 99 once again (Rogue River Highway).
Oregon 99 and Historic U.S. 99
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After I got to Grants Pass, I went to Merlin and drove around for a few hours, then drove out to Selma and Cave Junction, and spent the night in the Kalmiopsis Wilderness area along the Illinois River, about a mile off Highway 199 just west of Cave Junction. But it had got up to 80 degrees outside (too hot), it was too cramped in the car, there was nothing to do, nor did I feel safe with so many people close by, so I began to have second thoughts about camping out in the Grants Pass area. So the next day I drove back to Grants Pass to visit the Josephine County Mental Health folks to see if they could help me decide what to do but, when I got there NOBODY was there, for they had shut the building down. Of course it had been 25 years since I last saw them, although it didn't seem nearly that long but, I was still quite surprised not to find them there. This is when I decided to head back north and determine a way to go east.
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But hey, now that I'm here, I actually like it out here! Now it's just a matter of finding work (10-20 hours a week) over the next month-and-a-half . . . although admittedly, it's not one of my stronger points.
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
Another thing you folks may have overlooked is the relationship between the four directions and the numbers on the cross. (You can discount the Thinking, Feeling, Substantial and Intuitive processes, and Church of Philadelphia, etc., for now.)
And here, the directions North (1) and South (2) portray the Northern and Southern hemispheres, which defines the axis (mundi?) on which the Earth orbits (more or less). And, since the Earth rotates in an easterly direction, from West (3) to East (4), it's signified by the number 34. And, since it always travels East, it's portrayed by the number 4. While the Sun, albeit a very strong illusion, travels across the sky in a westerly direction, from East (4) to West (3), and is signified by the number 43. And, since it always travels West, it's portrayed by the number 3. So, not only does this show the relationship between the numbers 3 and 4, but the numbers 34 and 43 as well.
And yet, in order to establish the four directions, one needs to establish a Central Point or, crux of the matter (5). And, as the sun rises from the East (4), in accord with Idaho or the number 43, any coordinate that is plotted after that (beyond Idaho) occurs in the West (3) and, in order to make it symmetrical and, show the demarcation between East and West, as well as the Central Point, it's appropriately viewed as: 3 (33) 4. Look familiar? Anyway, it suggests the Central Point rests on the border between Oregon (33) and Idaho (43) and, that it rests on the inside of Oregon. And of course Nyssa, Oregon lies directly on the border between Oregon and Idaho.
Oh well, I guess I should add this then:
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67 This was developed on my 34th birthday (January 10th, 1990), and it illustrates the relationship between Oregon and Idaho, the 33rd and 43rd states. Which as you'll see, is exemplified by Nyssa, Oregon. Hence as Swedenborg refers to the order of the tribes of Israel in Revelation 7:1-8, and how they relate to the New Church, I believe something similar is signified by the admission of each state into The Union—which, is the Sixth Church. This is what gave me the idea (The Apocalypse Revealed) and, while I give examples elsewhere, this one symbol corroborates it.
68 I developed it in accord with the cross, and its unique relation to the numbers 3 and 4, what Swedenborg says correspond to The Church (12): 3 signifies everything as to truth and 4 signifies everything as to good which, when multiplied, signifies everything as to The Church (12). And, as Nyssa lies directly on the border, and remains within Oregon, the 33rd state—in accord with the number 5 or, crux of the matter—it's appropriately divided between east and west (why I inserted a 3 at the end of each segment). All of which is signified by the number "3<> 3/3 <>4": i.e., 34 becomes 43 when read from right to left. Also, the first four aspects of the cross correspond to the four directions: "And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth . . ." Revelation 7:1
69 As for Washington, the 42nd state, it's fitting that the number 42 signifies the end of an age—or church—as Swedenborg explains. For we're speaking of the development of something new, and this is what the number 43 signifies. (See Sybil.)
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By the way, did you know that I'm thinking of starting a church? (officially, that is).
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06-17-2012, 02:11 AM
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
And of course, we mustn't forget how the whole thing relates to Kansas, which is the 34th state. Got that Dotty? (Be sure and take a look at post #35 below post #34, otherwise you may not understand what I'm referring to.)
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74 Finally, with respect to my 34th birthday, I drew the parallel to Kansas, the 34th state: the number 34 signifying the cross grounded at its base—or, being grounded in one's wisdom. And it brought to mind the movie, The Wizard of Oz, which was released prior to World War II and I believe directed towards the American subconscious, and the whirlwind of hysteria brought on by the war. In effect it was saying, "Okay America, it's time to wake up and stand up for what you believe." (I heard something to this effect.) And, as it occurred in Kansas, it appealed to the heartland of America.
75 I also thought of Dorothy and her similarity to Vanessa—a woman in fantasy. While the only Dorothy I knew was a friend of the family, who I was considering sending my manuscript to. But, I thought my rationale too flimsy. Soon afterwards though, within a couple of weeks, she wrote to me. A rarity itself! And, as I was intent on writing to her, it was equally rare! And she mentioned the funniest thing, how she grew up in Idaho and enjoyed living there, and how she mailed the letter with a stamp of Idaho! (I speak of her later in chapter 9.) Which prompted me to send the manuscript. And, when she wrote back, a week or so later, the timing couldn't have been more auspicious. It was on the 50th anniversary showing of The Wizard of Oz! (something I found out that day, on February 20th).
76 The timing also concurs with my experience in chapter 12, regarding Medford, Oregon, and being grounded in my wisdom (what this woman signified to me). And I later had a dream, where I was standing on the yellow brick road and peering at a huge fir tree off in the distance, walking towards me! And with each step the ground shook, making an awful crashing noise! (I surmised it had something to do with Roy Masters.)
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Oh, Kansas (34) need not exist directly below Oregon (33) and Idaho (43), since the Central Point (33) has already been defined and, as Black Elk points out, the Central Point/Mountain is everywhere! So, it's just a matter of understanding what Kansas and the number 34 signifies. Leavenworth perhaps? . . . since the foundation of The Church is rooted at the gates of hell.
By the way, the link to the Black Elk thread above is the 34th thread on my forum. I just found that out today.
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06-17-2012, 02:26 AM
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
What a fancy building! That almost looks as fancy as the White House!
Of course when we go to either heaven or hell (it doesn't matter), it's all about leavening the bread and, getting your leavensworth!
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06-18-2012, 10:52 AM
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
From this thread
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Excerpt from Joseph Campbell's, The Power of Myth ...
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Black Elk saw that the hoop of his nation was one of many hoops, which is something that we haven't learned at all well yet ... He says, "I saw myself on the central mountain of the world, the highest place, and I had a vision because I was seeing in the sacred manner of the world." And the sacred central mountain was Harney Peak in South Dakota. And then he says, "But the central mountain is everywhere."
That is a real mythological realization. It distinguishes between the local cult image, Harney Peak, and its connotation as the center of the world. The center of the world is the axis mundi, the central point, the pole around which all revolves. The central point of the world is the point where stillness and movement are together. Movement is time, but stillness is eternity. Realizing how this moment of your life is actually a moment of eternity, and experiencing the eternal aspect of what you're doing in the temporal experience -- this is the mythological experience.
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Yeah, I posted this on my forum way back in 2005, almost 12 years ago. As I said it was the 34th thread. And, although there's no possible way we could be here by accident, per the dictates of scientific determinism, that is, which states everything is comprised of the same initial substance and came from the same place (God's Pee Hole at the moment of the Big Bang ), I am willing to concede it may only be "remotely" related. However, I find it uncanny that it should crop up precisely at the point and, in accord with the means, of my trying to explain the relation to the number 34. So yeah, it may be of a different "set" (albeit still part of the greater set of "all sets"), but I wouldn't be so quick to discount the possibility . . . since the act of Creation, after all, speaks of something which was done willfully and on purpose. Like I said, we are not here by accident.
Anyway, did you notice Joseph Campbell alludes to the axus mundi phenomenon twice as the "central point" above? This is something I was completely unaware of (his specific choice of words), until right before I posted it. And yet as I approached the Central Point exit southbound on Interstate 5 (post #18 above), and noticed it was exit 33, thus alluding to Oregon, the 33rd state, in relation to Idaho, the 43rd state, I said, "Yeah, that's it!" and immediately drew the correlation to Joseph Campbell's relation here. While coining the term "central point" for Nyssa, Oregon. So I had to at least stop here first, before proceeding on to Medford. Mind you I didn't plan it this way! Nor did I plan on taking the old Highway 99 route, before noticing it was exit 43, on the way back. It was an entirely new experience.
Here is a map of the Central Point exit going south (southeast):
Here is a map of the Highway 99 exit going north (Interstate 5 doesn't swing north until after Grants Pass):
Here is a map of Interstate 5 between Medford and Grants Pass:
It's funny that it has Rogue River in the wrong place. It should be between Medford and Grants Pass. That's probably why I couldn't find exit 46, because it comes right before Rogue River (heading west).
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06-18-2012, 08:57 PM
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
Oh, and let's not forget the drafting of the symbol of Nyssa, Oregon (33) and the cross on my 34th birthday which, was clearly corroborated on the 50th anniversary showing (50, meaning Pentecost or, Divine revelation) of the Wizard of Oz (per post #20 above). Unless of course I made the whole thing up? That, would be your only other alternative. So, what do you think, Dotty? (Again, be sure and take a look at post #35 below post #34.)
If indeed it's part of the same "set" of Divine coincidences, otherwise known as synchronicity, as Jung would put it (it's clear to me ), then surely we are honing in on the idea that my 34th thread (Black Elk reference) is also part of the same set. That is, unless we prefer to look at it as another one of those "queer" coincidences? Although I realize some of us can't help ourselves.
Anyway, here is the symbol from the original Dotty reference (post #35). Notice how it's 34's all the way around? Although if you look at it from the center it becomes 43. Hmm . . .
And yet, in order to follow through, in accord with the number 343 (which is 7 x 7 x 7 and signifies the Holy Marriage and corresponds to the color violet), making the number 34 more substantial (at least in this case), we must also incorporate the two 3's on either side which, is the number 33.
Indeed, the Central Point (33) is everywhere!
While here is the original symbol, with the original numbers, where only the number 347 applies, showing "the extension" (34) is to be made at the bottom, in accord with the color violet (7).
That isn't say the numbers 43, 47 and 743 don't also correspond, because they do. And here, the number 743 is (harmonically) equivalent to 43 and both correspond to Daphne (1). And, much as the number 347 suggests the number 34 portrays the extension at the bottom, the number 743 suggests the number 43 portrays the top (of the cross). As for the number 47, that's a whole 'nother ballgame, right Ensign Steve?
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06-20-2012, 10:46 PM
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
Here, if the cross is not properly grounded (in accord with Leavenworth, etc.), it doesn't provide a means of channeling evil, nor a means of channeling the good, because there is no real connection between heaven and earth (where heaven exists above and hell exists below). Instead, at least in the case with Roy Masters and, a select few (the three Davids / 666?), it provides a means of maintaining the stats quo, where only the falsities of the clergy are exalted over everything else and everyone is supposed to maintain. Yet, since these falsities are based more upon a misunderstanding (an honest mistake(s) by Roy?), they aren't nearly so malignant as they don't advance anything, since good doesn't cohere to falsity. (It brings to mind the notion of sterility versus fertility.) In the case with the Nazi's, however, where the ideas of the state were infectious and outright evil, all hell broke loose on earth.
The idea here (the swastika without the numbers) is highlighted in red below:
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86 CHAPTER 13, VERSE 18: "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is six hundred threescore and six." This verse refers to the false prophet and his number, which is 666. Indeed I had a very unusual experience the morning of January 18, 1990. I was lying in bed and had just fallen back asleep, when I was startled and roused awake. A red swastika, within an orange circle, was staring me in the face! And although I didn't sense anything sinister about it, it was bold and remained a few seconds before dissipating.
87 Although equated with the Nazis, the swastika was originally a Greek cross, with four equal sides. At the time I equated it with the Church of Smyrna, the second church or church of false doctrine, and equated it with Roy Masters (discussed in chapters 11, 12 and 13). And so illustrates how the Church of Smyrna is not grounded in its wisdom: as all sides are equal, no side is grounded, yet an extension is to be made, so all receive the same extension, forming a swastika. This is contrasted with the Church of Philadelphia, and the earlier version of the cross and the number 34.
88 The swastika isn't necessarily bad, for to the Greeks it was a good luck symbol. Perhaps it corresponds to a man's will (2), before he's engaged to be married (6), and so alludes to my experience in chapter 12, which occurred shortly after my 34th birthday. But certainly this wasn't the case with the Nazis! ". . . where no one could buy or sell, except he who had the mark of the beast." (Revelation 13:17). I give a more significant example of this verse in chapter 13.
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06-25-2012, 08:10 AM
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Re: Jesus and the numbers 12, 14 and 43
I hate numbers and just luuuuuv algebra.
Science loves numbers and once able they miscount the number of stars. DUH! Like there's BLANCO beyond the stars,a vast area of billions and billions square miles without stars or whatnot, just space.
5 5 57 is my birthday, i'm now 55, and 5+7 =12. Maybe i might hit the jackpot? You know 55 in 2012. "Noh"?
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