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Old 09-16-2015, 05:15 PM
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James McClellan demonstrating the Irving Police Department's Office outstanding capacity for crass stupidity.
We attempted to question the juvenile abut what it was and he would simply only tell us it was a clock. He didn't offer any explanation as to what it was for ...
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That is most likely the Irving PD's meditation on the arbitrary and unknowable nature of time. What he meant was, what is a clock really for if time is a cognitive construct? Is there even time, Ahmed, or does time exist only because we undertake to measure it and bring order to an unknowably chaotic universe? WHAT IS IT ALL FOR?
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Old 09-16-2015, 05:20 PM
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Not everything that confuses you is a "hoax," you hooting apes.


You gotta see the picture of him that Anil Dash tweeted, in his NASA shirt and handcuffs, about halfway down the page.

Hillary Clinton joins social media outcry over Irving teen's arrest for bringing clock to school
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That is most likely the Irving PD's meditation on the arbitrary and unknowable nature of time. What he meant was, what is a clock really for if time is a cognitive construct? Is there even time, Ahmed, or does time exist only because we undertake to measure it and bring order to an unknowably chaotic universe? WHAT IS IT ALL FOR?
So he WAS a terrorist after all! In fact, the most terrifying of all: an existential terrorist. :runsies:
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So he WAS a terrorist after all! In fact, the most terrifying of all: an existential terrorist. :runsies:
Just like Darth Vader!

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Slate has a pretty good article setting out the context for this incident:

Ahmed Mohamed's school: It was afraid of Islam well before it thought a clock was a bomb.
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I just read something that made me think. If they really thought it was a bomb why did they not evacuate the school and call the bomb squad? They sat in an office with it. They didnt think it was a bomb at all
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According to the police statement, they thought it was a "hoax bomb." So it seems clear no one involved really thought anything might explode. I guess they just thought budding young terrorists do practice runs, or something…
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Yeah, they're making a point of saying 'hoax' pretty consistently.

I really liked seeing so little support for that argument this time, though. When there was that rash of incidents in Massachusetts a while back, there were a whole lot of people claiming it was totally reasonable and justified; and I didn't see practically any of that this time.
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What's a hoax bomb? Never even heard of that.
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What's a hoax bomb? Never even heard of that.
I think it's an instrument for keeping time, but I'm not sure exactly what it's for.
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What's a hoax bomb? Never even heard of that.
It's one of those catch-all laws to get people who make fake bombs and threatens to use them or display them as if they were real bombs.
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Massachusetts' definition of a 'hoax device' is far more amusing (being why I remember it probably), but Texas' looks like it does mostly the same thing.

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(13) "Hoax bomb" means a device that:
(A) reasonably appears to be an explosive or incendiary device; or
(B) by its design causes alarm or reaction of any type by an official of a public safety agency or a volunteer agency organized to deal with emergencies.
The second definition is pretty great, though.

It's already been established that any sort of electronic device that is not in a molded plastic case with logos on it is reasonable cause for alarm.
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What's a hoax bomb? Never even heard of that.
It's one of those catch-all laws to get people who make fake bombs and threatens to use them or display them as if they were real bombs.
Is that even a real thing? There are laws about this? WTF? How many times has this happened?
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Ice-T was on The Nightly Show a couple days ago and said he was arrested in Colorado for having a "hoax bomb" in his suitcase in his hotel room. In his case it was an ACTUAL hoax bomb which he bought from a novelty store, but the maid saw it in his hotel room and called security and they evacuated five floors of the hotel for it. He said they recognized him so despite having "arrested" him he was required to show up at the station the next day, so he just fled the state instead.
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Y'all, Norwegians Use The Word "Texas" As Slang To Mean "Crazy" - Texas Monthly

So it apparently is just a reference to the 'wild west' and it means chaotic, but you know what? I never signed anything agreeing to Norwegian slang conventions. I do whatever I want.
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So this talk radio program I listen to on SiriusXM alerted me to this New York Times opinion piece.

NYT excerpt... the Texas textbooks employ all the principles of good, strong, clear writing when talking about the "upside" of slavery. But when writing about the brutality of slavery, the writers use all the tricks of obfuscation. You can see all this at play in the following passage from a textbook, published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, called Texas United States History:

Some slaves reported that their masters treated them kindly. To protect their investment, some slaveholders provided adequate food and clothing for their slaves. However, severe treatment was very common. Whippings, brandings, and even worse torture were all part of American slavery.

Notice how in the first two sentences, the "slavery wasn't that bad" sentences, the main subject of each clause is a person: slaves, masters, slaveholders ... They are treating their slaves kindly; they are providing adequate food and clothing. But after those two sentences there is a change, not just in the writers' outlook on slavery but also in their sentence construction. There are no people in the last two sentences, only nouns. Yes, there is severe treatment, whippings, brandings and torture ... But where are the slave owners who were actually doing the whipping and branding and torturing? And where are the slaves who were whipped, branded and tortured?


The grammarian argument for morality. Does the writer have a point? Or is she just looking for new ways to call Texas horrible? (They really don't need her help.)
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She definitely has a point. The use of 'passive voice'* is something that any professional writer is acutely aware of. That was not accidental, especially in something like a textbook.

* Which is often incorrectly defined, including by Strunk & White, to mean, basically, writing in a roundabout way to deflect culpability. So actual passive voice PLUS other constructs that remove the actor from the action.
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There's a point there, but on my first reading (about 0.2 seconds) I got the opposite feeling: the first two sentences water down the positives with qualifiers - "Some slaves reported that ..." In the sentences on the negatives, it's not "some" it's "very common" - stronger. But definitely they are removed from the actual people involved. Like yes it was really bad, but we're not blaming anyone. I dunno.
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So it apparently is just a reference to the 'wild west' and it means chaotic, but you know what? I never signed anything agreeing to Norwegian slang conventions. I do whatever I want.

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That's because you live "out in Nevada", as Finns would say about the back of beyond.
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So Out In, Nevada is the Finnish version of Bumfuck, Egypt? Good to know!
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And here's the rest of the world thinking Finland was that.
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