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:lol: That adorable logarithmic scale* on one of peacegirl's dumbass measles graphs inspired a lot of my deathbelt graphs.

*Suddenly, peacegirl googles logarithmic scale and copies and pastes the first result.
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Just the Vax: 75 studies that show no link between vaccines and autism UPDATED to 107
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30 SCIENTIFIC STUDIES THAT DEMONSTRATE VAXES CAN CAUSE AUTISM

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*looks at link*
-Multiple citations aren't about vaccines at all but autism and never mention vaccines.
-Many are about Thimerosal but none seem to point out that autism has continued to increase as thimerosal has been removed from vaccines. Odd that.
-More than one weren't studies at all but articles musing on theoretical causes of autism.

I stopped reading after that, but I assume I got farther than PeaceGirl.
Who if I challenged to pick one study from that link she feels is extremely supportive of the connection between vaccines and autism she couldn't do it.
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*looks at link*
-Multiple citations aren't about vaccines at all but autism and never mention vaccines.
-Many are about Thimerosal but none seem to point out that autism has continued to increase as thimerosal has been removed from vaccines. Odd that.
-More than one weren't studies at all but articles musing on theoretical causes of autism.

I stopped reading after that, but I assume I got farther than PeaceGirl.
Who if I challenged to pick one study from that link she feels is extremely supportive of the connection between vaccines and autism she couldn't do it.
For starters, you mention that thimerosal has been removed from vaccines. Um, no... The Hep B vaccine on the first day of a child's life contains thimerosal.

Hepatitis B Vaccine Triples the Risk of Autism in Infant Boys
October 08, 2009


A new study has shown that giving Hepatitis B vaccine to newborn baby boys more than triples their risk of developing an autism spectrum disorder.

The study’s authors used U.S. probability samples obtained from National Health Interview Survey (NHIS) 1997–2002 datasets.

The conclusion states that: “Findings suggest that U.S. male neonates vaccinated with hepatitis B vaccine had a 3-fold greater risk of ASD.”

The authors also noted that an earlier study by them found that hepatitis B vaccination was associated with receipt of early intervention and special education services.

The new study used a different database than their earlier study, and they found same results, suggesting a validation of their findings.

Dr. Mercola's Comments:
Routine use of the hepatitis B vaccine for all newborns began in 1992, despite the fact that there was absolutely NO logical argument for it. It should never have been included in the immunization schedule, and here’s why.

Do Newborns Really NEED the Hepatitis B Vaccine?

Folks, hepatitis B is about as difficult to catch as AIDS. Namely, you nearly always need to have blood or sexual contact of some sort.

That is why the main risk factors are IV drug abusers and those who engage in sex with multiple partners.

In addition, vaccine-derived immunity is thought to be short lived. Up to 60 percent of persons who initially respond will lose detectable antibodies within 12 years. So that means that these vaccines will provide little to no protection to the real risks of acquiring hepatitis B, namely promiscuous sexual behavior and IV drug abuse.

The Vaccine Harms FAR More Children Than it Helps

The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) was developed by the government to report vaccine reactions. Many experts believe that only 10 percent of the adverse reactions are reported though, as reporting is not mandated by law. (Some surveys puts this number closer to ONE percent.)

Even with only 10 percent of the problems being reported, there were nearly 25,000 VAERS hepatitis B reports from July 1990 to October 31, 1998 (prior to adding the Hep B vaccine to the immunization schedule), showing 439 deaths and 9,673 serious reactions involving emergency room visits, hospitalization, disablement, or death.

Now, hepatitis B is a rare, mainly blood-transmitted disease. In 1996 only 54 cases of the disease were reported to the CDC in the 0-1 age group. There were 3.9 million births that year, so the observed incidence of hepatitis B in the 0-1 age group was just 0.001 percent.

Meanwhile, in that same year VAERS received 1,080 total reports of adverse reactions from hepatitis B vaccine in the 0-1 age group, including 47 deaths!

Put in simpler terms: for every child that contracted hepatitis B there were 20 immunized babies that were reported to have severe complications. Let us also remember that only 10 percent of the reactions are ever reported, which means traditional medicine is harming about 200 children to protect one from hepatitis B!

It is simply inexcusable…

cont. at: https://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...fant-boys.aspx
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So I'm curious why as fewer and fewer vaccines contain Thimerosal has autism increased?
Could Thimerosal protect children from autism?

About that study,
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"The autism group had 33 kids total. Of these, 9 of 31 (29%) were given the HepB vaccine. Compare this to 1,258 of 7,455 (17%) of the non-autism group who were given the HepB.

9 out of 31.

Are the red flags up yet? They should be.

Take for example kids aged 17 in the 1997 survey. When were they born? That’s right, 1980.

When was the Hepatitis B vaccine introduced? 1991.
According to Mr. Kirby himself, the HepB vaccine didn’t get fully implemented until about 1996.

A lot of the kids were born before the “epidemic” of autism. No one disputes that the number of people identified with autism has gone up significantly in the last 30 years. "
Another weak study “proves” vaccines cause autism | Left Brain Right Brain
So the data that says there's a 3 times increase in neonatal autism used a tiny (as admitted by peacegirl) autistic sample size and may have included children before vaccination was required.
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Thimerosal exposure in infants and developmental disorders: a retrospective cohort study in the United kingdom does not support a causal association.

Addressing the controversy regarding the association between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism

Thimerosal exposure in infants and developmental disorders: a prospective cohort study in the United kingdom does not support a causal association.
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chunksmediocrites kicked the everloving shit out of that nonsense quite literally years ago in this very thread, you silly cow. Why do you keep posting that swill? Is it your dishonesty - you are, after all, an admitted liar - or your dementia?
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So I'm curious why as fewer and fewer vaccines contain Thimerosal has autism increased?
Could Thimerosal protect children from autism?

About that study,
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"The autism group had 33 kids total. Of these, 9 of 31 (29%) were given the HepB vaccine. Compare this to 1,258 of 7,455 (17%) of the non-autism group who were given the HepB.

9 out of 31.

Are the red flags up yet? They should be.

Take for example kids aged 17 in the 1997 survey. When were they born? That’s right, 1980.

When was the Hepatitis B vaccine introduced? 1991.
According to Mr. Kirby himself, the HepB vaccine didn’t get fully implemented until about 1996.

A lot of the kids were born before the “epidemic” of autism. No one disputes that the number of people identified with autism has gone up significantly in the last 30 years. "
Another weak study “proves” vaccines cause autism | Left Brain Right Brain
So the data that says there's a 3 times increase in neonatal autism used a tiny (as admitted by peacegirl) autistic sample size and may have included children before vaccination was required.
The only way to get real data is to compare vaccinated children with nonvaccinated children, otherwise there will always be confounding factors that may skew the results. This could occur with a few samples or thousands of samples. The variables would be too broad to isolate them all. That would give vaxxers a perfect excuse to say, "See, we told you that there is no causation or correlation with vaccines. Big fail! :sadcheer:
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The Fallacy of Thimerosal Removal & Autism Increase: A Failure of Science, A Bigger Failure to Children Worldwide
System failure By Jake Crosby


Readers of Age of Autism are aware of the term “the big hungry lie” coined by regular contributor J.B. Handley, used to describe the tactics of the CDC and the drug industry’s attempts to disassociate autism from vaccines in any way, shape, or form.

Perhaps the biggest lie of all is the one that has been repeated all too long, that after thimerosal was reduced or eliminated from vaccines, autism rates continued to go up. There have been multiple instances of this claim and each time it has been proven false, right up to the recent lie that after thimerosal was removed from vaccines in 2001, autism rates continue to increase. These two claims, the first that thimerosal was removed from vaccines, and the second that autism rates have not gone down as a result, continue to be used to justify the injection of thimerosal into pregnant women and children with flu shots. The claims have also been used to justify the immunization of children in developing countries with vaccines preserved with thimerosal. Sadly, neither claim is any more truthful than previous equally erroneous claims, the earliest of which originated from Scandinavia, then spread to Canada and most recently came out of California.

Cold-Blooded Lies

The paper by Stehr-Green et al., for example, purported to study autism rates in Sweden after thimerosal removal in 1993, but only hospitalizations in relation to autism were analyzed. Anyone remotely familiar with autism knows that it is not the kind of condition for which one would typically go to a hospital for treatment.

In the same study were also analyses of autism rates in Denmark, which were even more flawed.

cont. at: The Fallacy of Thimerosal Removal & Autism Increase: A Failure of Science, A Bigger Failure to Children Worldwide - AGE OF AUTISM

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https://www.facebook.com/notes/lisa-...0278904786311/
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chunksmediocrites kicked the everloving shit out of that nonsense quite literally years ago in this very thread, you silly cow. Why do you keep posting that swill? Is it your dishonesty - you are, after all, an admitted liar - or your dementia?
Andrew Wakefield will one day be lauded for his perserverence in helping children with autism.

Autism Media Channel

Two landmark events – a government concession in the US Vaccine Court, and a groundbreaking scientific paper – confirm that physician, scientist, and Autism Media Channel [AMC] Director, Dr. Andrew Wakefield, and the parents were right all along.

In a recently published December 13, 2012 vaccine court ruling, hundreds of thousands of dollars were awarded to Ryan Mojabi, whose parents described how “MMR vaccinations,” caused a “severe and debilitating injury to his brain, diagnosed as Autism Spectrum Disorder (‘ASD’).”

Later the same month, the government suffered a second major defeat when young Emily Moller from Houston won compensation following vaccine-related brain injury that, once again, involved MMR and resulted in autism. The cases follow similar successful petitions in the Italian and US courts (including Hannah Poling [ii], Bailey Banks [iii], Misty Hyatt [iv], Kienan Freeman [v], Valentino Bocca [vi], and Julia Grimes [vii]) in which the governments conceded or the court ruled that vaccines had caused brain injury. In turn, this injury led to an ASD diagnosis. MMR vaccine was the common denominator in these cases.

And today, scientists and physicians from Wake Forest University, New York, and Venezuela, reported findings that not only confirm the presence of intestinal disease in children with autism and intestinal symptoms, but also indicate that this disease may be novel. [viii] Using sophisticated laboratory methods Dr. Steve Walker and his colleagues endorsed Wakefield’s original findings by showing molecular changes in the children’s intestinal tissues that were highly distinctive and clearly abnormal.


cont. at: New Published Study Verifies Andrew Wakefield’s Research on Autism – Again

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Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines and Autism: A Review of Recent Epidemiologic Studies
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Epidemiologic studies continue to provide evidence that there is no association between thimerosal exposure and autism.

Association between thimerosal-containing vaccine and autism.
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CONCLUSION:
The results do not support a causal relationship between childhood vaccination with thimerosal-containing vaccines and development of autistic-spectrum disorders.

Thimerosal and the occurrence of autism: negative ecological evidence from Danish population-based data.
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The discontinuation of thimerosal-containing vaccines in Denmark in 1992 was followed by an increase in the incidence of autism. Our ecological data do not support a correlation between thimerosal-containing vaccines and the incidence of autism.
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The only way to get real data is to compare vaccinated children with nonvaccinated children, otherwise there will always be confounding factors that may skew the results. This could occur with a few samples or thousands of samples. The variables would be too broad to isolate them all.
peacegirl, you're just making shit up.
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[quote=But;1306241]Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines and Autism: A Review of Recent Epidemiologic Studies
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Epidemiologic studies continue to provide evidence that there is no association between thimerosal exposure and autism.

Association between thimerosal-containing vaccine and autism.
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The results do not support a causal relationship between childhood vaccination with thimerosal-containing vaccines and development of autistic-spectrum disorders.
Thimerosal: A Missing Link in Denmark MMR-Autism Study (11/7/02)

Today, the New England Journal of Medicine has published an article which
refutes a link between MMR and autism using epidemiology. This study was
released last week to the major media by the CDC, its major funder along
with NAAR. Since then, the CDC PR machine has been working very hard to spin
the conclusions their own way. Obviously, they want to put an end to any
more discussions and research on vaccines and autism.

However, while the study methodology appears to be good, and there is much
to learn from the informative findings, there are some significant
shortcomings in the conclusions drawn and the study results raise more
questions than they answer and underscore the importance for more research.

For example, one of the most concerning omissions of the study was their
failure to consider the absence of Thimerosal in the other infant vaccines
the children of the Danish study received prior to getting their MMR
vaccine.

Although she did not include it in her article, the reporter from the Dallas
Morning News who interviewed me (article below) was able to confirm that the
mercury based preservative under so much legal fire for triggering autism
was removed from vaccines on the market in Denmark prior to the birthdates
of the children studied. American children on the other hand, have
potential cumulative mercury exposures at sometimes neurotoxic levels from
prenatal exposures including maternal vaccination and immune globulin
preparations, environmental pollution and infant vaccinations which create a
significantly different set of circumstances when the MMR vaccine, which
does not contain mercury, is administered.

We feel very strongly that it is erroneous for the study's authors to
conclude that since the children in the Danish study did not show an
increased incidence of autism after MMR vaccine that the same would hold
true for all children. They have not satisfied the question of the MMR
vaccine's potential role as a trigger amidst other environmental factors
including previously administered mercury containing vaccines that have been
given to children outside of their population. It is entirely possible, but
not yet studied by the CDC, that a child's immune response, inhibited by the
elevated mercury levels from thimerosal-containing vaccinations, has less
ability to respond to the measles virus in the MMR vaccine. This might be
an explanation for the presence of measles virus cultured from the brains
and guts of 80 percent of autistic children. However, we are grateful for
their epidemiological research and hopeful that it will spur the absent and
yet much needed biological mechanism research here in the United States.

cont. at: http://vaccineinfo.net/immunization/...ismStudy.shtml
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Lack of association between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism
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Thimerosal and Autism?
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On the basis of current evidence, we consider it improbable that thimerosal and autism are linked.

Thimerosal-containing vaccines and autistic spectrum disorder: a critical review of published original data.
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Studies do not demonstrate a link between thimerosal-containing vaccines and ASD, and the pharmacokinetics of ethylmercury make such an association less likely. Epidemiologic studies that support a link demonstrated significant design flaws that invalidate their conclusions. Evidence does not support a change in the standard of practice with regard to administration of thimerosal-containing vaccines in areas of the world where they are used.
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Our study revealed no evidence of an association between TCVs and autism.

Thimerosal and Autism?
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On the basis of current evidence, we consider it improbable that thimerosal and autism are linked.

Thimerosal-containing vaccines and autistic spectrum disorder: a critical review of published original data.
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CONCLUSIONS:

Studies do not demonstrate a link between thimerosal-containing vaccines and ASD, and the pharmacokinetics of ethylmercury make such an association less likely. Epidemiologic studies that support a link demonstrated significant design flaws that invalidate their conclusions. Evidence does not support a change in the standard of practice with regard to administration of thimerosal-containing vaccines in areas of the world where they are used.
Dr. Oz Show: Thimerosal in Flu Shots – What He Got Wrong & What You NEED to Know!

On September 11, 2014, Dr. Oz’s guests included Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Dr. Mark Hyman and the topic of discussion was thimerosal in flu vaccines. It is great to see Dr. Oz expressing concerns about thimerosal, which is 49.5% mercury and is a potent neuro-immune toxin.

<snip>

Contrary to the assertions of Oz, Hyman, and Kennedy, thimerosal has not been removed from childhood vaccinations; it’s still there. The FDA changed the rules so vaccine manufacturers do not have to include thimerosal on the label as an ingredient unless it is used as a preservative. According to the FDA, if thimerosal is used in the manufacturing process but it is not used as a preservative, the vaccine can be labeled “thimerosal-free” when that is not the case. You can read more about this semantic trickery and what it really means for your child here. The point is, several vaccines given to infants and children still contain thimerosal, including the DTaP vaccine, DT vaccine, Hib (ACTHib, TriHIBit) and Meningococcal vaccine. Click this link and scroll down in the vaccine excipients list until you get to thimerosal. (On your way to “thimerosal,” you might want to also notice all the other toxic ingredients and the vaccines that contain them.)

2. In addition to the problems with the FDA rule change, which allows vaccine-manufacturers to lie about the fact that their vaccines still contain thimerosal, Dr. Oz and his guests missed the fact that the meningococcal vaccine given to children age two years and older contains the same amount of thimerosal (50 mcg.) as the multi-dose flu shots they are so concerned about. Click this link and go to section 11, on page 17 of the Menomune manufacturer’s insert.

cont. at: VaxTruth.org | Dr. Oz Show: Thimerosal in Flu Shots – What He Got Wrong & What You NEED to Know!

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When science is not enough - a risk/benefit profile of thiomersal-containing vaccines.
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This paper reviews and summarises the data available from published studies on mercury toxicity, and thiomersal in vaccines in particular, that overwhelmingly indicate continued use of thiomersal is safe in those countries where it is most needed.

Mercury concentrations and metabolism in infants receiving vaccines containing thiomersal: a descriptive study.
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Administration of vaccines containing thiomersal does not seem to raise blood concentrations of mercury above safe values in infants. Ethylmercury seems to be eliminated from blood rapidly via the stools after parenteral administration of thiomersal in vaccines.

[Thiomersal and immunisations].
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Vaccines Do Not Cause Autism
Posted on August 10, 2011 by Megan
By: Marcella Piper-Terry, M.S., Founder of VaxTruth.Org
Okay. I give up.
Vaccines do not cause autism.


Autism is a behavioral diagnosis. In order to receive the diagnosis of “Autism” a child must exhibit a certain number of behaviors over a certain time frame. If he or she does not do so, the diagnosis of “autism” is not warranted.

There is no blood test for “autism.”

“Autism” can’t be confirmed or “ruled-out” by laboratory analysis. It’s strictly a behavioral diagnosis.

Therefore, anything that causes physiological damage cannot directly “cause” autism.

Ergo… vaccines cannot “cause” “autism.”

Vaccines cause other stuff.

Vaccines cause encephalitis.
Vaccines cause seizures.
Vaccines cause immune system deficiencies.
Vaccines cause gastrointestinal problems.

cont. at: VaxTruth.org | Vaccines Do Not Cause Autism
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Okay. I give up.
Vaccines do not cause autism.
Good.

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Dr. Oz Show:
There's something funny about a fake shill doctor attacking other fake shill doctors for not following their shill. Sorry anti-vaxers, Dr Oz found a more profitable shill than you.
So funny I forgot to laugh. :yawn:
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Large amounts of dihydrogen monoxide found in brains of vaccinated children, study finds
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No one seems to be talking about the real elephant in the room, which is the widespread use of 16O, a known carcinogen that can cause blindness and convulsions at higher concentrations. Countless people have died in fires and explosions caused by 16O. No placebo-controlled double-blind study has ever been done on the toxic effects of inhaling this hazardous substance because of the corrupting influence of Big Oxygen.
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No one seems to be talking about the real elephant in the room, which is the widespread use of 16O, a known carcinogen that can cause blindness and convulsions at higher concentrations. Countless people have died in fires and explosions caused by 16O. No placebo-controlled double-blind study has ever been done on the toxic effects of inhaling this hazardous substance because of the corrupting influence of Big Oxygen.
So dumb. Life giving elements such as water and oxygen are needed for our very existence. Metals such as thimerosal and aluminum are not. There are no safe levels.

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There are also no safe levels of oxygen! It causes cancer. I'm not making this up!
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