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And this DUP that the Conservatives are colluding with, what are they like?

'Like 10 Donald Trumps' - your 10-tweet guide to the DUP | The Poke

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The broken Tories are now dependent on an anti-gay, anti-women's rights party linked to Northern Irish extremists. Just sickening.
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To be fair Theresa May warned of coalition of chaos propped up by extremist terrorist sympathisers. She just didn't say she'd be leading it.
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Old 06-09-2017, 06:37 PM
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But we are basically the passengers on the Titanic giggling at captain crashing into iceberg.
America, "Wanna trade icebergs?"
UK, "Why is yours glowing... and is that a kaiju trapped inside? Um no thanks, we're good."
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Turnout was also much higher, particularly amongst the 18-24 demographic. Some of the stats are over 70%, which is astonishing.
Turnout changes rather than swings may account for a lot of strangeness. For example, while turnout was up overall, according to the final graphic here turnout was well down across most of Scotland. I'm guessing a bunch of SNP voters from last time just stayed away.
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Well, that makes more sense than that they changed their minds.

I saw a graph on the BBC (that doesn't link to well or download well) comparing districts in terms of numbers. London has more voters than all of Northern Ireland. Yet the DUP (which btw is an opposition party in Northern Ireland) gets to control all of the UK together with the Tories.
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Old 06-10-2017, 12:38 AM
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How does a alliance with the DUP even square with the non interference nature of the Good Friday Agreement?
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It probably doesn't. People have been pointing this out. How much this matters depends a lot on Irish opinion I suspect.
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Oh look:

Election 2017: Key Theresa May aide resigns - BBC News

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And while I was reopening this thread to post that:

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Theresa May's joint chief of staff Fiona Hill has also resigned, a Tory spokesman said.
These are the two twits who ran the election campaign, including producing a manifesto they didn't discuss with the rest of the party.

This is good ... for the Tories. If it takes the pressure off them replacing Theresa Mayhem, not so good. Although replacing her is only good if they can nominate someone better. Ie not Boris Johnson.
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We do have a few spare ones. They can have them all if it helps.
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Hmmmm... I notice that this doesn't say that the Conservatives will vote in favor.

Are the DUP bought off by meaningless gestures like holding a vote that will fail?
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Five things you need to know about DUP politicians and science | New Scientist
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That article doesn't give the details on the "green energy" policy. It was about as un-green as it's possible to be. Farmers and others who had the land and buildings to do it were subsidised for heating buildings by burning wood chips - the subsidies were greater than the cost of purchasing the fuel and there was no cap on the amount of subsidy that could be claimed. This meant that farmers could (and did) earn hundreds of thousands of pounds by heating up empty barns and similar that didn't require heating and housed no livestock, produce, or equipment that would benefit in any way by being kept hot. The nationalists named it the "cash for ash scandal" and officially that's the reason that devolved political administration has been suspended in Northern Ireland for the past few months. The reality is that the Nationalists also wanted the Stormont assembly shut down for other reasons, but the green energy scandal was a good excuse.

Officially, an investigation is still going on to determine who was responsible for the corruption, but everyone already knows and knows that no member of the DUP will ever be bought to book for the corruption - and more especially so now that the DUP is the tail that wags the British Government dog.

Northern Ireland is about to get some superb new roads and hospitals paid for by British taxpayers - austerity be damned. So I suppose at least some people will benefit from the election fiasco, but it would be nice to see the money being spread around more fairly to communities that need it most rather than directed at those who by chance happen to live in areas whose politicians hold the balance of power resulting from May's hubris and incompetence.
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Hmmmm... I notice that this doesn't say that the Conservatives will vote in favor.

Are the DUP bought off by meaningless gestures like holding a vote that will fail?
If it's held as a free vote my guess is it would fail, and then too might the government if the DUP just shrugs and withdraws their support of the Tories. (Hey, you cunts said- Well fuck you then!) And back to the polls for another election.

With the devolved powers in NI, though, I'm not seeing a likelihood that the DUP would try to impose their will on the rest of the UK, despite being into that whole creationism in schools, no marriage equality thing.
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Sinn Fein must be loving this. They're on the right side for once: how can the UK government be a neutral arbiter when the DUP has a confidence and supply arrangement with the unionists? This seems like it's violates the Good Friday agreement and Sinn Fein are going to make hay.
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So there's this:

Unlikely as it may seem, the DUP has been planning for this day - The i newspaper online iNews

(This news rag seems legit.)

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There we are: Ireland’s prime minister warns Theresa May over deal with DUP

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If? It is in very, very poor hands...
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Theresa May's grip on power loosens as her bid to strike a deal with the DUP descends into farce | The Independent
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Everyone should read what JK Rowling has to say about Theresa May | indy100
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Petition against coalition with DUP has 700,000 signatures already
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