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Old 11-17-2017, 11:36 PM
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Thread about that Al Franken photo, lots of replies, I lack the technical skills to follow or verify. Very interesting.

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Old 11-18-2017, 01:33 AM
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I'm certainly willing to wait for more evidence one way or the other.

Al Franken might have to go, but the idea that he needed to resign immediately, that very day, I don't agree with for many cases (that would vary depending on how many accusers, how much evidence, seriousness of the violations, etc.). And I'd say the same for Republicans. But absent any good exculpatory evidence (such as contradictory witnesses) coming out, I'm not sure he should be staying on til 2020, particularly since it wouldn't even likely be giving up a seat.

I will note that Franken has not admitted to the kiss nor did he concede that he was groping her in that picture. I can see why, if he thinks that's not true or that she's lying, he wouldn't want to outright deny it in the environment we have (in particular, not wanting to give ammunition to others, like Roy Moore and Trump) before having proof.

That said, I'm skeptical that such proof will be forthcoming. While he can probably stick it out if no more allegations come, particularly given that Tweeden has accepted his apology and isn't calling for him to resign, but I'm not sure he should. There are men on both sides who are wary for personal reasons of establishing such a standard, which is probably why no Senate Republicans have called for his resignation either.

What would be nice is if there were more Republican women who would be willing to hold their colleagues accountable. A bipartisan push by the women of Congress to purge the sexual harassers would be the most effective way to deal with it. Unfortunately, quite a few of the GOP women are as crazy partisan as the men and won't go after their men even if Democratic women are teaming up with them.

(And to be honest, the gender ratios in the caucuses along with the GOP majorities make it probably inevitable that such a push would damage the GOP more than the Democrats even if we assume such behavior is equally prevalent among men in both parties. There are just more GOP men than Democratic men in Congress.)
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The date/time stuff can be tricky. My DSLR camera (not professional grade) is not updated based on my timezone, unless I update it manually. That can mean that a photo at 5PM might not have actually been taken at 5PM. If the camera It's more likely that the date is correct or 1 day off (due to timezone issues).

At a glance, the professional grade Nikon cameras do not look like they have a GPS feature which might make date/time settings automatically correct. It may have WiFi, so maybe it can auto set the date/time if connected to a network.

So, more than likely, the pictures's date is more or less correct, and the time may be correct.

The modified time is less certain, because some of that is OS/editing program dependent. I don't have all the info but it might just be when the photographer decided to collect all the photos and burn them to a disk. It's probable that photos of Franken's USO tour were archived as a result of his election. Those photos instantly become more historic, for a number of reasons.

I suppose there could be a more nefarious plan, but I'm not willing to believe a single inappropriate photo was intentionally held on to until it could be revealed at the most damaging time. I suspect it's more likely that Tweeden remembered some inappropriate behavior from Al Franken, and went looking for proof.
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Roy Moore has bounced back a bit in the polls, and while it's still quite close (and some of the polls have wonky demographics, like >50% over 65 y/o), the polls favor him again.

Meanwhile, Roy Moore contributed to a legal course arguing that women shouldn't run for office, Christians should never vote for a woman and the feminist problem started with the suffragettes, so I guess women shouldn't vote either. We might be seeing John Conyers and Al Franken resign, while Republicans seat and welcome the vote of a pedophile who assaults girls and thinks they don't deserve any political rights.

Roy Moore co-authored course saying women shouldn't run for office

I wish a reporter would ask Alabama Governor Kay Ivey her thoughts on this on camera.
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Because 2017:

Last night Roy Moore had an event where this pastor sang... and during the same event, Roy Moore blamed his accusations on an alliance of homosexuals and socialists.

Meanwhile... that same pastor was convicted of trying to destroy evidence to cover up the fact that his son was a child molester who preyed on children in their Honduran orphanage. Pastor Who Sang For Roy Moore Has Federal Conviction For Blocking 2012 Child Molestation Probe Of His Son - Joe.My.God.

OH, and in case you didn't read the whole article...

That law course Roy Moore contributed to? That was done for an evangelical organization called Vision Forum, which was run by a man named Doug Phillips. Doug Phillips had to resign his position because he had conducted a long extramarital affair. One that the woman alleges began when she was 15 and was abusive in nature. This reminds me of a certain someone!

Coincidentally, Doug Phillips is also a great friend of the Duggars. Another family which covered up the sexual abuse of children by their son.

We like to mock the Catholic Church over the child abuse scandal, but I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out there's a higher percentage of sick fucks among these ultra-right-wing evangelical Christian shitheads. The decentralization might actually make it harder to uncover though.
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Interest piece: this is one of Meullers prosecutors.

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"lol j/k about expelling Roy Moore from the Senate after he's elected."
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So basically they'll vote on whether rape is still illegal?
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Looks like it's going to be happy-trails-and-fare-thee-well for Al Franken come tomorrow.
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La Resistance. It's like the French resistance but with Ptain joining in...
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Doug Jones wins the senate election. Being a child molester is too much, even in Alabama.
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La Resistance. It's like the French resistance but with Ptain joining in...
Whining about how other people are mean to you because they point out your both-sides idiocy... so you compare them to Nazi collaborators. (Meanwhile, who's constantly defending Assad and Putin? Not me :chin:)

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lol, I wonder if Roy Moore feels silly now, prancing around on a fucking horse this morning. What a buffoon.
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lol, I wonder if Roy Moore feels silly now, prancing around on a fucking horse this morning. What a buffoon.
Speaking of buffoons, watch this guy's face fall when he finds out that a Christian bible isn't required to swear in as an elected official.

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African Americans, and especially African American women, are trying to save this country from the stupidity of our inexhaustible white ignorance. It's time to center the concerns of non-white communities in the Democratic Party and not just ask them to vote, time and again, without those things being addressed.

As I've also said repeatedly, fuck the white working class. Fuck them. . . . Democrats keep wanting to pretend that racist fucknuts can be appealed to based on class. It's a comforting lie that is proven to be bullshit time and again. Roy Moore got 68% of the white vote, and that motherfucker was a wretched candidate before it was revealed he finger-fucked a 14 year-old. This country doesn't belong exclusively to white people anymore. The Republicans are fighting a desperate battle to try to maintain that white dominance. They will lose.

So no more fucking speeches about how we "understand" the pain of the white working class. It's up to the the white working class to fucking get that Democrats are the only ones who give a shit about their pain and economic hardship. And no more fucking articles about dumb fucks who are clinging to Donald Trump. They are dumb fucks. Let them drown in their stupidity for a few minutes before we throw them the life preserver.
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