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Old 10-11-2011, 02:39 AM
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And probably Bruiser too, because that dog is awesome.
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Old 10-11-2011, 04:09 AM
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PAUL RYAN: I think this divisive rhetoric is fairly — is divisive.

Objectivist A is A nonsense or did he really JUST FIGURE SOMETHING OUT? :D

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Old 10-11-2011, 05:12 AM
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There is a mens rea (which means - get ready for it - guilty mind) element to it.
Irrelevant without the action presenting the determination.
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:44 PM
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Could it be that criminal liability involves multiple components or "elements," so to speak? :faint:

No, of course not. That would be inconceivable.
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Old 10-11-2011, 01:29 PM
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Dammit, I just realized that gay-bashing and mosque-defacing don't involve bashing or defacing. I've been overlooking the fact that mens rea is primarily relevant in the assessment of actions!

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There is a mens rea (which means - get ready for it - guilty mind) element to it.
Irrelevant without the action presenting the determination.
So when there is an action (this "presenting the determination" nonsense is some shit you've made up) it's ok for the state to punish people for having the wrong thoughts?
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Old 10-11-2011, 03:48 PM
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It is the action being punished.
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It is the action being punished.
Well that's demonstrably false. If that were true, a malicious killer who runs down someone with his car would face exactly the same punishment as the careful driver who cannot swerve to avoid a darting jaywalker. Is that the way things should be? Or should the state punish people for the content of their thoughts?

Maturin said the fucking answer upthread.
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Old 10-11-2011, 04:40 PM
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I think it might help to point out to Jerry that the OP is descriptive, not imperative. I.e., it doesn't say, "Conservatives! Say stupid shit!"

But then again, maybe it should. :chin:
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Old 10-12-2011, 02:03 AM
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Hey, I am right here!
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Old 10-12-2011, 03:01 AM
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As expected, Ohio lost two seats in the House of Representatives as a result of the last census. Republicans being in charge of the state legislature, thus in charge of redistricting, this abomination resulted. I looked at it and said, "Where the hell's my old district?" Then I was all like, "Oh yeah, Republicans. It's fucking gone."

One totally unintended result of the new map is that long-time Democratic reps Marcy Kaptur and Dennis Kucinich are running against each other in District 9. One will win the primary, the other will lose and be out of Congress.

The GOP smells blood, so they're trundling out the big guns. Joe Samuel the Plumber Idiot is fixing to toss his safety helmet hat into the ring. He hasn't actually said anything stupid yet (other than something like "I might run for Congress nyuk nyuk nyuk"), but when his campaign begins in earnest the idiocy will fall like rain.
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So, what's wrong with that map? It looks quite colorful to me.
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Baltimore city, PG, and Montgomery counties are the democratic counties, every thing else is conservative.

These 3 counties control the representation of the 24 counties.


1st CONGRESSIONAL ELECTION DISTRICT
(Cecil, Kent, Queen Anne's, Caroline, Talbot, Dorchester, Wicomico, Worcester & Somerset counties & parts of Anne Arundel, Baltimore & Harford counties)

2nd CONGRESSIONAL ELECTION DISTRICT
(parts of Anne Arundel, Baltimore & Harford counties & Baltimore City)

3rd CONGRESSIONAL ELECTION DISTRICT
(parts of Anne Arundel, Baltimore & Howard counties & Baltimore City)

4th CONGRESSIONAL ELECTION DISTRICT
(parts of Prince George's & Montgomery counties)

5th CONGRESSIONAL ELECTION DISTRICT
(Calvert, Charles & St. Mary's counties & parts of Anne Arundel & Prince George's counties)

6th CONGRESSIONAL ELECTION DISTRICT
(Allegany, Carroll, Frederick, Garrett & Washington counties & parts of Baltimore, Harford, & Montgomery counties)

7th CONGRESSIONAL ELECTION DISTRICT
(parts of Baltimore City, & Baltimore & Howard counties)

8th CONGRESSIONAL ELECTION DISTRICT
(parts of Montgomery & Prince George's counties)





http://www.msa.md.gov/msa/mdmanual/3...l/rep.html#1st
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That map sucks. Not nearly as colorful as the Ohio map. Maryland needs to step up its game.
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Conservatives do not have any monopoly on stupid.
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They do have a commanding market share, however.
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That map sucks. Not nearly as colorful as the Ohio map. Maryland needs to step up its game.
Hey, 8 districts for such a small State is pretty good.
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They do have a commanding market share, however.
Yes but quantity is not enough to compensate for quality, and the liberals have a much better grasp of being really stupid, not just a little bit occasionally like conservatives.
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Oh, and the outright liberal dishonesty trumps the occasional conservative stupid any day.
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thank you thedoc, no doubt the many examples of liberals saying stupid shit and outright lying have surely changed my mind.

Again folks. I did not right the title as a command, but i do appreciate yall's little impromptu examples
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Oh, and the outright liberal dishonesty trumps the occasional conservative stupid any day.
Feel free to start the liberal stupidity/dishonesty thread.
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Please don't taunt me with that. :cries: I was young and foolish and did not know any better.
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Did you check out the gerrymandering video, it is well done. :yup:
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