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Oh look, creepy gropey Uncle Joe has grabbed someone by the pussy.
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I'm glad that this is all over the media.

Just kidding, fuck these flaming hypocrites. :lol:
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Internets say Bernie out
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Yup.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...-race-n1155156
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Bernie to stand as Independent?

(Can you even have an Independent pres?)
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He won't. He could, but he won't.
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Well done Bernie.

Bernie Sanders Endorses Joe Biden
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Old 04-13-2020, 09:30 PM
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I noticed that Warren hasn't endorsed Biden yet. I wonder if she will.
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Old 04-13-2020, 09:38 PM
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I wondered that as well. Doesn't seem any point in not endorsing him now really.

Also, I still wish Biden would pick his VP now. Get it out there and ffs pick someone that will bring in more voters. Don't fucking choose Klubachar as has been rumoured lately.
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Kamala Harris seems to me easily the best choice, as she ticks a number of important boxes:
  1. Woman
  2. Black
  3. Also Indian-American
  4. CA senator, so won't put a seat at risk – we’ll probably get a great replacement Senator like Adam Schiff or Katie Porter
  5. Also former CA AG, so has experience running a large government organisation and is well qualified to take over if Biden for some reason becomes unable to serve
  6. Well liked, “SHEZACOP” aside (narrator, voiced by uncredited Ron Howard: “in fact, Attorneys General and prosecutors are not police officers”)
  7. Strong liberal voting record overall, despite a few issues in her past (which her more recent record mostly makes up for)
  8. Charismatic
  9. Won’t take any shit from Republicans – no “look forward, not back” horseshit from her
Of course I thought she had a serious shot at actually getting the nomination and she dropped out before Iowa, so take all this with a grain of salt.

Biden was like #10 on my list of candidates, probably, but I’d been expecting him to get the nomination for most of the last year or so, so I’m not as disappointed as a lot of people are right now, because I’d already moved to the acceptance stage of grief, if you will. (A lot of people are clearly still caught in the bargaining or anger phases, or even denial.) At least he seems to be open to listening to the left – he’s not an ideologue and tends to move with the Democratic Party, and sometimes even gets a bit out in front (marriage equality being a big example of this).

In any case, we’ve got two choices in November – no third-party candidate will serve as anything but a spoiler, and I have no patience with anyone arguing to do anything except vote straight-ticket Democrat. The stakes of this election are too important.

Might expound more on some of this later, perhaps – got a lot on my plate right now, though, so this is briefer than it might’ve been otherwise.
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I noticed that Warren hasn't endorsed Biden yet. I wonder if she will.
Yes, she will. I thought Bernie's endorsement was very nice and I kind of liked how they did it. NeverBiden twitter is taking it hilariously badly, and seems strangely surprised by it, even by their reality-distant standards. Bernie did what he said he would do. One hopes they go the way of PUMA 2008. Remember PUMA? No? Exactly.

Kamala seems a great veep choice to me, but I think Biden needs to be strategic on timing. Trump is hurting himself right now - don't interrupt him. Announce VP and the next day announce your whole fucking cabinet.

I remain skeptical in general that Trump can be beaten because his white pride platform will carry him far. But it's going to take a little more discipline and some more abstraction to refocus his honed supremacist message on a virus.
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announce your whole fucking cabinet.
Tangentally related and I bring it up because there's been a number of Americans showing up in r/Canada and r/yourprovincehere to get news and messages of hope.

In 2015, while not exactly My Biden, call him Biden Plus, Justin Trudeau, a man known for opening his pie hole and derp falling out and various lapses of judgment over the years announced his cabinet.

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And it's had some problems, I'm unsurprised. The hype couldn't possibly be lived up to, but I'm... satisfied.

When they restored the gutted Census, Canadians Lost. Their. Shit. Shouting at their computers when they weren't given the long form. "GIVE ME THE LONG FORM YOU FUCKS." People bragged about getting the long form like it's the bee's knees, man. So stoked to do something resembling civic duty.

I want that mood for America so bad. Despite all the bruises, and fights and the international version of MOM HE'S TOUCHING ME, I want my fucking friend to put down the crack pipe, get help, I want my friend back.*

*It's going to take way more than a single change of presidency, America has unfortunately tarred itself as an unreliable partner and in some areas it's McConnells all the way down. Good luck, y'all, eh?

Edit: I got side tracked there, the conclusion I was trying to make is derp boy makes good enough with the right fucking team. Sounds like Biden.
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Feel the afterbern.
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Arguing over whether Joe Biden is the best Dem candidate at this juncture is like debating whether to get in the car with an Uber driver who has a 3.9 rating, or just walk home through a literal shit storm. One that has been forecast raging for the last 3.5 years.
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But it's going to take a little more discipline and some more abstraction to refocus his honed supremacist message on a virus.
For the coronavirus, he ought to go with a life supremacist message.
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I noticed that Warren hasn't endorsed Biden yet. I wonder if she will.
Now she has:
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What about the Tara Reade thing? It does seem like she brought something up about this in the early nineties. Is there a way to switch horses midstream, if we wanted to?


New Evidence Supports Credibility of Tara Reade's Allegation Against Biden
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How would that even work? Like the only way I can see it happening is if Biden stepped down as Nominee. And then what happens? I assume somewhere there are rules for that?

I can't see Biden doing it though. People that get to those positions are rarely that selfless.
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The creepy old guy who will probably kill less people or the creepier old guy who doesn't give a shit at all. 'Merica. :/
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Well I got off my lazy ass and did some looking, even though I usually rely on the :ff: to tell me stuff. But these are strange times and so:

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Filling a Vacancy on the National Ticket: In the event of death, resignation or disability of a nominee of the Party for President or Vice President after the adjournment of the National Convention, the National Chairperson of the Democratic National Committee shall confer with the Democratic leadership of the United States Congress and the Democratic Governors Association and shall report to the Democratic National Committee, which is authorized to fill the vacancy or vacancies.
So the DNC would just pick someone. That would be one hell of a shitshow.

This assumes that the vacancy occurs after the National Convention when the delegates have voted.

If it happens before then, I guess the delegates can discuss and vote for other candidates (or possibly anyone, here comes that 25-1 shot Hillary Clinton! :D)
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Biden isn't the nominee yet. He hasn't been nominated. He doesn't even have enough delegates to be nominated yet. But he will be. Right or wrong, the allegations will not matter - the entire cumulative effect of three years of Trump is that nothing matters.
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What about the Tara Reade thing? It does seem like she brought something up about this in the early nineties. Is there a way to switch horses midstream, if we wanted to?

New Evidence Supports Credibility of Tara Reade's Allegation Against Biden
It doesn't seem to me that that phone call really supports her more serious allegation as opposed to her original allegation.

The quote "My daughter has just left there, after working for a prominent senator, and could not get through with her problems at all, and the only thing she could have done was go to the press, and she chose not to do it out of respect for him" seems more consistent with her original allegation of creepy but possibly/seemingly non-sexual touching than it does with an assault which could bring criminal charges.

You can defend that going to the police was practically not a possibility as there would be no expectation of being believed or in it resulting in consequences, but she isn't naming names on that call, so she could've said it anyway without worry. And since Biden was the author of the Violence Against Women Act, the hypocrisy angle for bringing down a Democrat would've been pretty juicy for the media, so that maybe isn't even true.
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