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Right now, Republicans wish they would stop sticking microphones in that asshat's face.
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Yeah but let's face it, when has CNN told us anything we could NOT get from our drunk uncles.
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Old 04-26-2014, 04:25 PM
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You guys had all the fun, I never had a drunk uncle. In fact, my uncles were all too sober.
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Yeah, mine doesn't drink either, but I still know which one you mean.
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I have an uncle who liked to take out his dentures too. Even when not drunk. Beats CNN any day.
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Can we buy Watser? some beer and pretend he's our drunk uncle?
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I'm the one more likely to sound like a drunk uncle.
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Yeah, 'some beer' will get Watser? drunk :rolleyes:
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I was getting my nails done and they had CNN on mute with the closed captions and it was Wolf and the other two people talking about this. I don't know what show that is, it's like fox and friends but on CNN. They kept cutting to the guy making stupid remarks and then coming back and talking about how this shouldn't be news and that he's just like any other racist militia guy, but he somehow got the national spotlight and he's using it to add his voice to the conversation. (Wouldn't we all?) Then they said he was going to give yet another press conference, and I wondered whether CNN planned on showing it.
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Yeah, 'some beer' will get Watser? drunk :rolleyes:
Could be a full shopping cart of beer. That would still qualify as 'some.' Obviously we may need to do some field work to determine the exact amount necessary.
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Default Re: Clive Bundy, Living Caricature of Libertopian.

So some redneck from Hicksville, Nevada spouts run-of-the-mill racism. Who would have thunk it? I wish the media concentrated on how that arsewipe fought the feds in court for twenty years, lost every single case and then refused to participate in any further court proceedings. This kind of puts the appearance of the BLM on federal land into proper perspective.

Also, Bundy's foot-in-mouth comment was a minute segment of his recorded 67 minute media event, and there is plenty more important crap to report than his totally unremarkable racism. If you go to about the 25 minute mark, for instance, you'll see that Bundy is a fully blown sovereign citizen nutter: "You cannot ask the President of the United States for your land back. You cannot ask Congress for your land back and you can't expect the judical (sic) system to give your land back." "Why not?" he asks his supporters rhetorically. Well, the obvious answer is: "because we already have it. You can't ask for something you already have." ... "They can't give you something you already have. Very simple." ... "We own this land."

That idiocy - as well as the 20 years' worth of court cases Bundy lost, his refusal to attend court proceedings from then on, and his refusal to continue paying even the token grazing fee of $1.35 per head of cattle per month - is to me what the media ought to focus on, not some racist remark that could have been uttered by any of the other redneck down his way..
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Default Re: Clive Bundy, Living Caricature of Libertopian.

You would think it would be just as outrageous.

Personally, my thoughts were that they should go arrest him and anyone else who was an armed participant in his thuggery.

While his racism is the cherry on top of the shit sundae that is Cliven Bundy, I don't think he should be arrested for that.
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Default Re: Clive Bundy, Living Caricature of Libertopian.

Yah, what you said.

It's the Paula Dean nonsense from last year all over again. The real story was the extremely hostile work environment she and her brother ran, but as soon as she overstepped the boundaries of polite acceptable dogwhistle racism, the media, glad to be free of the responsibility to report on anything that would require actual analysis, ran with "Paula Dean said a bad word!"
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Here's Matt Bors being a genius again:

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Default Re: Clive Bundy, Living Caricature of Libertopian.

Is he being a genius though, or just copying Andy Borowitz?

From April 24th:
Borowitz Report: Republicans Blast Nevada Rancher for Failing to Use Commonly Accepted Racial Code Words

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“We Republicans have worked long and hard to develop insidious racial code words like ‘entitlement society’ and ‘personal responsibility,’ ” said Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky). “There is no excuse for offensive racist comments like the ones Cliven Bundy made when there are so many subtler ways of making the exact same point.”
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It looks like the US gained possession by breaking a treaty from the 1800's by claiming 'trustee' in the 1990's after the land owners didn't sell out. The US literally paid the US for the land.
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It looks like the US gained possession by breaking a treaty from the 1800's by claiming 'trustee' in the 1990's after the land owners didn't sell out. The US literally paid the US for the land.
Literally the first FICA dollar of every green HIV!
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It is a queer circumstance, don't you think?
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hey Chuck, how about I appoint myself as your trustee and then as your trustee sell your property to me.

I would literally be paying myself for your stuff.
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Yeah, how about that!

Like, is this some goofy Sovereign Citizen nonsense or what?
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lol, no

Arizona (for the most part) was Shoshone by treaty with the US. Arizona in its statehood declared the US in control of US property within Arizona. (strange thing historically)

This in no way invalidates the Treaty between Shoshone and the US.
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Here, check this out: Raymond Yowell: A Courageous Indigenous Leader - ICTMN.com
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After the ICC decision, the U.S. offered money in exchange for Western Shoshone title. When they refused to accept the money, the U.S. took the extraordinary step of accepting it on their behalf, claiming to be their "trustee." The U.S. Supreme Court upheld this in United States v. Dann, 470 U.S. 39 (1985), stating that "the Shoshone's aboriginal title has been extinguished" because the U.S. accepted the money from itself on behalf of the Western Shoshone.

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