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Old 05-15-2009, 03:17 AM
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The success stories are there, and it's certainly possible to work your way from nothing to great success. What most people won't say and don't like to dwell on is that the ones who make it are the exception, not the rule, and you're far more likely to fail or stall along the way and make someone else rich, usually someone already at the top.

Shouldn't stop you from trying, I suppose, or being able to try. Land of opportunity, sure, but don't expect anyone to admit just how unequal and unlikely that opportunity is.
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The sour grapes from the woulda, shoulda, couldas is disfortunate. Risk is not for the faint of heart. Get you a bank in forclosure like the rest of us and quit yer whining.
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Dingfod's Bank, open most days and some evenings. If I'm not there when you come to make a deposit, leave it on the kitchen table. I'll be back soon. If you come to make a withdrawal and I'm not there, come back some other time, because I'll be out of town applying for TARP money.
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An anonymous "TARP wife" has written her confessions in an editorial for the not-quite-working-class Cond Nast Portfolio. Haha, no not really anonymous, it was Liz Peek, wife of Jeffrey Peek, CEO of CIT Group. I think it probably took about 12 hours for the Internets to blow her cover.
Just a l'il update on how CIT is doing:

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A key U.S. bank regulator had clearly indicated to CIT Group (CIT.N) weeks ago that it would not be eligible for a government debt guarantee program, and even gave the troubled lender the opportunity to withdraw its application, say sources familiar with the matter.

CIT, which is scrambling for a private deal after talks over government financing collapsed on Wednesday, took a gamble by launching a public campaign to pressure the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp into giving it access to the liquidity facility.
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CIT's request for additional help came after it had already received a $2.3 billion capital injection in December from the government's Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP).
Please gummint, help us some moar!

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Well I like that it shows how out of touch they are, good to keep reminders of it, plus the popcorn potential is pretty awesome. Over here in Singapore, one of our civil servants wrote a feature article in the biggest daily newspaper about his $40,000 per head holiday in France with his family and how it was easy to go on holiday for 5 weeks if your staff are good (Note: Singaporean ministers and senior civil servants are the best paid in the world, bar none - our PM earns about 3 times what Obama does before bonuses). This was last December :)
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I understand that that kind of populism isn't always constructive.
Is populism ever constructive? It seems like it would consist, almost by definition, of large numbers of people holding strong opinions on subjects which they are totally ignorant of. I suppose that describes most 'democratic' activism, though.
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I understand that that kind of populism isn't always constructive.
Is populism ever constructive? It seems like it would consist, almost by definition, of large numbers of people holding strong opinions on subjects which they are totally ignorant of. I suppose that describes most 'democratic' activism, though.
If you are new to :ff:, welcome! Though if you are new you have the same custom user title as JEROME DA GNOME- 'Juggernaut'. And your sentence construction and use of absolutes bears striking similarities.

Regarding populism. Yes, populism is at times constructive. It is kind of the underpinning of democratic principles. You could argue tyranny of the masses, or populism being a platform for launching into nationalism and/or fascism, but populism does not guarantee or ensure the rise of any of those things. The opposite of populism being elitism, where a small number of people hold strong opinions on one subject: how they can maintain their own wealth and power, often at the expense of the majority.

Large numbers of people hold strong opinions on subjects they are totally ignorant of, but the other present option is relying on small numbers of people whose judgments are equally suspect. If you want to reduce ignorance, then encourage better systems and means of public education and higher education; though the elites seem pretty happy with a public that is relatively ignorant and steerable...to a degree. Despite all the work to try to quash single-payer, it still receives broad public support. Despite the elected officials, AIPAC, and the media being in love with Israel, the public majority wants Palestine and Israel regarded and supported equally. Despite the efforts to sell the Iraq War, public opinion remained majority against. Public opinion also forced the government to end the Vietnam war, helped curtail numerous government incursions into our civil rights, enact labor laws, give women the right to vote, end slavery- etc.

It turns out that the constructiveness of an opinion is not dependent on where it comes from, despite whatever appeal to authority via the virtue of wealth and power -or the lack thereof- one might wish to construct. The constructive test will have to be used with some other guidelines than populism.
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Though if you are new you have the same custom user title as JEROME DA GNOME- 'Juggernaut'. And your sentence construction and use of absolutes bears striking similarities.
Of course it's Jerome. He's planting another account here as a sockpuppet. And, to use as a backup under the likelihood that his current account gets banned.
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Old 07-27-2009, 12:45 PM
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Paranoid much?
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Paranoid much?
Hey tell us again about that New World Order.
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Paranoid much?
Just wise to the ways of trolls.
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Paranoid much?
Hey tell us again about that New World Order.
I think a world government may be a good thing, now those that disagree and wave their hands about that it is not happening despite being told it is by many of the power elites right before their eyes just because they are afraid are the paranoid ones, no?


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I think a world government may be a good thing, now those that disagree and wave their hands about that it is not happening despite being told it is by many of the power elites right before their eyes just because they are afraid are the paranoid ones, no?


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You and Palin should get together and start having long winded nonsensical babies.

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...long winded nonsensical babies.

Have you ever met a concise sensical baby?
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Dear thread,
I thought of you when I read this today.

Attack of the 1-percenters - OregonLive.com
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Dear thread,
I thought of you when I read this today.

Attack of the 1-percenters - OregonLive.com

You do realize that they are talking about Obama and Bush.

Together they play the proles like a fiddle.

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That is Obama taking form the poor and giving to the rich.
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...long winded nonsensical babies.

Have you ever met a concise sensical baby?

:baby:
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Seems both concise and reasonable to me.
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Dear thread,
I thought of you when I read this today.

Attack of the 1-percenters - OregonLive.com

You do realize that they are talking about Obama and Bush.

Together they play the proles like a fiddle.

:yup:


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That is one of the most disturbing pictures I've ever seen. :shudder:
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Hello AIG stakeholders!
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Wearing flip-flops, khaki shorts and a green polo shirt, the new chief executive of bailed-out insurer American International Group (AIG) says he's getting a lot of work done from his massive villa overlooking the Adriatic.

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The new AIG CEO is being paid more than his predecessor, Ed Liddy, who made just $1 a year. AIG said it will pay Benmosche $3 million in cash and $4 million in fully-vested stock. He also could receive a bonus valued as high as $3.5 million.

"It's the bottom end of a competitive range," he said, adding that he earned more previously and would be judged ultimately on his performance. "You still need to pay people competitively."
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Obama stealing from the poor to give to the rich.
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