Go Back   Freethought Forum > The Marketplace > History & Geography

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-11-2011, 08:11 PM
Rickoshay75 Rickoshay75 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: CDLXV
Default Live people outnumber all dead people

According to Scientific American...

The human population has swelled so much that people alive today outnumber all those who have ever lived.

Carl Haub, a demographer at the Population Reference Bureau, Washington, D.C., calculated the human population growth rates during different historical periods to determine the number of dead people.

With 7 billion present population to work with it does sound plausible.
__________________
The fact that a great many people believe something is no guarantee of its truth. W. Somerset Maugham
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-11-2011, 08:14 PM
Vivisectus's Avatar
Vivisectus Vivisectus is offline
Astroid the Foine Loine between a Poirate and a Farrrmer
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: VMMCCCLVI
Blog Entries: 1
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

...and?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-11-2011, 08:19 PM
Jerome's Avatar
Jerome Jerome is offline
Dr. Jerome Corsi-Soetoro, Ph.D., Esq.
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Land of Pleasant Living
Posts: XDXL
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rickoshay75 View Post

With 7 billion present population to work with it does sound plausible.
Yes, and the math has been done many times, this is old news. iirc it happened before the live population reached 2 billion.
__________________
What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. ... The origin of myths is explained in this way.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-11-2011, 09:00 PM
seebs seebs is offline
God Made Me A Skeptic
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Minnesota
Posts: VMMCMXCIII
Images: 1
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

If this is reasonably close to the line, the question of how they count infant mortality becomes highly significant.
__________________
Hear me / and if I close my mind in fear / please pry it open
See me / and if my face becomes sincere / beware
Hold me / and when I start to come undone / stitch me together
Save me / and when you see me strut / remind me of what left this outlaw torn
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-11-2011, 09:13 PM
The Lone Ranger's Avatar
The Lone Ranger The Lone Ranger is offline
Jin, Gi, Rei, Ko, Chi, Shin, Tei
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: MXDXCIX
Images: 523
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

Um, no.

As Scientific American points out, the number of people who have lived is something like 100 billion -- more than an order of magnitude larger than the number of people currently living.
__________________
“The greatest way to live with honor in this world is to be what we pretend to be.”
-- Socrates
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Adam (12-13-2011), Anastasia Beaverhausen (12-12-2011), chunksmediocrites (12-11-2011), Crumb (12-11-2011), davidm (12-11-2011), Doctor X (12-11-2011), Dragar (12-12-2011), freemonkey (12-18-2011), Gonzo (12-13-2011), Kael (12-11-2011), LadyShea (12-11-2011), lisarea (12-11-2011), Pan Narrans (12-14-2011), SharonDee (12-12-2011), SR71 (12-11-2011), Stormlight (12-12-2011), The Man (12-11-2011), Watser? (12-11-2011), Ymir's blood (12-11-2011)
  #6  
Old 12-11-2011, 09:30 PM
davidm's Avatar
davidm davidm is offline
Spiffiest wanger
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: MXCXIX
Blog Entries: 3
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

Hey, though, according to Seymour Lessans, the number of people who have ever lived is trillions and trillions, and as we all know, Seymour was never wrong! :lol:
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Adam (12-13-2011), Doctor X (12-11-2011), Gonzo (12-13-2011), The Man (12-11-2011)
  #7  
Old 12-11-2011, 09:59 PM
LadyShea's Avatar
LadyShea LadyShea is offline
I said it, so I feel it, dick
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Here
Posts: XXXMDCCCXCVII
Images: 41
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

Well, if we do outnumber the deads, we stand a better chance surviving the zombie apocalypse...so that's good
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Adam (12-13-2011), Crumb (12-11-2011), Deadlokd (12-12-2011), freemonkey (12-18-2011), Gonzo (12-13-2011), Leesifer (12-19-2011), livius drusus (12-12-2011), One for Sorrow (12-21-2011), Pan Narrans (12-14-2011), SR71 (12-11-2011), Stormlight (12-12-2011), The Man (03-24-2015)
  #8  
Old 12-11-2011, 10:17 PM
Watser?'s Avatar
Watser? Watser? is offline
Fishy mokey
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Furrin parts
Posts: LMMMDXCI
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

If there's gonna be a zombie apocalypse I wanna live in a country where they cremate the dead. My weapon of choice will be a vacuum cleaner. :muahaha:

Ahem, carry on :caught:
__________________
:typingmonkey:

Last edited by Watser?; 12-12-2011 at 12:09 AM. Reason: d not th
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Anastasia Beaverhausen (12-12-2011), Crumb (12-11-2011), Deadlokd (12-12-2011), Doctor X (12-11-2011), freemonkey (12-18-2011), LadyShea (12-12-2011), Leesifer (12-19-2011), livius drusus (12-12-2011), One for Sorrow (12-21-2011), Pan Narrans (12-14-2011), Qingdai (12-11-2011), SharonDee (12-12-2011), SR71 (12-11-2011), Stormlight (12-12-2011), The Man (12-12-2011)
  #9  
Old 12-11-2011, 10:31 PM
Ymir's blood's Avatar
Ymir's blood Ymir's blood is offline
Coffin Creep
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The nightmare realm
Posts: XXXDCCCIII
Images: 67
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people


:grave:
__________________
Much of MADNESS, and more of SIN, and HORROR the soul of the plot.
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Adam (12-13-2011), Ari (12-11-2011), BrotherMan (12-11-2011), chunksmediocrites (12-11-2011), Crumb (12-11-2011), Deadlokd (12-12-2011), freemonkey (12-18-2011), Gonzo (12-13-2011), Kael (12-11-2011), lisarea (12-11-2011), livius drusus (12-12-2011), Pan Narrans (12-14-2011), Qingdai (12-11-2011), SharonDee (12-12-2011), SR71 (12-11-2011), Stormlight (12-12-2011), The Man (12-12-2011), Watser? (12-11-2011)
  #10  
Old 12-11-2011, 10:32 PM
Jerome's Avatar
Jerome Jerome is offline
Dr. Jerome Corsi-Soetoro, Ph.D., Esq.
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Land of Pleasant Living
Posts: XDXL
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Ranger View Post
Um, no.

As Scientific American points out, the number of people who have lived is something like 100 billion -- more than an order of magnitude larger than the number of people currently living.
He is an idiot, population is exponential.

__________________
What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. ... The origin of myths is explained in this way.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-11-2011, 10:33 PM
Jerome's Avatar
Jerome Jerome is offline
Dr. Jerome Corsi-Soetoro, Ph.D., Esq.
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Land of Pleasant Living
Posts: XDXL
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

__________________
What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. ... The origin of myths is explained in this way.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-11-2011, 10:33 PM
Jerome's Avatar
Jerome Jerome is offline
Dr. Jerome Corsi-Soetoro, Ph.D., Esq.
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Land of Pleasant Living
Posts: XDXL
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

__________________
What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. ... The origin of myths is explained in this way.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-11-2011, 10:34 PM
Jerome's Avatar
Jerome Jerome is offline
Dr. Jerome Corsi-Soetoro, Ph.D., Esq.
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Land of Pleasant Living
Posts: XDXL
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

__________________
What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. ... The origin of myths is explained in this way.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-11-2011, 10:35 PM
Jerome's Avatar
Jerome Jerome is offline
Dr. Jerome Corsi-Soetoro, Ph.D., Esq.
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Land of Pleasant Living
Posts: XDXL
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

__________________
What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. ... The origin of myths is explained in this way.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-11-2011, 10:37 PM
Jerome's Avatar
Jerome Jerome is offline
Dr. Jerome Corsi-Soetoro, Ph.D., Esq.
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Land of Pleasant Living
Posts: XDXL
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

__________________
What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. ... The origin of myths is explained in this way.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 12-11-2011, 10:38 PM
Jerome's Avatar
Jerome Jerome is offline
Dr. Jerome Corsi-Soetoro, Ph.D., Esq.
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Land of Pleasant Living
Posts: XDXL
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

Lone Ranger, why did you believe what one person wrote as opposed to goggling the facts which are available for you to look at for yourself?
__________________
What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. ... The origin of myths is explained in this way.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 12-11-2011, 10:41 PM
Jerome's Avatar
Jerome Jerome is offline
Dr. Jerome Corsi-Soetoro, Ph.D., Esq.
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Land of Pleasant Living
Posts: XDXL
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

Quote:
Originally Posted by LadyShea View Post
Well, if we do outnumber the deads, we stand a better chance surviving the zombie apocalypse...so that's good
Yea, but each one that they kill turns to play for the other team, this would be exponential also..

:zombie2:
__________________
What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. ... The origin of myths is explained in this way.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 12-11-2011, 10:51 PM
davidm's Avatar
davidm davidm is offline
Spiffiest wanger
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: MXCXIX
Blog Entries: 3
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

Quote:
Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME View Post
Lone Ranger, why did you believe what one person wrote as opposed to goggling the facts which are available for you to look at for yourself?
:lol:

Yeah, Lone Ranger, why didn't you "goggle" some Jerome-Facts, and then post up some Jerome Charts?

:foocl:
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
But (12-21-2011), Stormlight (12-12-2011), The Man (03-24-2015)
  #19  
Old 12-11-2011, 11:02 PM
Ari's Avatar
Ari Ari is offline
I read some of your foolish scree, then just skimmed the rest.
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bay Area
Gender: Male
Posts: XMDCCCLXIX
Blog Entries: 8
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

Good Job Jerome, the world population is higher now than it has ever been, but that wasn't the disputed claim,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rickoshay75 View Post
The human population has swelled so much that people alive today outnumber all those who have ever lived.
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Stormlight (12-12-2011), The Man (12-12-2011)
  #20  
Old 12-11-2011, 11:05 PM
Kyuss Apollo's Avatar
Kyuss Apollo Kyuss Apollo is offline
happy now, Mussolini?
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: location, location
Posts: VMCCCXI
Blog Entries: 7
Images: 17
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

The problem with these graphs is that they start at AD 1000.

What TLR and other educated people know is that fossil evidence indicates that modern humans have been around anywhere from 160 to 200 times longer than that.



No wait, they was creationated AFTER that, until 4004 BC!
:larry:
__________________
This week's track: MINUTEMEN - History Lesson Part II



Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
SR71 (12-21-2011), Stormlight (12-12-2011), The Man (03-24-2015)
  #21  
Old 12-11-2011, 11:08 PM
The Lone Ranger's Avatar
The Lone Ranger The Lone Ranger is offline
Jin, Gi, Rei, Ko, Chi, Shin, Tei
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: MXDXCIX
Images: 523
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

Quote:
Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME View Post
Lone Ranger, why did you believe what one person wrote as opposed to goggling the facts which are available for you to look at for yourself?
Is this some sort of joke, or are you an idiot?

Do you truly not grasp the difference between the number of people who have lived in the nearly half-a-million year history of our species (which has been estimated at over 100 billion by independent researchers for several decades now) and the number of people who are alive now?


It's worth keeping in mind that the evidence rather strongly suggests that the considerable majority of people who were born did not survive until their 5th birthday. Regardless, the number of people alive today is less than 1/10th the total number of people who have lived in our species' entire history.
__________________
“The greatest way to live with honor in this world is to be what we pretend to be.”
-- Socrates
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Adam (12-13-2011), chunksmediocrites (12-11-2011), davidm (12-11-2011), Deadlokd (12-12-2011), freemonkey (12-18-2011), livius drusus (12-12-2011), Stormlight (12-12-2011), The Man (12-12-2011), Watser? (12-11-2011), Zehava (12-12-2011)
  #22  
Old 12-11-2011, 11:13 PM
Doctor X Doctor X is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: XMVCCCIII
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Ranger View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mildred View Post
Lone Ranger, why did you believe what one person wrote as opposed to goggling the facts which are available for you to look at for yourself?
Is this some sort of joke, or are you an idiot?
Rhetorical question?

--J.D.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 12-11-2011, 11:15 PM
chunksmediocrites's Avatar
chunksmediocrites chunksmediocrites is offline
ne plus ultraviolet
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Portland Oregon USA
Gender: Male
Posts: VCCXXX
Images: 299
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

It's just Jerry Soetoro preforming admiralty. Goggle it, people.
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
The Man (03-24-2015), Watser? (12-11-2011)
  #24  
Old 12-11-2011, 11:31 PM
davidm's Avatar
davidm davidm is offline
Spiffiest wanger
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: MXCXIX
Blog Entries: 3
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

:lol: @ Jerome. I wonder if he enjoys constantly making a fool of himself?
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 12-11-2011, 11:33 PM
Jerome's Avatar
Jerome Jerome is offline
Dr. Jerome Corsi-Soetoro, Ph.D., Esq.
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Land of Pleasant Living
Posts: XDXL
Default Re: Live people outnumber all dead people

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari View Post
Good Job Jerome, the world population is higher now than it has ever been, but that wasn't the disputed claim,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rickoshay75 View Post
The human population has swelled so much that people alive today outnumber all those who have ever lived.
You can't count Neanderthal thru Australopithecus. Those dumb fucks couldn't make a society of exponential growth as we have.
__________________
What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. ... The origin of myths is explained in this way.
Reply With Quote
Reply

  Freethought Forum > The Marketplace > History & Geography


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

 

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:39 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Page generated in 0.56839 seconds with 15 queries