A revolution in thought

[Stephen Maturin]

Since peacegirl has now admitted, however tacitly, that she's a compatibilist after years and years of denial, let's get back to the important stuff. You know, rumpy pumpy on the dinner table, saying yes to a date is automatically saying yes to banging, the mathematical inevitability of separate beds, falling in love with one another's junk, the demise of fat chicks and homo-sexuals, juicy cunts, the need to hospitalize dissenters (humanely and for their own good, of course), etc.

[Florence Jellem]

I think what needs to be done at this point is to get the Authentic Text (not the corrupted text) into the hands of that nice Donald Trump, who I call “Big Daddy.” Isn’t he handsome! (Full disclosure: Flo has always had a thing for men with short fingers, orange hair, and six chins.) I trust that ChuckF, as the True Steward of the Authentic Text, can be prevailed upon to deliver it into the hands of our glorious new president. If Chuck acts fast, maybe that dear Mr. Trump will talk about the Authentic Text in his Inaugural Address and show the Path to World Peace (with military action against any dissenters, which I’m sure will appeal to Big Daddy).

On the off chance that Big Daddy ignores the Authentic Text, then a lawsuit against him will be in order. This is fine, because Big Daddy is used to being sued. And this will nicely complement the lawsuit that peacegirl’s paw paw filed against Jimmy Carter. So this is win-win stuff. If Big Daddy decides to settle the lawsuit rather than contest it, as he normally does, then ChuckF, as the True Steward of the Authentic Text, can make a nice chunk of change off this deal and change his user name from ChuckF to ChunkC.

#TrueStewardship

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by GdB

Then there is no way to go further. I asked you about volition and its moral relevance. We agreed that we both do not believe in categorical CHDO. We agreed that volition is what compatibilists understand under free will. We agreed that the responsibility that goes with volition is not ultimate responsibility. We agreed that the hypothetical reading of CHDO does not contradict determinism, and that it is enough to assign people responsibility (not ultimate responsibility!). That is compatibilism. But you refuse to call yourself a compabilist???

Then I can be sure we get in conceptual trouble again. So make up your mind, please.

Just for the record, I did not agree that responsibility goes with volition except in the sense that the person performed the action. If I drive my car into another car, I did it, therefore I am responsible. To assign moral responsibility by attributing volition to said action does nothing to save compatibilist free will...but don't get me wrong, I understand the desire to reconcile these two position. There is a problem with the logic in that a person has compatibilist free will but does not have ultimate responsibility. It's a contradiction no matter how you slice it. I am not a compatibilist. I am a hard incompatibilist!

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by Florence Jellem

So this is win-win stuff. If Big Daddy decides to settle the lawsuit rather than contest it, as he normally does, then ChuckF, as the True Steward of the Authentic Text, can make a nice chunk of change off this deal and change his user name from ChuckF to ChunkC.

It is indeed win-win stuff. If Big Daddy contests the lawsuit, we might get treated to some cross-examination, which as everyone knows "is when the plaintiff grills the defendant to cause reasonable doubt after the defense had its turn."

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[ChuckF]

peacegirl, Flo raises an important point. Have you sent a copy of your Corrupted Text to President-Elect Trump? If not, why not? Are you too ashamed of the Corruptions you've done?

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

Are you too ashamed of the Corruptions you've done?

That's probably it. She's also concerned that if Trump sees just how thoroughly peacegirl butchered the Authentic Text, he'll change his mind about vaccines.

[Florence Jellem]

I doubt that Big Daddy would actually bother to read either the Authentic or the Corrupt Text, boys. By all accounts he has never read a book in his life, and he has flunkies to write his own books for him. That’s because he can’t be bothered with fancy-schmancy book-larnin’, and more power to him. He’s a salt-of-the-earth type that way. The key to get his attention, Flo would expect, are short bullet-pointed lists or maybe a PowerPoint presentation. What’s nice here is that I’m sure he can relate to key points in the book, for example:

*Fat chicks are right out
*Genitals are where it’s at
*Precious, precious cunts
*No more homos!
*Juicy cunts
*Play “hide the bratwurst” on the dinner table
*No one is to blame for anything, so it’s OK to stiff your creditors.

You see where I’m going with this, boys? Big Daddy is the perfect target for this book, but it will have to be presented to him in bite-sized chunks. Maybe the easiest thing to do would be to email him an animated smilie version of the Authentic Text, with short word balloons that won’t tax him too much.

#TrueStewardship

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by Florence Jellem

*No one is to blame for anything, so it’s OK to stiff your creditors.

Demanding payment from one's debtors is form of advance blame, a first blow that conscience would ne'er allow in the New World.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

Demanding payment from one's debtors is form of advance blame, a first blow that conscience would ne'er allow in the New World.

I have no desire to psychoanalyse you Maturin, but your responses are a giveaway. They give clues to who you are based on your history in this thread. I'm trying to understand what accounts for your viciousness toward me. I must be hitting some nerve but I'm not invested in you so you'll have to figure out the reason why you're so angry on your own. I really believe we could get along if you were able to overcome your defensiveness. Just a thought.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I have no desire to psychoanalyse you Maturin ...

You have the desire in spades; what you lack are qualifications.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

but I'm not invested in you

Your actions betray you quite completely. To recap, you came here to my home forum nearly six years ago. I recognized you for what you are rather quickly, and have been heaping derision and ridicule on you ever since. You've tried to ignore me. You've even tried a few times to stay away from . You've failed. Repeatedly.

We both know what's happening here.

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Meshell Ndegeocello " You really got a hold on me...

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I really believe we could get along ...

Stranger things have happened, but I kinda doubt it. Once again, I'm not a Nazi and did not vote to turn over the executive branch of the federal government to Nazis just because the Head Nazi In Charge tweeted something about vaccines. Moreover, I do not believe the world owes me a living. Other than enjoying the company of dogs (mine can recognize people by sight alone, btw), we simply have nothing in common.

[peacegirl]

dupe

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

*No one is to blame for anything, so it’s OK to stiff your creditors.



Demanding payment from one's debtors is form of advance blame, a first blow that conscience would ne'er allow in the New World.

Why are you misrepresenting what's in the book?

I have no desire to psychoanalyse you Maturin ...

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin"

You have the desire in spades; what you lack are qualifications.

I have no desire to analyze why you're so determined to ruin this man's reputation. It's sad!

Originally Posted by peacegirl

but I'm not invested in you

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

Your actions betray you quite completely. To recap, you came here to my home forum nearly six years ago. I recognized you for what you are rather quickly, and have been heaping derision and ridicule on you ever since. You've tried to ignore me. You've even tried a few times to stay away from . You've failed. Repeatedly.

We both know what's happening here.

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Meshell Ndegeocello " You really got a hold on me " - YouTube

You did not recognize me for what I am. You don't have a clue who I am but you think you do. What arrogance!

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I really believe we could get along ...

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

Stranger things have happened, but I kinda doubt it. Once again, I'm not a Nazi and did not vote to turn over the executive branch of the federal government to Nazis just because the Head Nazi In Charge tweeted something about vaccines. Moreover, I do not believe the world owes me a living. Other than enjoying the company of dogs (mine can recognize people by sight alone, btw), we simply have nothing in common.

You are impossible to have normal conversation with. I'm leaving this thread now that GdB is not posting.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Why are you misrepresenting what's in the book?

peacegirl, why are you misrepresenting what's in the Authentic Text with your Corrupted Text?

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I'm ending this thread now that GdB is not posting.

As True Steward of the Authentic Text, I open it back up.

peacegirl, why did you delete the part where you were telling Maturin that is not his home forum, or some dumb shit like that?

[Florence Jellem]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

... we simply have nothing in common.

I’m pretty sure peacegirl has the hots for you, dear, as who wouldn’t? If I were younger … but never mind! I’ve been married thrice and I’ve had enough of the “funny business.”

Just look at what she wrote about you more than five years ago:

You need to go to your corner Stephen and don't come out until you read the book, or you will go back to basic training. Why are you being booked for insubordination? You know why, but you don't like the truth. You know nothing about this psychological law of man's nature, but you are acting like you are the Anointed One, electing yourself to be the final judge of this knowledge. Once again, that's like asking a chimpanzee to call the shots. I hope the people in this thread recognize the source from which bullshit emanates.

Back to basic training? Hm. That sounds kind of kinky right there, doesn’t it? As for the rest, it’s clear she’s looking for an Anointed One in her life, like her father was, and for the same reason she voted for Big Daddy, the true source from which bullshit emanates. Peacegirl is into bullshit! So kinky!

Only ten more pages till we party like it’s 1999, boys!

#TrueStewardship

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

As True Steward of the Authentic Text, I open it back up.

Deary deary me oh my, how arrogant (and stupid!) of peacegirl to believe she can "end[]" this thread! There's that elderly white suburban ex-hausfrau entitlement mentality on display yet again!

For now, though, I will pretend that peacegirl's word actually means something () and that henceforth we may discuss and study the Authentic Text in peace, free from peacegirl's malevolent blaming and the vile taint of the rafaelized Corrupted Text.

Originally Posted by ChuckF

peacegirl, why did you delete the part where you were telling Maturin that is not his home forum, or some dumb shit like that?

Yeah, I saw that foolishness myself. She wrote that is not my "home," which is strange because I never claimed it was. Looks as though peacegirl, much like Donald "Big Daddy" Trump, is functionally illiterate.

And speaking of Big Daddy, I saw some of the confirmation hearing for that delightful Confederate gentleman Mr. Sessions today. He emphasized the importance of cracking down hard on people who take federal money under false pretenses. Between that and Mr. Ryan's plans for Social Security and Medicare, peacegirl could find herself in quite the pickle before too long!

No matter, though, cuz Big Daddy tweeted some dumbass bullshit about autism and vaccines, and pandering to morons on social media is what really counts.

[Florence Jellem]

That nice Mr. Sessions seems so courtly! And wasn’t he unflappable, the way he shrugged off those nasty motley protesters during his hearing today!

Flo just learned that his full name is Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III. Isn’t that something? I’m getting a mite wet thinking about that awesome name, truth be told. Flo is having a bit of a fantasy here of Beauregard and I hitched, circa 1859, in Alabama. He’s lounging in a white wicker chair on the veranda of our plantation estate sipping a mint julep while Flo is wearing a bone hoop skirt and hovering about to flatter him as the need arises. The Negro slave maid is tending to home affairs and the darkies are down in the fields pickin’ dem cotton and balin’ dem hay or whatever the heck it is that them darkies did back then. But they’re all singing and clearly they’re happy as clams. I’d say they were more content back then than they are now. Now all they do is act up. But I suppose that’s neither here nor there, is it?

In my fantasy, Jefferson is wearing a sexy jacket and a translucent robe.

“Florence?” he says. Puts down his mint julep and puffs on a cigar. Ivy twists around the trellises of the veranda. The Negroes down below be singing “bringin’ in dem sheaves, bringin’ in dem sheaves …”

“Yes, Jefferson, dear?”

He winks significantly at me, the wattles of his ancient pasty-white face twitching spasmodically like rancid cake dough stimulated by hidden electrodes. He leers and jabs a finger downward at his, you know, crooked as a corkscrew, in the folds and furrows of his translucent robe, already moist with you know what …

That’s when Flo whacks him over the head with a frying pan and the whole fantasy goes kerflooey.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by Florence Jellem

That’s when Flo whacks him over the head with a frying pan and the whole fantasy goes kerflooey.

You mean you didn't stick around for the "Rumpy Pumpy" on the kitchen table? Shame on you.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

It is indeed win-win stuff. If Big Daddy contests the lawsuit, we might get treated to some cross-examination, which as everyone knows "is when the plaintiff grills the defendant to cause reasonable doubt after the defense had its turn."

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But I don't even know where to begin in terms of crafting the initial complaint itself. If only there was some pre-drafted, tried and true text I could go by to be sure to convince the judiciary that it should mandate (similar to how the FDA mandates vaccination!) the President to read a book and then use the power of the executive branch to ensure that its contents are investigated.

And where does venue properly lie for such an action? Should I file a petition for a writ of quo warranto with my local Sheriff, or empanel a citizen's grand jury? Or would this matter fall within the original jurisdiction of the Supreme Court as it affects a public Messiah?

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

If only there was some pre-drafted, tried and true text I could go by to be sure to convince the judiciary that it should mandate (similar to how the FDA mandates vaccination!) the President to read a book and then use the power of the executive branch to ensure that its contents are investigated.

If only! It would be even better if the pre-drafted, tried and true text were penned by a chronically butthurt, debilitatingly horny aluminum siding salesman with histrionic personality disorder purporting to speak for all taxpayers and professing encyclopedic knowledge regarding "crime[s] of the highest magnitude" and the standards for removing the President of the United States from office. Such text might conceivably include a demand for an audience, based on a claim of right, with POTUS and 12 leading scientists (not political scientists), but could easily be recast as a demand, based on a claim of right, that POTUS read a book.

If only we had such a text in our document bank.

Originally Posted by ChuckF

And where does venue properly lie for such an action?

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[Stephen Maturin]

Since it looks as though we'll get to the magic 2000 page mark after all, maybe some retrospectives are in order.

peacegirl's booze-fueled, histrionic, all-caps shit fits have always been a cornucopia of lulz. This was one my personal favorites. The butthurt about how peacegirl has "GIVEN SO MUCH TO THIS GROUP" brought to mind davidm's epic description of peacegirl's prior performance at IIBD:

Originally Posted by davidm

There – as here! – she came barging unannounced onto a stage before an audience of learned, intellectual people. There, as here, she rode in wearing a clown suit, with her big red clown shoes furiously pumping at the pedals of a unicycle while she attempted to juggle, swallow a sword and eat fire at the same time. Meanwhile, she had a tall pole balanced atop her red clown’s nose, at the top of which dinner plates were whirling around like dervishes.

Within moments the juggling pins crashed to the floor, the fire burned the curtains, and the sword wound up inside her ass as she lost control of the unicycle, which went flying into the audience while she was dumped onto the stage. The dinner plates were smashed to bits around her, and the pole that she had used to balance them bonked her on the head.

Standing up and undeterred, sword still stuck up her ass, she stamped her foot and demanded applause for a command performance, and warned her stunned onlookers that unless she received the obeisance due her, she would take all her stage props and go home. But then there, as here, she refused to leave the stage even as the house lights were dimmed and the majority of the audience fled to the exits. A few doughty souls remained behind amid a sea of empty seats to rubberneck in awe at the train wreck that she is. From time to time they shouted out questions to her and she replied in her native tongue, bafflegab. Eventually, at iidb, they pried her from the stage with a crowbar and locked the theater, not without fumigating it first.

[ChuckF]

I'm sorry I am only thanking david's awesome précis now! Of course, that was before I astutely observed myself to be the True Steward of the Authentic Text, so he cannot blame me for my late [thanks].

[peacegirl]

The majority of people in here have misrepresented this book to such a degree that there is no way to repair what has been done. Anything I say will perpetuate the lies that have been set in motion. When viewed from the vantage point of determinism, everything had to be exactly as it played out. We are still in the early stages of our development and the animosity displayed in here was necessary and part of a greater plan yet to be revealed. You, as well as I, are products of our genetics and environment, therefore I forgive you all (you know who you are) for the hurt you inflicted on me and on Lessans' memory, but that doesn't mean I will continue to find greater satisfaction in staying when I know there is no way to correct the misinformation that these type of venues lead to. The fact remains, there isn't the slightest resemblance to the original meaning. Chuck, in particular, has no knowledge regarding these principles. He came to this thread only recently and has made it his mission to make people believe that my compilation of my father's 7 books is a money making scheme. He then uses the principle of "no blame" incorrectly by telling me not to blame him for the hurt he has caused me. He is an imposter. I'll leave it to the reader to be the judge.

I cannot believe how long I stuck it out day after day, year after year. The good news is that it was not all in vain. I learned to become thick skinned and fight the bullies that have tried to bring me down. I also learned many things as well. It wasn't all one sided. Interestingly, the insults and mockery meant to do harm have given me the fortitude to continue on with a stronger determination than ever before. This is not the end, just the beginning. I will discuss this book on my Facebook page under the heading Safeworld Publishing. This will give me the space to expound on the true significance of this work. Chuck will be banned if he dare tries to post. So will Maturin, thedoc, Angakuk, Davidm, or any other arrogant know-it-all who tried their darndest to use this thread as lulz. Goodbye!

#TrueStewardship

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

This thread has become destructive to the point that it has misrepresented what the author intended. I cannot believe how long I stayed here but I learned how to to fight bullies in the process. I want to discuss this book on my Facebook page entitled Safeworld Publishing. This will give me the space to expound on the true significance of this work. Chuck will be banned if he tries to post. So will Maturin, thedoc, Angakuk, Davidm, or any other arrogant fool who tried their darndest to use this thread as lulz. Goodbye!

Goodbye, peacegirl! Good luck hawking your Corrupted Text for lucre ($41.00!!!) on your private Facebook page, where you will not have to face the violence you have done to the Authentic Text. You do not have to worry about me trying to post there - as I have repeatedly said, I have no interest in your Corrupted Text. I will interpret the Authentic Text as written by the Author and published in his lifetime, and I shall do so without blame from you.

I am sorry that you reject what your father wrote

But as #TrueSteward of the Authentic Text, I will carry on.

[Florence Jellem]

Buh-bye, peacegirl. See you in a half hour or so, dear.

I concur with ChuckF in my disappointment that you are compelled of your own free will to continue to hawk the Corrupted Text rather than the Authentic Text.

As to the three upcoming parties that will feature G, I and E Homos (though segregated) I think someone should contact posters emeriti like Spacemonkey and LadyShea and invite them to attend.

#TrueStewardship

[Stephen Maturin]

Thank you, peacegirl, for telling us that you're leaving this thread then returning to tell us that you're leaving the thread.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You, as well as I, are products of our genetics and environment, therefore I forgive you for the hurt you inflicted on me and on Lessans' memory.

Thanks! And I forgive you for stealing public funds from people who need them, telling all those ghastly lies, shitting up my home forum for six years, and rafaelizing the Authentic Text beyond all recognition.

In the spirit of forgiveness that now permeates this thread, I probably won't report you to the Office of the Inspector General of the Social Security Administration for SSDI fraud.

Probably.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

The fact remains, there isn't the slightest resemblance to the original meaning.

This is correct. Your odious Corrupted Text bears exactly zero resemblance to the Authentic Text written and published by Seymour Lessans during his lifetime. Thank goodness for ChuckF, who rescued the Authentic Text from the total obscurity of a dusty shelf in the Library of Congress and shared it with a world in need.

#TrueStewardship

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I'll leave it to the reader to be the judge.

The readers have judged. ChuckF is the True Steward, whereas you are a hack who butchered the Authentic Text and are trying to profit from the result of that butchery.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I also learned many things as well. It wasn't all one sided.

That's true. Until you came along, I had no idea what a serious danger that imaginary levers pose to legitimate scientific inquiry. Moreover, I believed that Jews were decent and honorable people. Now, thanks to the trust sources you've cited over and over, I know that the Jews weaponized vaccines for use in a war of extermination against my people, the white race, and that the so-called Holocaust was a Jew-created hoax designed to extort money from Germany.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I will discuss this book on my Facebook page under the heading Safeworld Publishing.

That makes sense. Facebook is stuffed with stupid people and rubes. If there's money to be made on your Corrupted Text, Facebook is likely the place. If you weren't so lazy and incompetent, Facebook would likely be a gold mine for you!

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Chuck will be banned if he dare tries to post. So will Maturin, thedoc, Angakuk, Davidm, or any other arrogant know-it-all who tried their darndest to use this thread as lulz.

That's probably the way to go. Creating an echo chamber may help you do more happy drinking, as opposed to rage drinking.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Goodbye!

See ya soon!