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Old 08-11-2020, 01:56 PM
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Coronavirus: Putin says vaccine has been approved for use - BBC News

Mass vaccinations begin in October. Trump will say that his great relationship with President Putin assures an abundant supply of the vaccine for the U.S., which in turn will get everything back to normal. Americans, the stupidest people on earth, will lap it up like lukewarm 3-day-old gravy from a trough at Cracker Barrel.

But hey, it's all good cuz polls.
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So we've got community transmission again after more than 100 days without. Four cases, restrictions are back in place until contact tracing and testing can be done.
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Four cases :wish:
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That's the community transmission cases. There's a a couple more "probable" now too. There are more cases, but they're in the isolation that everyone arriving in the country has to undergo.
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More like killing your own children, Ron.
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Principles above lives.

How long until we get "active covid case" drills in school, like active shooter drills, without actually doing anything to address the causes?
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We don't negotiate with viruses!
Honest Don has certainly been behaving as if he can just threaten the pandemic into respecting him.
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I seem to remember reading somewhere that antibodies (to any particular bug) indicate exposure, but not necessarily infection, recovery, nor immunity.

Am I getting that wrong?
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Depends on the kind of antibodies you are looking for. I don't know if there's a meaningful distinction between "exposure" and "infection" here, since this is a novel virus and nobody has been exposed before. You have to be exposed to mount an immune response, i.e. there has to be virus in your body. You make two types of antibodies. Binding antibodies are non-specific antibodies that grab foreign things. These are the first kinds of antibodies you would produce if you were infected. So if you currently have or are just getting over COVID, you might have binding antibodies. After an infection, your immune system produces neutralizing antibodies, which bind specifically to the virus. So if you have recovered from COVID, you probably have neutralizing antibodies. Neutralizing antibodies can actually stop a future infection. Neutralizing antibodies are part of how vaccines work.

Most seroprevalence studies look for neutralizing antibodies. The early science also suggests that they fade away after 3 months or so, but there are other types of immune response that may help.
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Depends on the kind of antibodies you are looking for. I don't know if there's a meaningful distinction between "exposure" and "infection" here, since this is a novel virus and nobody has been exposed before. You have to be exposed to mount an immune response, i.e. there has to be virus in your body. You make two types of antibodies. Binding antibodies are non-specific antibodies that grab foreign things. These are the first kinds of antibodies you would produce if you were infected. So if you currently have or are just getting over COVID, you might have binding antibodies. After an infection, your immune system produces neutralizing antibodies, which bind specifically to the virus. So if you have recovered from COVID, you probably have neutralizing antibodies. Neutralizing antibodies can actually stop a future infection. Neutralizing antibodies are part of how vaccines work.

Most seroprevalence studies look for neutralizing antibodies. The early science also suggests that they fade away after 3 months or so, but there are other types of immune response that may help.
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So what the article seems to describe falls in line with that, though the author doesn't really make that connection well.
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There are a related series of corona viruses that cause common colds.
Immunological response is the way we interact with alien invasion into our human micro-biome. There's always the chance the T-cell, white blood cells, and a host of other mechanical and chemical defenses can make the invasion worse (say cytokine storm) or better (already have a defense). Having previous infection by the same family of viruses may be good or bad.
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I am Facebook friends with a skeptic from another discussion board, and he's convinced we should be trying HCQ and now Ivermectin.

It's all about the zinc absorption these medicines help with! Why not take Zinc supplements instead of potentially dangerous anti-parasite medicine? It's frustrating because he's not exactly 100% wrong, but he's also promoting things that may not help, or may help accidentally, but are probably not the medical miracles he thinks they are.
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