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I like the tart of her grapefruit!



Um, or something. Okay, I don't even know what that means. But it sounds vaguely naughty.
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Old 02-06-2011, 05:55 AM
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I wonder if lisarea could translate this for us?

Which comic is this? I assumed Flapper Fanny, but she turns out to be a 30s Katy Keene.
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I wonder if lisarea could translate this for us?

Which comic is this? I assumed Flapper Fanny, but she turns out to be a 30s Katy Keene.
Carrie, the story of a young lady and her friends who usually obsessed with jewelry, fast cars, football tickets and the men who can acquire them.

This is the comic in question.
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How excruciatingly disconcerting!
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Carrie, the story of a young lady and her friends who usually obsessed with jewelry, fast cars, football tickets and the men who can acquire them.
You know, I can't approve of how she's using poor Roscoe for his stunning gas gobbler, but when she popped her new Boria Goneson bob on the curly haired sheik presiding over the soda fountain, I was glad he took her side against those means friends of hers. I can't help but wonder if her poor treatment of Roscoe is a cycle of abuse thing.
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Carrie, the story of a young lady and her friends who usually obsessed with jewelry, fast cars, football tickets and the men who can acquire them.
You know, I can't approve of how she's using poor Roscoe for his stunning gas gobbler, but when she popped her new Boria Goneson bob on the curly haired sheik presiding over the soda fountain, I was glad he took her side against those means friends of hers. I can't help but wonder if her poor treatment of Roscoe is a cycle of abuse thing.
I found that series strangely compelling, actually. Without knowing anything about the author, it's hard to judge whether it is an attack on the morality of 'flappers' by an outsider or a sly self depreciation by someone in the know? While sometimes the girls get their comeuppance at the end of the strip, it isn't always the case and usually is just a shot of irony rather than the overt moralism of a Greek Chorus cataloging their transgressions.

The characters' actions also seemed more natural than the stereotypically stilted plots and speech generally associated with older comics. Contrast the Magician's Daughter series where every strip has the same plot or the Goops where each strip is just a setup leading to a moral. I suppose what I'm getting at, is that whatever else its merits may or may not be, it demonstrates that people in the past were mostly the same as us, whereas much of older literature etc... tends to fool us with bowdlerized morality and stilted dialog.
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She'll "dance" with anyone, for the right price.
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She will, bless her venal heart. Carrie is my new favorite. I'm dreadfully bummed there are no more episodes. :sniffles:
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She will, bless her venal heart. Carrie is my new favorite. I'm dreadfully bummed there are no more episodes. :sniffles:
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Old 02-06-2011, 08:26 PM
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I would. I really, really would. But I can't draw like that, obviously. What we need here is a Contrapposto.
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Old 02-06-2011, 08:29 PM
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Well, you could either repurpose Get Your War On style, or you could do rough storyboards, and like you say, get a boy to do the tedious part for you later.
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Not really the same, but have you ever read anything by Thorne Smith? His most famous work is the Topper series - there was a series of movies and maybe a TV show. The first movie starred Cary Grant. Smith also wrote the original stories for I Married a Witch and IIRC One Touch of Venus.

His books are likely in the public domain now, though usually out of print. He was rather well read in his day (1930s) though. The reason I recommend his work is that they are set in the Pre-Depression era and usually feature one or more liberated women (based on flappers, usually) that disrupt/improve the life of a man.

You might be able to find some of his stuff online.
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The Library of Congress' website is a navigation monster, but you might check to see if they have anything online there. They do have a lot of good stuff, but it can be hard to find and I am TOO OLD for that right now. (Not as old as those creaky bears or anything, but p. old nonetheless.)

Alternately, once me and my bort were looking for some crazy ancient out of print book, and he eventually managed to get one of the sole remaining copies through interlibrary loan, so that's another option too.
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Not really the same, but have you ever read anything by Thorne Smith? His most famous work is the Topper series - there was a series of movies and maybe a TV show. The first movie starred Cary Grant. Smith also wrote the original stories for I Married a Witch and IIRC One Touch of Venus.

His books are likely in the public domain now, though usually out of print. He was rather well read in his day (1930s) though. The reason I recommend his work is that they are set in the Pre-Depression era and usually feature one or more liberated women (based on flappers, usually) that disrupt/improve the life of a man.

You might be able to find some of his stuff online.
Biltmore Oswald by Thorne Smith - Project Gutenberg
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Saved that to my bookmarks. According to Wikipedia, it's a very early work, a collection of short stories while he was in the Navy Reserve.
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Who do we know in Syracuse, New York? Because that's where the Carrie motherlode is. Wood Cowan Papers at Syracuse University.

Vivian the Vamp DO WANTWoodson Messick Cowan (1889-1977), commonly known as Wood Cowan, was an American cartoonist, illustrator and painter.

Originally from Algona, Iowa, Cowan attended the University of Iowa before pursuing art studies at the Art Institute of Chicago. Cowan started in the newspaper business as a sports writer and cartoonist for the George Matthew Adams Syndicate in New York City (1920-1927). During this period he produced sports cartoons and worked on a number of various comic strip titles including Vivian the Vamp, Them Were the Days and Mom 'n' Pop. In 1946, Cowan briefly worked on George Ahern's comic strip Our Boarding House, featuring the popular Major Hoople character. Beginning in 1949, Cowan served as editorial cartoonist for the Bridgeport (Conn.) Evening Post (1949-1959), and then for the New Haven Register (1960-1969).

Wood Cowan was also a prolific illustrator and painter throughout his career. He contributed work to a wide variety of popular magazines including the New Yorker and Argosy, and illustrated numerous book publications. In addition, his paintings were featured in gallery exhibitions in Westport, Conn. (1964), Darien, Conn. (1968), Norwalk, Conn. (1970) and Jekyll Island, Ga. (1972).

A long time resident of Connecticut, Cowan served two terms in the state legislature there (1953-1957) and did a single term as First Selectman for the town of Weston (1957-1959).


Next time I visit my parents in CT I'm going to see if I can track down some of his work.
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I've read some of Mom and Pop over time such publications such as Drawn and Quarterly have reproduced some early comics, in affordable, lushly produced volumes.

I've also read some of the Katzenjammer Kids.

God.... I love comics.
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Fair warning: history nerdery to ensue, like unto my "Baby, It's Cold Outside" nerdxposition that gave lisarea shpilkes the other day.

In a 1908 comic called Ba-Ba which relays the comically sweet adventures of Mary and her little lamb, I encountered the following historically significant panel (clicky for a larger version):



You'll notice that Mary makes a point of telling BaBa, who was recently shorn but is now wearing a wig so he doesn't feel bad about himself, that they are in front of the Flatiron Building in New York City. The peruked gentleman involved in the tragic wind-swept wig mixup also refers to the Flatiron Building, declaring it a public nuisance.

The reason for this is that the height of the building combined with its location between two major thoroughfares (Broadway and Fifth) and in front of Madison Square created unpredictable eddies and whirls of wind. The area became famous for its gusts, and groups of disreputable young men would congregate across from the Flatiron where Broadway and Fifth meet East 23rd hoping to catch glimpses of ladies' skirts flying up to reveal a salacious glimpse of stockinged ankle.

Every once in a while the cops would come around and disperse the hooligans. This became known as giving them the "23 skidoo" on account of they were on 23rd and being told to gtfo (ie, skedaddle, ie, skidoo).

TRUE STORY.

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Aww, liv, just when I thought I couldn't love the Flatiron Building anymore.

Thanks for that amazing bit of history, it absolutely put a smile on my face.
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Is that what 23 Skidoo is about...

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I don't see that the above post is a reply to anything in the Miscellany thread so I am pretending to move it to the Cloaca.
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Is that what 23 Skidoo is about...
I don't know if it what the band had in mind, but that's what it was about when the term took the country by storm. The Flatiron was finished in 1902. Before 1906, "23 skidoo" had never appeared in print. By the end 1906 it was all over the place. It's one of the earliest instances of slang really taking off. It even made the British Wreck Commission's inquiry into the sinking of Titanic. Spoiler: they didn't get it.

lol Brits6344. You are quite right; it is No. 23 door?
- We used to call it the skidoo door, on account of the number. That is how I remember the number.

6345. (The Commissioner.) I do not understand that?
- It is an American joke.

6346. Will you explain it?
- I could not explain it, my Lord.
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I never figured out what the band was named after. I had heard the expression before, mainly in old Loony Tunes cartoons, but it wasn't clear what they meant by it.

The band is British btw, so maybe they didn't know either...

Oh yeah, this is what it says in wikipedia:
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