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01-31-2015, 03:08 PM
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YouTube goes HTML5, is leaving Adobe Flash behind
YouTube Now Streams HTML5 Video By Default | TechCrunch
YouTube's video pick spells doom for Adobe Flash - CNET
Steve Jobs was right: YouTube is finally HTML5-first | Cult of Mac
YouTube Flash HTML5: Steve Jobs right about Flash all along | BGR
YouTube is now using HTML5 video on all web browsers that can support it, though it will continue to use Flash video for browsers without suitable HTML support. On my computer, Google Chrome and Safari now use HTML5, while Firefox and Opera use Flash. But Firefox should use HTML5 before long. To see whether some video is in HTML5 or Flash, right-click or control-click on it. A popup menu should appear. If the video is in Flash, you should see some Flash options.
Being good for YouTube required the addition of variable bitrate and encryption. The latter is good for Digital Restrictions Management, er, Digital Rights Management (DRM). Not only YouTube, but also Vimeo and Netflix and possibly other online video sites are moving to HTML5. Also, both Apple and Microsoft now support it.
What's next for Flash?
There was already some trouble for it a few years back.
Did Steve Jobs kill Adobe Flash? - CNN.com "Flash is a spaghetti-ball piece of technology that has lousy performance and really bad security problems."
Steve Would Be Proud: How Apple Won The War Against Flash | TechCrunch Flash for Android briefly came and went.
Then Steve Jobs's famous 2010 Thoughts on Flash He listed what he considered 6 major problems.
1. Openness.
2. The Full Web.
3. Reliability, security, and performance.
4. Battery life.
5. User interface: "Touch".
6. Not taking full advantage of iOS.
#6 seems a bit like protectionism, and #5 represents something that Apple itself had overcome with Cocoa, creating the smartphone-friendly Cocoa Touch user-interface widgets. #3 and #4 are rather damning, suggesting either that Adobe's management doesn't consider those items high priorities, or else that Flash has some difficult-to-overcome architectural flaws. #2 is about Flash potentially being superfluous for online video, something that is now happening. About #1, SJ concedes that Apple has plenty of proprietary products, but prefers open standards about what's on the Internet.
Without video, Flash could retreat into being a platform for online animations and games. But even there, it may be possible for the HTML5-CSS-JavaScript troika to challenge it. HTML5 includes the "canvas" and "svg" elements, and both of them are usable for online animations and games.
Canvas: raster graphics, like a paint program
SVG: vector graphics, like a draw program (SVG = scalable vector graphics)
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02-06-2015, 03:17 AM
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I read some of your foolish scree, then just skimmed the rest.
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Re: YouTube goes HTML5, is leaving Adobe Flash behind
I don't like things installing themselves on my computer without asking.
Which means I seem to have to install a new Flash player every 5-7 days because a vulnerability has been detected. I just deleted 500MBs of Flash player installers, they're only 15MBs a piece!
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02-14-2015, 07:21 AM
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Re: YouTube goes HTML5, is leaving Adobe Flash behind
And those are just the installer downloader installer installer installers. The real code ends up a bit bigger.
The flash installer downloader installers seem to delete themselves these days, though. Which is actually pretty annoying when they fail to install the first time but disappear anyway.
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02-14-2015, 07:33 AM
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Re: YouTube goes HTML5, is leaving Adobe Flash behind
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I don't like things installing themselves on my computer without asking.
Which means I seem to have to install a new Flash player every 5-7 days because a vulnerability has been detected. I just deleted 500MBs of Flash player installers, they're only 15MBs a piece!
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Yup. 2 pieces of software I would love to see die are Flash and Acrobat. I don't have any technical issues with either, I hate them both because I can't seem to turn a computer on without having to update them. If I disable automatic updates then I get warnings my version is out of date so I really must update I am told or my computer will explode or something. Both are equally annoying to me.
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07-26-2017, 01:52 AM
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Re: YouTube goes HTML5, is leaving Adobe Flash behind
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07-26-2017, 02:23 AM
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Re: YouTube goes HTML5, is leaving Adobe Flash behind
It's a shame to see it go.
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07-26-2017, 10:13 AM
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Re: YouTube goes HTML5, is leaving Adobe Flash behind
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07-26-2017, 03:57 PM
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Re: YouTube goes HTML5, is leaving Adobe Flash behind
Oh great. Now what's going to save every one of us? HUH? DID ANYBORTY THINK OF THAT?
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07-26-2017, 04:17 PM
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Re: YouTube goes HTML5, is leaving Adobe Flash behind
A couple of weeks ago, I was talking to TLM when someone said "Math" and we both spontaneously did the "Aaa-aaaaah!"
So there's your answer.
Anyway, I will be dancing on the grave of Flash. I stopped using it entirely a good long time ago, so I can't see the videos on any of those janky local news sites that use it. Finally. I will be able to watch shitty, sensationalist videos on janky little local news sites!
Chumbys are Flash based (the only thing I don't like about them), so that might become a problem somewhere down the road, but we'll see.
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07-26-2017, 05:03 PM
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Re: YouTube goes HTML5, is leaving Adobe Flash behind
There was an Indian guy at a company I used to work for, called Prash (short for Prashant). It was routine for someone looking for him to call out (open plan office) "Prash?" and at least one other person to reply "Aa-aah!"
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07-26-2017, 05:17 PM
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Re: YouTube goes HTML5, is leaving Adobe Flash behind
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07-27-2017, 06:13 AM
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Re: YouTube goes HTML5, is leaving Adobe Flash behind
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I sometimes wonder how your mind works. Still, that was a nice bit of B Movie cheese accompanied by a catchy song.
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07-27-2017, 09:46 AM
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Re: YouTube goes HTML5, is leaving Adobe Flash behind
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I sometimes wonder how your mind works.
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07-27-2017, 05:17 PM
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Re: YouTube goes HTML5, is leaving Adobe Flash behind
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I sometimes wonder how your mind works.
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07-28-2017, 02:37 AM
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Re: YouTube goes HTML5, is leaving Adobe Flash behind
Wow. Joe, I didn't realize you had family on the board.
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