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Your claim here is now neither the sun nor the moon are actuality above the observers point of view.
That is not the claim of the round Earthers, you are a liar and a fraud.
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I presented an observation that you obviously can not explain with your model.

What you do with that information is up to you and your God.
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You are ignoring, or are ignorant of your model.
I am very familiar with the round Earth model and the Flat-Earth model, and I can see which is correct, the round Earth model is correct.
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Your claim here is now neither the sun nor the moon are actuality above the observers point of view.
That is not the claim of the round Earthers, you are a liar and a fraud.
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It only looks wrong to you because the apparent positions of the sun and moon are higher than they actually are, due to refraction.
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You guys really need to focus on your model and how the observation presented works with your model.

You are getting confused trying to use the observation to argue against some other model.

The problem in the observation is that your model does not have a valid explanation.
True fact ^^^
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I presented an observation that you obviously can not explain with your model.

What you do with that information is up to you and your God.
You have ignored any explanation that has been offered, and have clung to your flat-Earth model in spite of all the evidence offered against it.

God and I are very happy with the true round Earth model. Only a fool thinks otherwise.
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Yes you will, if you continue to contradict the truth.
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I am very familiar with the round Earth model
Guy, you clearly don't understand how your model works, and this question is about an observation which you are unable to explain with your model.

You are a believer.

Your first instinct is to attack some other model with the observation instead of using the observation to explain your model.

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I presented an observation that you obviously can not explain with your model.
Your observations have been explained, but you continue to ignore them.
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You have ignored any explanation that has been offered


I have explained to you why each and every of your absurd explanations continue to not work in your model.
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God does love you, God is real, the earth is not a spinning sphere.
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I have explained to you why each and every of your absurd explanations continue to not work in your model.
No you haven't, you have only offered your flat-Earth rubbish.
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the earth is not a spinning sphere.
On this fact and this fact alone, I absolutely agree with you!
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God does love you, God is real, the earth is not a spinning sphere.
The Old Testament is beautiful poetry, it is not a scientific text.
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the earth is not a spinning sphere.
On this fact and this fact alone, I absolutely agree with you!
Now back into the darkness for the lulz.
How do you describe the Earth?
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Yes you will, if you continue to contradict the truth.
There is no burning hell in reality, nor the bible, that is made up satanist nonsense used to scare people into religion.
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How do you describe the Earth?
A realm of some sort, idk for sure, but that is not the question at point.

The spinning globe earth is debunked by the observation presented.
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Your claim here is now neither the sun nor the moon are actuality above the observers point of view. The whole of the moon should be in shadow. It, according to your thought here, is completely hidden by the earth.

Do you not see how this makes the refraction claim cover a good 80% of the earth in sunlight, and still does not explain how the 'top' of the moon is in shadow?
You make no sense again.

Have you ever watched a lunar eclipse?
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You make no sense again.
I am relating your claims ... it is the globe believers that are not making sense with this observation.
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Have you ever watched a lunar eclipse?
I have, and a solar eclipse.

The point is the observation presented can not be explained with your globe model.

Observational science.
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How do you describe the Earth?
An Oblate Spheroid.
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I am relating your claims ...
No you're not. You might be trying to, but I don't know what you mean by "actuality above the observers point of view" nor why you think the moon should be in shadow, nor why refraction should bathe 80% of the earth in sunlight. These things do not follow from what I said.
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How do you describe the Earth?
Pear earth
That is not observed, its just the maths which make you believe in a pear shaped earth.
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You might be trying to, but I don't know what you mean by "actuality above the observers point of view"
Your words: "It only looks wrong to you because the apparent positions of the sun and moon are higher than they actually are, due to refraction."

What do you think you mean?

The sun and moon are 'apparently'/observed near the horizon, the sun being at the horizon by observation, thus by your words, both the sun and moon are in reality below the observer, thus below the horizon.
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