Should Canada and the U.S. tolerate an intolerant Islam?

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

Roughly the same as the benefits of most major organised religions. You get some nice architecture, a bit of charity, some truly inspired music (not to be underestimated!) and people who are daunted by the idea of mortality get a fuzzy warm feeling inside. It also keeps a bunch of unemployable priests off the street: if we have them sitting around with nothing to do they might get dangerous ideas.

All that available in easy installments: a crusade here, a shot-up birth control center there, a minor Jihad every now and again and perhaps the odd once-off witch burning. And of course regular easy payments of hate and divisiveness. Oh and tax breaks and in many countries direct contributions of government money.

20/20.

Regards
DL

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

[quote=Vivisectus;1244033]

Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop

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Yeah, that is WAY more stupid than thinking that God allowed the world to be made by mistake.

If we are going to have this kind of a conversation, lets discuss the REAL issue: Batman vs Spiderman, who would win?

Superman.

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DL

[Crumb]

Originally Posted by JoeP

Can anyone think of any benefits of GCB?

Not in the last 600 years.

[mickthinks]

GCB: Can anyone think of any benefits of Islam?
Mick: Algebra
GCB: Nothing in the last 600 years.

Algebra is still a benefit, even after all these years, dude. Are you seriously suggesting that the time that has passed since European civilisation got a leg-up from the Arabs wipes out the debt we owe them? I don't see why.

[Watser?]

Also coffee, which they used for late-night Quran studies. Still pretty big benefit to this day.

[Vivisectus]

So, without Islam no coffee and no computers? Damn. I should convert. Least I could do really. A significant portion of my life would be impossible without it.

[Ymir's blood]

Also conversion to Islam entitles you to the hatred of loathsome douche nozzles like Gnoxious Cryptic Bigot, so there's that.

[JoeP]

Conversion to Freethought confers the same benefit.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Originally Posted by mickthinks

GCB: Can anyone think of any benefits of Islam?
Mick: Algebra
GCB: Nothing in the last 600 years.

Algebra is still a benefit, even after all these years, dude. Are you seriously suggesting that the time that has passed since European civilisation got a leg-up from the Arabs wipes out the debt we owe them? I don't see why.

I agree that maths of all kinds are beneficial.

We owe others a lot more debt than we do Islam.

My main point was to wonder why Muslims do not seem to be keeping up with the rest of the world in term of producing intelligent thought.

Perhaps belief in imaginary Gods is a part of mental retardation.

Regards
DL

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Originally Posted by Watser?

Also coffee, which they used for late-night Quran studies. Still pretty big benefit to this day.

Have you tried coffee their way? Yuk.

Regards
DL

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Originally Posted by Ymir's blood

Also conversion to Islam entitles you to the hatred of loathsome douche nozzles like Gnoxious Cryptic Bigot, so there's that.

So trying to protect ones country and ideology is now to draw the label of bigot. Ok.

Nice to know that your ilk do not care about your nations ideology and the fact that Sharia is an opposite ideology that cannot stand beside democracy.

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DL

[Ymir's blood]

Your immediate association of ,"conversion to Islam," with Sharia Law is certainly enough to qualify you as a bigot.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Originally Posted by Ymir's blood

Your immediate association of ,"conversion to Islam," with Sharia Law is certainly enough to qualify you as a bigot.

Islam and Sharia go hand in glove.

Shove your name calling where it belongs. You accuse me of being what you are.

Regards
DL

[Vivisectus]

No, bigotry is where you attribute negative qualities to people based on their membership of a group such as an ethnicity or a religion. Which is what you are doing by pushing this narrative where Islamic immigrants are infiltrating nations and trying to impose sharia law. It is the exact same narrative that had people worried about Jewish conspiracies to subvert nations in the 19th and early 20th century - you should read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to see just how identical the story is.

Just like with the Jews at the end of the 19th century, I think we are just a bit scared of people that have been screwed over for ages, and that are nevertheless still there. So it is just easier to imagine them as part of some sinister global conspiracy. So much simpler to have 2 simple camps: the freedom-loving western democracies and the evil Muslim theocratic hordes. That way you don't have to bother actually finding out about the history of the different regions, the complicated family tree of religions that make up Islam, or how it happened that these freedom-loving democratic good guys have been backing dictators and regimes of the absolute worst kind, and are still happily drone-striking civilians to smithereens all over the middle east.

[Watser?]

Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop

Have you tried coffee their way? Yuk.

Regards
DL

Racist!

[Watser?]

Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop

Islam and Sharia go hand in glove.

Shove your name calling where it belongs. You accuse me of being what you are.

Regards
DL

So you are an idiot as well as a bigot. Fancy that.

Here is a map of what Islamic countries ACTUALLY apply sharia, either partially (yellow means in family law only), completely (purple), with regional variations (orange) or NOT AT ALL (green).

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

No, bigotry is where you attribute negative qualities to people based on their membership of a group such as an ethnicity or a religion. Which is what you are doing by pushing this narrative where Islamic immigrants are infiltrating nations and trying to impose sharia law. It is the exact same narrative that had people worried about Jewish conspiracies to subvert nations in the 19th and early 20th century - you should read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to see just how identical the story is.

Just like with the Jews at the end of the 19th century, I think we are just a bit scared of people that have been screwed over for ages, and that are nevertheless still there. So it is just easier to imagine them as part of some sinister global conspiracy. So much simpler to have 2 simple camps: the freedom-loving western democracies and the evil Muslim theocratic hordes. That way you don't have to bother actually finding out about the history of the different regions, the complicated family tree of religions that make up Islam, or how it happened that these freedom-loving democratic good guys have been backing dictators and regimes of the absolute worst kind, and are still happily drone-striking civilians to smithereens all over the middle east.

Are you suggesting that Islam is a moral religion?

For instance. Is their laws on apostasy moral when they demand the death of all apostates?

Regards
DL

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Originally Posted by Watser?

Racist!

Coffee is not a race and neither is Islam.

Regards
DL

[godfry n. glad]

Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop

Coffee is not a race and neither is Islam.

Regards
DL

Right, the term should have been "Bigot!"

[Watser?]

Also: Humour - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

the Protocols of the Elders of Zion

I saw on a wingnut YouTube vid featuring Pat Buchanan and Mark Steyn that Protocols is a Gnostic text.

[Ymir's blood]

Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop

Islam and Sharia go hand in glove.

Shove your name calling where it belongs. You accuse me of being what you are.

Regards
DL

I do shove it right where it belongs, in your bigoted face.

[Sauron]

Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop

Can anyone think of any benefits of Islam?

Regards
DL

Someone has clearly never heard of Islamic charities or the Red Crescent.

[SR71]

Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop

Coffee is not a race and neither is Islam.

Regards
DL

It's too big to be a space station.

[JoeP]

Originally Posted by Sauron

Someone has clearly never heard of Islamic charities or the Red Crescent.

Or has heard of such things just as much as anyone else, but is wilfully ignorant. (That's PC-speak for "a fucking dickhead".)