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Old 03-05-2017, 07:38 AM
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And I still don't know who or what to believe at this point. So I'll just lol @ Mike Pence.
Without knowing more it's a crapshoot guessing game, but I would put running your own server and AOL on about the same level, as below proper DOD security procedures.

E-mail is a pretty old standard, done right it can be quite secure. Having a team that knows what they are doing running a small e-mail server that's as secure as it can get isn't out of the question. It's recommended you, as the little guy, stick to large companies doing security as they have lots of eyes and experts looking over things, but that doesn't mean they are truly secure as the many hacks should show. Depending on the size of the e-mail server it could have the advantage of being able to easily flag unusual activity and throttle connection speeds.

In part it's a guessing game as we don't know if the sender had encryption enabled to begin with. Given our political leaders, the security breach could start at their tiny dumbass tweeting fingers.
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they just reflexively insist that anything supported by "Liberals" must be bad.
The GOP has managed to tap into what at it's base is tribalism, and often seen in sports. GO OAKLAND RAIDERS! FUCK YOU LA LAKERS! Why? Well the Raiders are here (well not for long, corporations don't have loyalty) and the Lakers aren't. So they're my team! I rub my lucky soccer ball 3 times clockwise every game to help them win! The Lakers face off against the Raiders to compete with the rest of the country, so I hate them! Er something like that. The details don't really matter, only that I identify enough with a team to feel like their wins are mine, which then makes it easier to justify whatever attempts at cheating my team makes, while condemning the other side for the same. I of course have no effect on the game whatsoever and don't even realize I'm getting swindled and pay twice for every ticket.

Now you get a group of people that feel like they are losing and can't deal with it and suddenly they will do all sorts of stupid things to feel like they are winners. Since of course the bottom line is politics is all about emotion and very little about facts.
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And I still don't know who or what to believe at this point. So I'll just lol @ Mike Pence.
Without knowing more it's a crapshoot guessing game, but I would put running your own server and AOL on about the same level, as below proper DOD security procedures.
I got a friend who's head of Network Security at a university, and in his estimation a private server is, his words, "infinitely worse". I don't know how much of that is hyperbole but given that he's had a fantastic record, I'm inclined to believe "is worse". I have two basic questions unanswered, and I don't care enough to dig, 1: Did Clinton have an IT team? Clearly a 60 something politician with a budget had an IT team and did not set up a server on her own, much less deal with zero day exploits and other evils. So I'm inclined to call that a virtual certainty. 2: Did the IT team have all the proper clearances? If not, why the HELL not, and if so, I'm still inclined to put weight on the opinion of my friend, even if all the hows and whys are way above my pay scale.

But neither of us are American, and even if we were we would have primaried for Sanders but voted Clinton because holy shit Trump. And it's lame that I even feel this disclaimer is necessary in order to hopefully head off a reactionary tangent.

And while I'm doing disclaimers I'd like to reiterate that in my experience so far, :ff: has been thankfully pretty good in the area of reactionary tangents.
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So Obama was using the power of government to spy on a presidential candidate during the campaign.
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So Trump was having sex with his daughter all along.
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And Russia has the video.
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The pee is about to hit the butt.
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...not that there's... anything wrong with that.
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I got a friend who's head of Network Security at a university, and in his estimation a private server is, his words, "infinitely worse". I don't know how much of that is hyperbole but given that he's had a fantastic record, I'm inclined to believe "is worse". I have two basic questions unanswered, and I don't care enough to dig, 1: Did Clinton have an IT team? Clearly a 60 something politician with a budget had an IT team and did not set up a server on her own, much less deal with zero day exploits and other evils. So I'm inclined to call that a virtual certainty. 2: Did the IT team have all the proper clearances? If not, why the HELL not, and if so, I'm still inclined to put weight on the opinion of my friend, even if all the hows and whys are way above my pay scale.
A reasonable amount of hyperbole and/or trust in giant corporations.

Security wise, many opsec experts use small 'private' e-mail services all the time in the form of anonymous email servers. In fact most use open source encryption and software for the specific reason they know what it's doing. You can never be sure with proprietary software, did they catch all the bugs? Did Russia, or more likely the NSA have them build a back door into everyone's account and then threaten them into silence? Ya don't know! and that's a big problem.

Which is why I put private server we know nothing about and AOL or proprietary server on the same level, we really don't know, we're just assuming everyone knows what they are doing. If her team was competent then a private server is more secure than AOL for the very reason we don't know how AOL does things.

To answer the second question, done right no one running the server should be able to read any of the emails on the server. So it just matters if they are trustable to do it right.
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Wow, now accusations Obama was wiretapping sitting US Senators.
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Hey Jerome, how's Trump's hunt for Obama's birth certificate going?
Did he really get to the bottom of it?
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Yea, its been shown to be a fake, they even found the original document that they used to copy/paste the Obama info onto.
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Of course they did. ;)
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So what are your thoughts on a president spying on his political opponents with government resources?
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Wow, now sources are saying Donald Trump also has been having sex with Mike Pence's daughters.
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This week’s theme was undoubtedly the continued taint of the Trump regime for their ties to Russia. For the first time since Election Day, Trump seems unable to drive the media storylines.
  1. Trump announced he would not attend the White House Correspondent’s Association dinner, amid growing tension with the media.
  2. Further to the stories on Priebus in Week 15 reaching out to the FBI, reports cited that Spicer made calls to the CIA, and Republican leaders Nunes and Burr, asking they discredit the NYT story about Russian ties.
  3. Before the investigation even begins, Nunes, the House Intelligence Committee chair, said he hasn’t found evidence of the Trump team’s ties to Russia.
  4. CREW filed under the FOIA to see communications between Priebus and the FBI.
  5. Trump accused Obama of being behind the town hall protests: “I think [Obama] is behind it. I also think it’s politics.”
  6. Early in the week, Trump pronounced, “I haven’t called Russia in 10 years,” a statement then thoroughly discredited by video clips of his numerous statements otherwise.
  7. In a NBC interview, former President George W. Bush said “we need answers” on Trump ties to Russia.
  8. Another Trump cabinet pick, Wilbur Ross, has deep ties to Russia, including investing more than $1 billion in the Bank of Cyprus, and becoming a vice chairman of the bank. Putin appointed the other vice chairman.
  9. Rachel Maddow reported the Bank of Cyprus also has ties to a Russian oligarch who helped Trump make a $60 million profit flipping a home in Florida he owned for just two years.
  10. As Trump continued his attacks on Sweden, O’Reilly booked a supposed Swedish ‘national security advisor’ for his Fox News show. After Swedish officials indicated this expert was not known, O’Reilly was forced to issue a watered-down apology. Since, Trump has stopped attacking Sweden.
  11. A massive wave of anti-Semitism continued, including two more cemeteries desecrated, and 31 threats against JCC’s in one day alone. The ADL has said anti-Semitism in the US is the worst since the 1930s.
  12. Seeming to follow David Duke’s lead, Trump said it could be Jews behind the rash of anti-Semitic attacks.
  13. Another mosque was burned down — the fourth in seven weeks.
  14. WAPO reported the FBI had once planned to pay the British spy behind the dossier, lending credibility to the contents.
  15. The Senate Intelligence Committee may call the British spy who gathered the information for the infamous dossier, to testify. If they can find him (he’s in hiding).
  16. The father of the SEAL killed in the failed Yemen raid told the Miami Herald he wants answers.
  17. Trump sought to blame the generals for the SEAL’s death.
  18. Trump also tried to blame Obama, saying he finished what Obama had started. This was refuted by a former aid, who said Obama had never approved the raid.
  19. NBC reported that despite Trump claims to the contrary, senior US officials said there was no significant intel yielded from the Yemen raid.
  20. Feinstein and other Dem senators demanded more information from the State Dept on China’s sudden decision to grant a trademark to the Trump organization. As noted in Week 14’s list, this occurred shortly after Trump declared his support of “One China” policy.
  21. Trump WH let Conway off the hook on an ethics investigation, saying she acted “inadvertently” in promoting Ivanka’s brand — despite recommendations by the OCE for discipline.
  22. Amid protests and ethics concerns, Donald Jr and Eric Trump cut the ribbon on a new hotel in Vancouver, built and financed by one of Malaysia’s richest families.
  23. A businesswoman who touts access to China, purchased a $16 million penthouse at Trump Park Avenue. Trump retains an economic interest in the property.
  24. Although an order to stay Trump’s Muslim Ban is in place, problems continued including Muhammad Ali Jr. being detained in a Florida airport, and French historian and expert on the Holocaust, Henry Russo, who was threatened with deportation while traveling to a discussion at Texas A&M.
  25. Stories continue to describe the State Department’s diminishing role. State Dept staff are being excluded from meeting with foreign leaders, leadership posts are going unfilled, and many employees are quitting. Trump also had threatened to slash the budget by one-third.
  26. The State Department has not held a single daily briefing under Tillerson. Daily briefings had been the norm since the 1950s. Limited daily briefings are set to begin next week.
  27. The State Department tweeted, then deleted, a congratulatory message to an Iranian director for winning an Oscar.
  28. Trump escalated his war on the media, telling Breitbart the NYT’s “intent is so evil and bad,” and that “they write lies.”
  29. Trump delivered a de facto SOTU speech, read from a teleprompter. Although his manner was mild, the content continued to be nationalistic and negative. The Center for American Progress said that of Trump 61 statements, 51 were false.
  30. Also refuting Trump’s SOTU, The Brennan Center for Justice noted, “Nationally, crime remains at the bottom of a 25-year downtrend, half of what it was at its peak in 1991. Last year, rates of overall crime fell for the 14th year in a row.”
  31. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg did not attend Trump’s SOTU, nor did Maxine Waters.
  32. The Democratic women of the House wore the white of the Suffragists at Trump’s SOTU to show support of women’s rights.
  33. Trump officials fed news outlets misinformation on a shift in Trump’s immigration plans — hinting the time might be right for an immigration bill — ahead of the SOTU. CNN reported Trump misled reporters to get positive coverage.
  34. The NYT reported that the Obama administration had rushed to preserve information on the Trump team’s ties to Russia, spreading it to government agencies.
  35. Also reported by the NYT: American allies, including the British and the Dutch, provided the Obama administration with information on meetings between Russian officials and the Trump regime in European cities.
  36. A bombshell story by WAPO reported that Sessions met with Russian ambassador twice, but did not disclose those meetings when asked during this Senate confirmation hearing.
  37. Sessions first spoke with Kislyak in Cleveland on July 18 — the same day the Trump campaign gutted the GOP’s platform of its anti-Russia stance on Ukraine. On July 23, WikiLeaks released stolen emails from the DNC.
  38. The WSJ reported that Sessions used campaign funds to pay for his trip to the RNC Convention, where he met the Russian ambassador.
  39. At a next day press conference, Sessions recused himself from Trump investigations, but during the campaign only.
  40. As the controversy continued, Sessions said he would submit an amended testimony to address Democratic senators’ questions.
  41. POLITICO reported that Trump adviser Carter Page also met with Kislyak at the RNC Convention. While in office, Harry Reid had asked Comey to investigate Carter, saying he was also meeting with “high ranking sanctioned individuals” in Moscow.
  42. Carter told MSNBC he had met with Kislyak, then seemed to backtrack on CNN to say he never spoke with him for more than 10 seconds.
  43. Kushner and Flynn also met with Kislyak at the Trump Tower in December. Of note, given the venue and people involved, this points to Trump having direct knowledge of the meeting.
  44. CNN reported that US Intelligence considers Kislyak to be one of Russia’s top spies and spy-recruiters in Washington.
  45. Kislyak did not attend the DNC Convention.
  46. Trump team forced Nikki Haley to fire career staffers who she had asked for advice on how to talk tough with Russia.
  47. A front page story in USA Today reported that emails released under a FOIA request to The Indianapolis Star, show Pence used personal email for state business while governor, including for sensitive matters and homeland security issues, and that his personal AOL account was hacked.
  48. The next day, Pence turned over 13 boxes of state-related emails to the Indiana statehouse — a step required by law.
  49. Trump’s transition team canceled planned training on ethics for his staff, appointees and Cabinet members.
  50. Rachel Maddow reported on a leaked DHS assessment document which indicates most US-based extremists radicalized years after entry into the US. These findings negate the main argument made by the Trump regime for their Muslim Ban, and may explain why they have yet to release the new version frequently promised to be coming soon.
  51. Inhumane round-ups by ICE continued, including a father of four US-born children who has lived here for 20 years, while dropping his kids off at school.
  52. A 22 year-old immigrant was detained by ICE moments after a press conference. She was 7 when her family moved to the US from Argentina, placing her under DACA immigration policy.
  53. Spicer was reported to be checking his staff phones for leaks.
  54. Reuters reported on stepped up efforts by the Trump regime to plug leaks, including Mnuchin using his first senior staff meeting to inform his aides that he would not tolerate leaks.
  55. Top talent continues to leave the already thinly staffed executive branch over poor morale and fear of Trump.
  56. FP reported that the Trump WH is considering using high-end security software for WH networks in an effort to stop leaks.
  57. Schwarzenegger quit The Celebrity Apprentice, citing too much “baggage” — a clear shot at Trump. Trump continues his role as Executive Producer of the show (which we’ve normalized!).
  58. Trump fired back via Twitter this next day claiming Schwarzenegger was fired because of low ratings. Schwarzenegger told him to hire a fact checker.
  59. As stories continued all week about Trump and his team’s ties to Russia, offering no proof, Trump accused Obama of wiretapping phones in Trump Tower, tweeting, “This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!”
  60. As the week closed out, Trump yet again headed to Mar-a-Lago for the weekend, after leaving the WH at 3 p.m. on Friday. Trump has yet to visit Camp David.


Some Things We’ve Already Normalized:
  • Trump’s sons are continuing to conduct business from which Trump has a direct economic benefit.
  • Our executive branch is vastly understaffed, and Trump and his regime seem to make little effort at hiring (consolidation of power).
  • Our media (some) continue to push the notion of a Trump “reset,” and seek to normalize Trump and his regime.
  • Comey continues to NOT cooperate with Congress in hearings. We also do not know the status of the DOJ inquiry into Comey and the FBI, and whether this has been allowed to continue under Sessions
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Did you realize your source is a bunch of high level bankers?

lol @ how easily the weak minded become useful idiots for the elite class
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...but the hoi polloi ended up in office! Coming soon from the creators of legally blonde 4: Lassy goes to college a sharp political comedy with heart...

We are all suffering because somewhere there's a Meg Ryan character falling in love with some goofy architect and they needed the backdrop of her losing healthcare and her maid being deported to finally come together. At some point it gets a little dark as it's feared she's shot when the militarized police open fire at a peaceful protest, but it turns out to be some other random chick no one cares about and they are reunited one minute before curfew. The protest never matters again, (in reality it turns into a huge deal after protestors are vanished in the system but no official will take questions about it.)
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Trump is incredibly ‘p*ssed off’ no one believes his Obama 'wiretaps' story, says adviser

I think he's mad. Just a wee perturbed. Maybe even cranky.
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You know what, I'm not done with this. The person who sent me that, I wrote back to them:

[10:52:17 PM] Me: This is a typical, average, normal abusive dad.
[10:52:26 PM] Me: This is why 'people like him'.
[10:52:32 PM] Friend: President Daddy
[10:52:47 PM] Me: He's ringing their familiar buttons but now abusive dad will make everything better.
[10:53:04 PM] Friend: "Only I can fix it"
[10:53:35 PM] Me: It's seriously, literally, the nation going through a middle aged crisis of still trying to be good enough for daddy, they'll get it right this time. Seriously, a nation of childhood trauma.
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I just realized something this morning. I think Trump has broken my unhealthy fascination with crap.
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my unhealthy fascination with crap.
I've seen a lot of your photos, but I don't remember any like this ...
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Trump should know OBAMA NEVER LEFT THE WHITE HOUSE! He's in the closet! HE HAS SCISSORS!
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Hey everyone look at Donald Trump!

Meanwhile:
1. HR 861 Terminate the Environmental Protection Agency
2. HR 610 Vouchers for Public Education
3. HR 899 Terminate the Department of Education
4. HJR 69 Repeal Rule Protecting Wildlife
5. HR 370 Repeal Affordable Care Act
6. HR 354 Defund Planned Parenthood
7. HR 785 National Right to Work (this one ends unions)
8. HR 83 Mobilizing Against Sanctuary Cities Bill
9. HR 147 Criminalizing Abortion (“Prenatal Nondiscrimination Act”)
10. HR 808 Sanctions against Iran
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