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Old 10-24-2018, 02:43 PM
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I am going to go ahead and predict that the Repubs will keep the senate. And that they will not even lose congress.

I have the feeling the general disillusionment with established politics is still strong enough to keep turnouts low enough in all the places where it matters, despite the growing evidence that nationalistic populism is not a viable alternative, and is even downright dangerous. I think that what we have been and are still seeing is a crisis of relevance: people do not feel they have any real skin in the game. They will vote along tribal lines, and they will vote according to topical issues they may care about, if they vote at all.

At the same time the firehose-effect of all these different sources pumping out vast amounts of a mix of actual and false information is making people feel like there is no objective, dependable information at all. That there is no real difference between Trumps blatant lies and a well-researched piece of journalism. In the end they will simply opt to believe what appeals to them the most, and this will hamper a unified response while not hampering Trumps message in the slightest.

I suspect turnouts will be better, but not that much, and that the increased turnouts will be there on both sides. I do not think enough young people will vote to make a decisive difference.

I do not think it will impact where it matters, and that the populist dogwhistles, strongman posturing and reactionary signalling is liked by a large enough minority to keep recent events from changing much. And that the rest just doesn't care enough to provide them with a concerted counter-push.

I think this will provide enough encouragement to Trump and his enablers for them to double down on the tactics that worked for them: a shameless disregard for accepted political norms, blatant appeals to racism, nationalism, a strong reactionary message where minority rights and women's rights are concerned, disregard for ethics and anti-corruption rules, scapegoating of political groups and immigrants, scaremongering about these same groups, undermining the press, even more blatant voter suppression, and a continuous muddying of the waters without any real accountability to facts. Also tax breaks, because deficit schmeficit and he can always let the republicans cut social security and the like.

And I think he will be able to do it, because while the majority disagrees with Trump, not enough of them give enough fucks. The US is going to get the government it deserves, and it is going to suck. It may even get properly dangerous.
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GOP isn't losing the senate - I fully expect they will expand their margin.

I have not seen much reason to believe in the existence of a blue wave at all, other than maybe I would very much like for it to be a real thing. A generic ballot lead is nice and all but Republicans don't draw house districts to make sure the will of the voter is translated into representation.
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The GOP will likely gain ground in the Senate. The final tally figures to be at least 52-48, and could go as high as 56-44. Taking back the House is the only hope of slowing things down at the federal level. If that doesn't happen, we're reduced to hoping for complete self-immolation by those in power, something along the lines of what happened when the Klan took over the state government of Indiana in the 1920s.

Meanwhile, we're seeing reports today that Obama, Hillary Clinton, George Soros and others received "suspicious packages" that may have contained explosives. The GOP appears to have has its own Einsatzgruppen.
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Old 10-25-2018, 01:19 AM
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A suspect has been arrested in the pipe bombings, and my immediate reaction was to quote Archer.




“Dude, this van’s like rolling probable cause.”


So not merely are the writers still incapable of subtlety, but they’re stealing ideas from some of the best animated comedies now. Can we please fire them and get some new ones already?
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I am going directly to hell for loling at "MAGA Mystery Machine."
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Seems like the opposition is disappearing all of my neighbor's yard signs and replacing them with McArthur's. Just my personal observation, but it's noticeable to me.

In other news, I don't know if Menedez will be able to pull this out or not. Most voters who vote for him will be doing so only because he won't be voting with Republicans. His opponent Hugin is a slimeball in his own right. Definitely a choice between two disgusting alternatives.

Hugin's latest hit ad says Menendez is pedo. I don't know how true it is but if Menendez does win this will show how deeply unpopular Trump is and nothing more.
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I don't think there's much evidence supporting that pedo ad: Bob Menendez - Wikipedia

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In November 2012, the conservative political news and opinion website Daily Caller published allegations that Menendez had contact with underage prostitutes in the Dominican Republic. [...] On March 18, 2013 police in the Dominican Republic announced that three women had said they had been paid $300–425 each to lie about having had sex with Menendez. (WaPo link)
If Hugin is using a rerun fabricated charge from 2012, it probably is not an indication of confidence. If he were up, he'd probably be running more positive stuff + hitting Menendez on the corruption. But since Trump is so unpopular in NJ, it's harder for him to run on GOP policy and such per se. Switching to these discredited allegations means that Menendez's corruption isn't enough to get him over the hump. That is, all the people who were going to flip due to Menendez's corruption have already flipped and he's still behind by 7 pts or so... so he needs something more.
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At least the pedo stuff looks like balogna. Checked a Washington Post story and it backs that as well as confirming my memory of all the stuff with the Florida eye doctor, all of which reeks to me.

Menendez' big hit pieces are that Hugin is a pharma bigshot who overcharged outrageously for certain meds and of course that he's tied at the hip with Derp Fuhrer, which he certainly would be if elected.

Hope he wins, though I'll be holding my nose when I pull the lever. Hope neighbor Andy wins too. Sign swiping is childish and slimy.
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It could be that this year will bring some new blood into NJ's House delegation that could give Menendez a strong primary challenge in 2024... That would be the hope anyway.
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Prediction: that will be ruled illegal by presidential* edict or something.
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Georgia governor race: Poll shows Stacey Abrams and Brian Kemp nearly tied in - CBS News

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At least the writers of this season haven’t lost their sense of irony.




…also, this:



…I guess the previous posts discussing this were in another thread. Oh well.
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…I guess the previous posts discussing this were in another thread. Oh well.
Meh, this whole preposterous saga has so many moving parts there's room to go over multiple aspects of the same items.

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