This Just in! Vaccines STILL Do Not Cause Autism

[F-X]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

Thanks, I thought of it when I saw the mercury hanging out there on the right being all badass.

That is great. Every time I see a mercury atom I now thing of as being all badass.

[Ensign Steve]

[F-X]

[F-X]

[erimir]

Originally Posted by F-X

The fallacy is he is talking about sodium chloride, ordinary salt. But he, (as well as a lot of other people) thinks that -
every atom of table salt has a chlorine atom in it.

He thinks that the chloride ion is the same as dichlorine.

Well, although seebs incorrectly referred to NaCl as "an atom"* (as The Lone Ranger explained), referring to a chlorine atom can't possibly be referring to dichlorine, which is a molecule composed of two chlorine atoms.

*if you have one Na atom and one Cl atom together, it's not technically a molecule either, since it's an ionic compound, and as such doesn't necessarily have distinct little Na-Cl pairs in the way that say, carbon dioxide gas is composed of distinct CO2 molecules, which are held together by covalent bonds

The mistake is confusing a sodium ion Na+ with metallic sodium, Na2

There is no such thing as Na2.

For someone deriding others for supposedly lacking basic chemistry knowledge, you ought to know that atoms of metals don't typically form covalent bonds with each other. There is nothing that is commonly referred to as "Na2", there's just Na.

We can listen to people insist that NaCl is the same as Na2 and Cl2 until the end of time.

Nobody has insisted that (even ignoring the fact that nobody but you would refer to Na2 in the first place).

Originally Posted by F-X

It was exactly normal concentrations of chloride ions that was mentioned.

When? By who? Please point it out specifically, preferably with a link (or a quoted post that thus links) to the original post. Because you just pulled that out of your ass.

[godfry n. glad]

An ionic compound?

...Are you sure it's not a doric compound?

It certainly doesn't look complex enough to be a corinthian compound.

[F-X]

Originally Posted by erimir

When? By who? Please point it out specifically, preferably with a link (or a quoted post that thus links) to the original post.

It was you. Did you forget already? You started it.

[Crumb]

So no link?

[erimir]

Originally Posted by F-X

It was you. Did you forget already? You started it.

And where did I say that?

You can't point it out, because I never said that in the first place.

[Doctor X]

Originally Posted by Crumb

So no link?

Apparently not.

He has descended to argumentum ad arrisium, which, as we all know, is just one step above quoting Youtube. . . .

--J.D.

[LadyShea]

Where did erimir say that? Are you outright lying F-X or did you misread something?

[Plant Woman]

I saw this first thing this morning and immediately thought about this thread.

[Doctor X]

Whereas whenever he posts a similar image comes to mind. . . .



--J.D.

[Plant Woman]

[Doctor X]

Originally Posted by Plant Woman

--J.D.

[seebs]

FX, you are sort of making my point here. "Chlorine" is in fact highly toxic and works as an antiseptic. However, *other materials may be made from it*. Those materials may have wildly different properties.

Do you know why "salt in the wound" hurts? Because salt is lethal. Except that you need some of it to survive.

If you want to argue that a particular mercury compound is harmful, you have to argue it based on the actual properties of that particular material, not off the general traits of elemental mercury.

[F-X]

I don't have to argue anything. The toxicity of every mercury compound, as well as the compounds they are metabolized to in living organisms, is already common knowledge.

Speaking of, my rat friend clued me to some animal studies on thimerosal. He also thinks he might have the swine flu.

The good news, is that at the moment, the current version isn't very deadly. The bad news, they just reported the shortages of vaccines is going to last until at least December.

[F-X]

thimerosal and vaccines in mice study

[erimir]

Originally Posted by erimir

And where did I say that?

You can't point it out, because I never said that in the first place.

[F-X]

Originally Posted by F-X

But, this is way beyond off topic and annoying, so if you, or anybody else, wants to continue arguing with science and facts, start a topic.

Originally Posted by F-X

But at this point, it's not even beating a dead horse, it's chainsawing it into chunks and flinging them into the audience.

If I don't stop, I am going to have to ban myself.

[Naru]

[Dingfod]

Originally Posted by F-X

I don't have to argue anything. The toxicity of every mercury compound, as well as the compounds they are metabolized to in living organisms, is already common knowledge.

Originally Posted by F-X

thimerosal and vaccines in mice study

That mice thimerosal study there doesn't really back up your contention in regard to toxicity, even at 10 times the vaccine amount.

[erimir]

Originally Posted by F-X

So is that your excuse for why you're not going to back up your statement?

All you have to do is quote the post where I said that. But you won't, because you know you were lying when you said it.

Troll.

[mickthinks]

Originally Posted by erimir

When? By who? Please point it out specifically, preferably with a link (or a quoted post that thus links) to the original post. Because you just pulled that out of your ass.

No, I think that was pulled out of yours.

Originally Posted by erimir

Sprinkling NaCl (i.e. table salt) on your food is just fine.

Do you sprinkle abnormal concentrations of chloride ions on your food, erimir? Because I'm sure I don't.

[LadyShea]

Originally Posted by F-X

thimerosal and vaccines in mice study

That study says

Originally Posted by The Study linked above

Considered together the present results do not indicate pervasive developmental neurotoxicity following vaccine-level thimerosal injections in SJL mice, and provide little if any support for the hypothesis that thimerosal exposure contributes to the etiology of neurodevelopmental disorders.

So what was your point in posting it? Just a data point? No opinion or thoughts on it?