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Old 03-09-2017, 03:30 PM
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So apart from the parts were Obama was supposed to have ordered it illegally, and that it was supposedly Trump tower that was bugged, and that it was Russians being wiretapped, the rest was all true!

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Old 03-09-2017, 03:45 PM
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Strange that it is widely reported that the Obama administration requested twice FISA warrants to wire tap Trump, the first being denied in July, and the second being granted in October.

The fake news is tripping over itself talking out of both sides of its mouth.
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Who requested the warrant, Jerome?
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The site has previously been shown that Snopes is full of shit regarding political stories. Thus for you to use them as a source shows you have no interest in facts and truth.
I'm about 95% sure that you specifically know this already, and are just repeating bullshit in order to perpetuate it. But I'll just point out that for the most part, and in this case specifically, Snopes is just a shortcut. They're not doing any research you couldn't do yourself. They cite their sources, and you can look at them yourself and see that the claims in those two articles are completely different things.

And, of course, if you've been following those stories, you'd already know that. I could see a reasonably informed person being confused if this were something that happened several years ago, but these are current, ongoing events that came up in recent WEEKS, and it's pretty telling that people are so grossly uninformed about actual current events that any of them wouldn't just know that without fact checking.

The whole "Snopes is a liberal propaganda machine" argument is kind of ridiculous. They don't just go around issuing proclamations. In most cases, they're just putting the information in one place where you can refer to it. Anyone who tells people not to trust Snopes is just trying to convince other low-information people to stay uninformed.
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But pea, "information" is liberal propaganda by definition.
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Old 03-09-2017, 06:54 PM
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Snopes outright lies:

FACT CHECK: Did Democrats Refuse to Stand for a Navy SEAL's Widow?

There is video evidence that anyone can look at themselves to see its an outright lie. Anyone watching it could see it is a lie. In fact, whilst watching with my daughters, my youngest asked why those people were not standing and clapping...

Snopes is used to propagandized low information people with false information.
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Old 03-09-2017, 06:56 PM
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They don't just go around issuing proclamations.


Notice I used their proclamation symbol to debunk your foolish claim.

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I can admit when I'm wrong, Jerome. Maybe you really are stupid enough to believe this stuff.
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The site has previously been shown that Snopes is full of shit regarding political stories. Thus for you to use them as a source shows you have no interest in facts and truth.
The whole "Snopes is a liberal propaganda machine" argument is kind of ridiculous.
While risking the edges of mansplaining, also known as: Not propaganda, no propaganda, YOU'RE the propaganda!

From a two bit hack of a propaganist book huckster.
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Who requested the warrant, Jerome?
Obviously someone in the executive branch.

This obfuscation is as silly as saying Bush didn't kill anyone in Iraq.
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I mean he'll never reach the heights of Hubbard. Sad!
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Old 03-10-2017, 09:11 AM
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Who requested the warrant, Jerome?
Obviously someone in the executive branch.

This obfuscation is as silly as saying Bush didn't kill anyone in Iraq.
Nope. It was the FBI, Jerome. The same FBI that was handily dropping bits of news about Clinton that really messed up her campaign.

So - Obama, who controls the FBI, was simultaneously trying to making sure Clinton did not win AND ordering wiretaps on Trump to also sabotage his campaign. And all the people I mentioned are also all in the same fascist gang.

Can we have some sort of diagram or flowchart of all your conspiracies, Jerome?
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Old 03-10-2017, 10:29 AM
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I posted in wrong thread. Funny, but wrong.
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Old 03-10-2017, 03:41 PM
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lol, the FBI shielded Clinton from her crimes, it was her crimes that made her look bad to the electorate.
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You never hear about billionaires stealthily trying to conjure up a constitutional convention. I've been hearing about this for at least two years on non MSM news. I think it's a real thing, there is really a scheme to gain enough state power to rewrite the constitution.

If I'm right and the MSM is completely missing the story, then they suck. It's possible they actually do cover the story from time to time, but I just missed it. I don't really read the major papers or news magazines like I used to.

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A few years ago, it would have been a thought experiment; now it's nearly reality. Billionaires and the groups they fund are working to rewrite our Constitution to provide corprations and the rich with more and more protections and benefits, and chop away at anything smelling of “socialism” like Social Security or child labor laws.

The fact is that they're just a few states away from meeting their goal, and have already held dress rehearsals in Washington D.C.—with representatives from all 50 states—for a Constitional Convention that would change America forever.
This seems like it ought to be large news to me, but yeah...
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Alexandra Petri nails the media’s fixation with victim-blaming (specifically in response to the United Airlines story, but there is a long tradition of such pieces):

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Crucified man had prior run-in with authorities

The gentleman arrested Thursday and tried before Pontius Pilate had a troubled background.

Born (possibly out of wedlock?) in a stable, this jobless thirty-something of Middle Eastern origin had had previous run-ins with local authorities for disturbing the peace, and had become increasingly associated with the members of a fringe religious group. He spent the majority of his time in the company of sex workers and criminals.

He had had prior run-ins with local authorities — most notably, an incident of vandalism in a community center when he wrecked the tables of several licensed money-lenders and bird-sellers. He had used violent language, too, claiming that he could destroy a gathering place and rebuild it.

At the time of his arrest, he had not held a fixed residence for years. Instead, he led an itinerant lifestyle, staying at the homes of friends and advocating the redistribution of wealth.

He had come to the attention of the authorities more than once for his unauthorized distribution of food, disruptive public behavior, and participation in farcical aquatic ceremonies.

Some say that his brutal punishment at the hands of the state was out of proportion to and unrelated to any of these incidents in his record.

But after all, he was no angel.
The comments are evidently full of people who didn’t get the joke. I personally have no desire to get out of the boat and see for myself.
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Fox News, while still completely horrible, seems to be trending in the direction of getting marginally less horrible than it used to be. By contrast, CNN is getting consistently worse. Case in point below.

I'm not sure why Jeffrey Lord remains employed. Also, some of the other commentators' faces can no doubt be adapted as useful reaction images.
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"Fake News" site Naked Capitalism:

United Passenger "Removal": A Reporting and Management Fail | naked capitalism

Yeah, the United flight wasn't "overbooked" and the press needs to stop saying that. It should also look up the actual regulations United flies under, and the story of Dr. Dao becomes much, much worse for United.
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Sean Hannity Eyes Fox News Exit, Insiders Say - Daily Beast

Already in the past year, we've seen the departure of:
sexual predator Roger Ailes
Bill Shine (executive and sexual harassment enabler)
sexual predator Bill O'Reilly

Greta van Susteren

Megyn Kelly
Gretchen Carlson
Andrea Tantaros
(the latter three having alleged sexual harassment)

Reportedly Murdoch's sons, who seem to be, at the very least, not hard right, are taking much more control over the channel. So I'm wondering if we're about to see Fox News reinvented as a more mainstream news channel... Certainly it's had the most turnover of the cable news channels in the past year.

Jesse Watters (O'Reilly buddy of racist "man on the street" interview fame) also seems to be on thin ice. Seemingly due to a mildly racy comment about Ivanka, but who knows, maybe as part of remaking the channel.

On the other hand, Tucker Carlson has gotten O'Reilly's spot, and Carlson might not be quite as loathsome as O'Reilly or Hannity, but he's still a piece of shit.

Meanwhile, MSNBC is doing stupid shit like considering giving conservative shitheel Hugh Hewitt his own show, even as Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes are apparently getting some of their best ratings ever.

Seems likely that the mainstream media will continue to suck, but I guess it would have to count as an improvement if Fox News became more like CNN, even though CNN mostly sucks.
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Zero Democracy ⬋⬋⬋ on Twitter: "Fuck you, CNN. Fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you- https://t.co/EGdO5r7VAr"

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lol, that was worth logging on for.
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