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Old 12-14-2012, 11:46 PM
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This could have been prevented if Jesus was allowed in schools.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:51 PM
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Also, this could have been prevented if we kept prayer in the schools.


Actually, it's far more repulsive than even the normal disgusting shit from fundies in that vein. He's not saying that godlessness led to immorality which led to a shooting.

No.

Since we don't pray in schools, God didn't intervene to save those children. God doesn't go where he's not wanted. So as children are being shot at...

God says "I could save them... I normally would save them... but since teachers don't lead students in state-sanctioned prayer, I'll let them die."
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:56 PM
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"I'm sorry Mr. Fischer, you seem to have the word 'god' confused with 'petty narcissistic fuckwad'."
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:58 PM
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Unsurprisingly, the God that Fischer created in his own image and likeness is petty, mean-spirited, vindictive and self-centered on the grandest of scales. By worshiping such a God, ol' Bryan is worshiping himself.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:59 PM
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Fer Fucks Sake.

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I do think, though, that gun control (which I actually have a rather moderate stance on) is a lesser issue than the elephant in the room, which no one seems willing to address: Our dismal mental health care system. It's actually not true that the mentally ill are more likely to attack others (they're also more likely to be attacked than they are to attack others, by a fairly substantial margin). But the simple fact is that well-adjusted people do not generally go on killing sprees, and if we actually did a good job getting people the help they needed when they needed it, things like this would probably be a much less frequent occurrence.

More to come later, possibly; I have to leave for dinner right now.
Mental illness occurs in every country. And sometimes the mentally ill in other countries go on a rampage as well. Guess the one minor difference between the US rampage and the Chinese one.
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:12 AM
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petty, mean-spirited, vindictive and self-centered on the grandest of scales. .
I like that God
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:16 AM
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Of course you do. :pat:

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Old 12-15-2012, 01:21 AM
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I don't intend to read an article from Alternet

I just want to point out the funniest of all things: both Ayn Rand and Murray Rothbard proved that racism is a collective idea so liberals,who are the most collectivistic of all,are by definition the most racists...you need somestep-by-step logical implications but the result is clear

think about that
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Wow, man. That's, like, mind-blowing, man. Get the fuck out of this thread, you selfish, ignorant sack of shit.
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:26 AM
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petty, mean-spirited, vindictive and self-centered on the grandest of scales. .
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As much as you like your parents' money?
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God says "I could save them... I normally would save them... but since teachers don't lead students in state-sanctioned prayer, I'll let them die."
If you've ever read the Hebrew Bible, this isn't that weird. Yahweh is a dick*.

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Mental illness occurs in every country. And sometimes the mentally ill in other countries go on a rampage as well. Guess the one minor difference between the US rampage and the Chinese one.
They don't lose the capacity for rational thought and demonize knives and agricultural implements, for one.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:00 AM
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It was all I could do today to not leave work and go hug my kid. I am barely not crying even now
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:40 AM
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I hear you, I had to keep from crying at work all day today. I can all too well imagine what losing your only child would be like, I'm sure the reality would be worse.
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Old 12-15-2012, 05:59 AM
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Seems to me the shooters brother has grounds to sue the shit out of somebody

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Old 12-15-2012, 06:15 AM
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I just want to point out the funniest of all things: both Ayn Rand and Murray Rothbard proved that racism is a collective idea
LOL
No they did not.

Since your premise is broken, the rest of your comment is likewise wrong.
You need some step-by-step logical implications but the result is clear.

Think about that.

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Old 12-15-2012, 06:27 AM
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Hey Qing , do you plan to talk to your kid about this, and if so, how?
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I will only talk to him about it if he hears about it. PBS had a pretty good account of how you can talk to kids about disasters in general. It's gives guidelines on how to talk about subjects with regards to age and interest.

Talking With Kids About News . PBS Parents | PBS

He's already pretty anxious. I don't need to give him another reason to feel anxious about school.
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:57 AM
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A little late for this disaster, but I'm sure it will be relevant again at some point:

A Terrible Thing Happened

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Sherman Smith saw the most terrible thing happen. At first he tried to forget about it, but soon something inside him started to bother him. He felt nervous for no reason. Sometimes his stomach hurt. He had bad dreams. And he started to feel angry and do mean things, which got hi m in trouble. Then he met Ms. Maple, who helped him talk about the ter rible thing that he had tried to forget. Now Sherman is feeling much b etter. This gently told and tenderly illustrated story is for childre n who have witnessed any kind of violent or traumatic episode, includi ng physical abuse, school or gang violence, accidents, homicide, suici de, and natural disasters such as floods or fire. An afterword by Sash a J. Mudlaff written for parents and other caregivers offers extensive suggestions for helping traumatized children, including a list of oth er sources that focus on specific events.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:25 AM
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A Word from LeVar: Talking with our children about the elementary school shootings « Â*Reading Rainbow Blog

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Parents and teachers and caregivers should not shy away from directly discussing this with children who are concerned or anxious or fearful. Let them know their fear is normal, that it’s OK to be sad on behalf of those who died, and even frightened that it may happen to them. Then we must explain how they themselves are safe. That the gunman who caused this incident is no longer a threat to anyone. Tell them that their teachers and principals work every day to make sure their schools are safe, then as quickly as possible, get back to your normal routine! Be aware that for some kids they may never think about this again, while others may have nightmares or manifest their anxiety in other ways. Both are normal reactions.

Our children rely on us to help them define the world they live in, and at the same time they have razor sharp radar for when the truth is being hidden from them. Being honest with them, respecting when they want to talk and when they don’t, accepting their reactions as “appropriate” no matter what they are, and then returning to your family’s routine is the best we can do during these media fueled, tragedies.
I don't know what specifically qualifies LVB to lecture on this topic, but he was on Reading Rainbow, and that's good enough for me! :thumbup:

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‎When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, 'Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping.'

To this day, especially in times of 'disaster,' I remember my mother's words and I am always comforted by realizing that there are still so many helpers – so many caring people in this world.
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Kiddo is an anxious kid too, and I don't know what to do. I don't want him to hear about it from someone else though.
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OMG This is all in one short article
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said Adam Lanza had Asperger’s syndrome. He had a personality disorder, AP reported, citing a law-enforcement official briefed on the investigation.

Lanza was intelligent, quiet and awkward, Tambascio said.

Mark Tambascio, her 45-year-old son, said Lanza was introverted.

“He couldn’t deal with regular people,” Mark Tambascio said. “He was kind of a sociopath.”

Catherine Urso, a Newtown resident and piano teacher, said her son Nicholas went to Newtown High School with Adam Lanza. She said she used to see Adam dressed in Gothic garb.
It's like a contest to see how many speculative motives/warning signs/reasons they can fit into a few paragraphs
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This morning must have been horrible for the families of those children. This time of year, they probably have Christmas presents wrapped under the tree that will never be opened.

My heart goes out to them.
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Lanza was intelligent, quiet and awkward, Tambascio said.
Makes you wonder why Silicon Valley doesn't have 2 or 3 of these a month then; with all the computer geeks there.

I bet if you were to look at all gun homicides, 1/2 or more were done by people who were ignorant, loud, outgoing, assholes.
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