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08-30-2017, 04:20 PM
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Re: North American Solar eclipse 8/21/2017
I am very skeptical of that story. It's based on an account of something someone supposedly told an unnamed source (so a friend-of-a-friend story, but not even attributed), and it's just a little too jokey.
I'm not saying it's 100% not true, but it has all the earmarks of an urban legend.
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08-30-2017, 04:29 PM
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Re: North American Solar eclipse 8/21/2017
*eyemarks
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08-30-2017, 09:57 PM
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happy now, Mussolini?
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Re: North American Solar eclipse 8/21/2017
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08-30-2017, 11:12 PM
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Safety glasses off, motherfuckers
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Re: North American Solar eclipse 8/21/2017
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of course during a solar eclipse it is the side of the Moon that always faces Earth that is dark. People often use the term 'dark side' to refer to the Moon's far side - the side that faces away from Earth that we never normally see. But here I'm using "dark side" to correctly refer to the side not lit up by the Sun.
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There is no dark side of the moon, really. Matter of fact, it’s all dark.
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08-31-2017, 01:16 AM
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Re: North American Solar eclipse 8/21/2017
I would say that, at any moment in time, half the moon (the side facing away from the sun) is dark - in just the same way that the half the earth facing away from the sun is dark - what we call night.
When the moon is new (as seen from earth) it's between the earth and the sun, so the dark side isn't so very dark as it's lit up by earthlight. When the moon is full (as seen from the earth) then the dark side is very dark - it's only lit up by the starlight and (if they're above the horizon) the outer planets.
So what we correctly call the 'far side' - the side of the moon never seen from earth - does get darker than the near side. Although it's confusing and mostly wrong, there is some slight truth in calling the far side, 'the dark side'.
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09-04-2017, 11:32 PM
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Re: North American Solar eclipse 8/21/2017
IIRC, the surface of the moon is roughly the color of volcanic ash, dark gray, and about as reflective.
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09-05-2017, 12:25 AM
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Re: North American Solar eclipse 8/21/2017
Yup. The Moon's average albedo is 0.12; the maria are darker, whereas the lunar uplands are somewhat lighter. Despite the variability, even the "brightest" parts of the Moon's surface are actually rather dark gray in color. (Some of the upland areas have an albedo of 0.16 or so, whereas the maria and the floors of some craters can have albedos down to 0.06 or so.) For comparison, black paint has an albedo of around 0.05, and aged asphalt has an albedo of about 0.1 - 0.12 (freshly-poured asphalt has an albedo of about 0.04 - 0.05). So, on average, the Moon reflects about as much light as does asphalt; it only looks relatively bright because there's nothing else in the night sky that can reflect or emit anywhere near as much light to us.
By contrast, the Earth has an average albedo of about 0.33, but there's a very wide range. Conifer forests have an albedo of around 0.04 - 0.05, while fresh snow has an albedo of 0.8 - 0.9. (That's comparable to the albedo of a mirror, which is generally 0.72 - 0.85.)
Venus' average albedo is an astonishing 0.76, by the way. It reflects light in the visible part of the spectrum better than do many mirrors. (This is because the surface of Venus is completely obscured by highly reflective clouds.)
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09-05-2017, 05:11 PM
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Re: North American Solar eclipse 8/21/2017
The Moon's apparent brightness was the inspiration of Hanns Hoerbiger's Cosmic Ice Theory, a crackpot cosmology that stated that the Moon is covered with ice.
I could describe it in another thread.
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09-14-2017, 12:38 PM
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Re: North American Solar eclipse 8/21/2017
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09-18-2017, 02:22 AM
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Re: North American Solar eclipse 8/21/2017
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That photo is just wrong, there shouldn't be stars visible on the surface of the Moon. Did they photograph the sky before the eclipse and the superimpose the image on the sky with the image of the solar eclipse? The photo is just wrong.
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09-18-2017, 03:59 AM
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Re: North American Solar eclipse 8/21/2017
According to the website, the photograph was taken in Oregon. I'm guessing that the things that look like stars are actually Cottonwood fluff in the air, or perhaps just random flying insects.
Cottonwoods generally produce their seeds/fluff earlier in the season, but I've often seen significant amounts of it floating about well into August, so I'm guessing that's what it is -- Cottonwood fluff and/or insects backlit by the Sun.
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