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Writing in the BMJ, research microbiologist David Lewis, of the National Whistleblowers Center, explains that he reviewed histopathological grading sheets by two of Dr. Wakefield's coauthors, pathologists Amar Dhillon and Andrew Anthony, and concluded there was no fraud committed by Dr. Wakefield:
Interesting, I went to go look this up, and Dr. David Lewis did not write in the BMJ, he wrote to the BMJ. This wasn't a peer reviewed paper, as implied by Mercola.

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On closer examination these grading sheets did nothing to absolve Andrew Wakefield. They showed that the majority of bowel samples taken from the 12 Lancet children were normal or as near normal as makes no difference. The BMJ eventually published the grading sheets along with expert commentaries and an explanatory article by Brian Deer.(1) (2) (3) We invited David Lewis to prepare a shortened version of his allegations, which we published as a rapid response.(4)

As explained at the time, our aim throughout was to present this new information accurately within its correct context and in the public interest. A great deal of care was taken to achieve this outcome.

David Lewis has made no complaint to the BMJ. However I understand that he has complained to various bodies in the UK, and that he accuses me and the BMJ of fraud. I am grateful to Brian Deer for taking the trouble to provide a point by point response to this complaint, which can be found at http://briandeer.com/solved/david-lewis-1.htm .
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In the article, Lewis held himself out to be “director” of the “National Whistleblowers Center Research Misconduct Project”, and called himself a “research microbiologist” at the centre. I established that the “NWC” (whistleblowers.org) is a website operated by a firm of Washington employment lawyers, Kohn, Kohn and Colapinto, and shouldn’t be confused with the prestigious Government Accountability Project (whistleblower.org).
Sounds like just the right institution to make sweeping changes in medical research.
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Writing in the BMJ, research microbiologist David Lewis, of the National Whistleblowers Center, explains that he reviewed histopathological grading sheets by two of Dr. Wakefield's coauthors, pathologists Amar Dhillon and Andrew Anthony, and concluded there was no fraud committed by Dr. Wakefield:
Interesting, I went to go look this up, and Dr. David Lewis did not write in the BMJ, he wrote to the BMJ. This wasn't a peer reviewed paper, as implied by Mercola.

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On closer examination these grading sheets did nothing to absolve Andrew Wakefield. They showed that the majority of bowel samples taken from the 12 Lancet children were normal or as near normal as makes no difference. The BMJ eventually published the grading sheets along with expert commentaries and an explanatory article by Brian Deer.(1) (2) (3) We invited David Lewis to prepare a shortened version of his allegations, which we published as a rapid response.(4)

As explained at the time, our aim throughout was to present this new information accurately within its correct context and in the public interest. A great deal of care was taken to achieve this outcome.

David Lewis has made no complaint to the BMJ. However I understand that he has complained to various bodies in the UK, and that he accuses me and the BMJ of fraud. I am grateful to Brian Deer for taking the trouble to provide a point by point response to this complaint, which can be found at http://briandeer.com/solved/david-lewis-1.htm .
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Oh, and this "National Whistleblower's Center"?

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In the article, Lewis held himself out to be “director” of the “National Whistleblowers Center Research Misconduct Project”, and called himself a “research microbiologist” at the centre. I established that the “NWC” (whistleblowers.org) is a website operated by a firm of Washington employment lawyers, Kohn, Kohn and Colapinto, and shouldn’t be confused with the prestigious Government Accountability Project (whistleblower.org).
Sounds like just the right institution to make sweeping changes in medical research.
You will find something wrong with anyone who doesn't think that vaccines are great. Anyone, in your view, who has the slightest concern is a quack. As long as parents can decide for themselves whether they want their babies injected with 4925 micrograms of aluminum by 18 months of age, then that's their choice. It's when parents are told that injecting their babies with 4925 micrograms of aluminum by 18 months of age is mandatory, that there is a problem.

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Writing in the BMJ, research microbiologist David Lewis, of the National Whistleblowers Center, explains that he reviewed histopathological grading sheets by two of Dr. Wakefield's coauthors, pathologists Amar Dhillon and Andrew Anthony, and concluded there was no fraud committed by Dr. Wakefield:
Interesting, I went to go look this up, and Dr. David Lewis did not write in the BMJ, he wrote to the BMJ. This wasn't a peer reviewed paper, as implied by Mercola.
So a guy who was on the business end of a $5 million beat-down at the hands of the Federal Trade Commission based on fraudulent tanning bed sales told some more big fat lies. Imagine my surprise!
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As long as parents can decide for themselves whether they want their babies injected with 4925 micrograms of aluminum by 18 months of age, then that's their choice.
They can also decide for themselves not to give them 20 times that amount contained in breast milk, formula, water and other food. Then the child starves to death and the parents go to prison.

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Old 12-09-2017, 11:11 PM
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Wow 4925 Micrograms. Why that's almost 5,000,000 nanograms!!
It's also on the order of a few fine salt grains.
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As long as parents can decide for themselves whether they want their babies injected with 4925 micrograms of aluminum by 18 months of age, then that's their choice.
They can also decide for themselves not to give them 20 times that amount contained in breast milk, formula, water and other food. Then the child starves to death and the parents go to prison.

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Breast milk does not contain 20 times that amount. Moreover, injecting a baby with 4925 mcg of aluminum directly into the bloodstream before the tender age of 18 months cannot be compared to breast milk in order to make your failed point.

http://immunityeducationgroup.org/ba...much-aluminum/
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directly into the bloodstream before the tender age of 18 months
Well you'll be happy to know most vaccines are intramuscular not directly into the bloodstream.
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In other units, 30 000 to 50 000 micrograms.

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In other units, 30 000 to 50 000 micrograms.
You cannot make such a sweeping generalization. So the body burden of a baby is the same as a 300 pound man?
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Aluminum is not bioaccumulated to a significant extent.
It is not completely excreted. Some accumulates in the body; enough to warrant more research instead of blithely ignoring any evidence that suggests aluminum could be a problem.
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I guess that means that when your father sold a large amount of this toxic substance (it must have been trillions of micrograms in total!) he committed an unspeakable crime against humanity.

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Aluminium and iron in humans: bioaccumulation, pathology, and removal. - PubMed - NCBI
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There is nothing funny about this abstract just because you haven't heard of the journal. What a rush to judgment! You are becoming more and more unreflecting probably because of the memes being passed on. :sadcheer:

It is well known that exposure to various elements has a noticeable effect on human health. The effect of an element is determined by several characteristics, including its similarity to elements of biological necessity, metabolism, and degree of interaction with physiological processes. This review investigates the scientific literature of iron and aluminium to evaluate the extent to which these elements accumulate and cause pathology in humans. Iron was chosen for review because it is necessary for human life while seemingly having relationships with numerous pathological states such as heart disease, cancer, and impaired insulin sensitivity. Aluminium is reviewed because of its prevalence in daily life, observed interference with several biological processes, controversial relationship with Alzheimer disease, and lack of physiological role. Furthermore, because each of these metals has long been investigated for a possible relationship with various pathological states, a substantial volume of research is available regarding the effects of iron and aluminium in biological systems. For both aluminium and iron, this review focuses on: (1) Evaluating the evidence of toxicity, (2) considering the possibility of bioaccumulation, and (3) exploring methods of managing their accumulation.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21142669/
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Cell Biology and Toxicology
April 2013, Volume 29, Issue 2, pp 75–84 | Cite as
How aluminum, an intracellular ROS generator promotes hepatic and neurological diseases: the metabolic tale

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Sungwon HanJoseph LemireVarun P. AppannaChristopher AugerZachary CastonguayVasu D. AppannaEmail author

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Metal pollutants are a global health risk due to their ability to contribute to a variety of diseases. Aluminum (Al), a ubiquitous environmental contaminant is implicated in anemia, osteomalacia, hepatic disorder, and neurological disorder. In this review, we outline how this intracellular generator of reactive oxygen species (ROS) triggers a metabolic shift towards lipogenesis in astrocytes and hepatocytes. This Al-evoked phenomenon is coupled to diminished mitochondrial activity, anerobiosis, and the channeling of α-ketoacids towards anti-oxidant defense. The resulting metabolic reconfiguration leads to fat accumulation and a reduction in ATP synthesis, characteristics that are common to numerous medical disorders. Hence, the ability of Al toxicity to create an oxidative environment promotes dysfunctional metabolic processes in astrocytes and hepatocytes. These molecular events triggered by Al-induced ROS production are the potential mediators of brain and liver disorders.

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At what kind of dose does this happen?
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At what kind of dose does this happen?
Don’t know. I didn’t buy the article, but I guarantee you that the amount of aluminum being injected into babies far exceeds safe limits according to their study. Argue with me all you want. I couldn’t care less as long as you are not Paul Offit. :laugh:
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Donít know. I didnít buy the article, but I guarantee you that the amount of aluminum being injected into babies far exceeds safe limits according to their study.
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You don't know because you didn't read the article, there is no mention of it in the abstract, but you "guarantee me"..
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Don’t know. I didn’t buy the article, but I guarantee you that the amount of aluminum being injected into babies far exceeds safe limits according to their study.
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You don't know because you didn't read the article, there is no mention of it in the abstract, but you "guarantee me"..
The study was showing the cumulative effects. There is no safe limit, certainly not 4925 mcg before 18 months when the safe limit by EPA standards is 25 mcg. I know you disagree so you do what you want. All parents deserve the same courtesy.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7842872/
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The study was showing the cumulative effects. There is no safe limit, certainly not 4925 mcg before 18 months when the safe limit by EPA standards is 25 mcg. I know you disagree so you do what you want. All parents deserve the same courtesy.

[Chronic toxic effects of aluminum on nervous system in rabbits]. - PubMed - NCBI
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The study was showing the cumulative effects. There is no safe limit, certainly not 4925 mcg before 18 months when the safe limit by EPA standards is 25 mcg. I know you disagree so you do what you want. All parents deserve the same courtesy.

[Chronic toxic effects of aluminum on nervous system in rabbits]. - PubMed - NCBI
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Why don't you just admit that you're making this shit up?
You donít want to hear anything that makes us question the safety of vaccines. You make light of the potential risks. Parents are entitled to make an informed choice when all of the advantages and disadvantages are taken into consideration.
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Adjuvants | Vaccine Safety | CDC

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Aluminum gels or aluminum salts are vaccine ingredients that have been used in vaccines since the 1930s. Small amounts of aluminum are added to help the body build stronger immunity against the germ in the vaccine. Aluminum is one of the most common metals found in nature and is present in air, food, and water. The amount of aluminum present in vaccines is low and is regulated by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
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Aluminum salts, such as aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, and aluminum potassium sulfate have been used safely in vaccines for more than 70 years. Aluminum salts were initially used in the 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s with diphtheria and tetanus vaccines after it was found that this addition strengthened the bodyís immune response to these vaccines.
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Aluminum gels or aluminum salts are vaccine ingredients that have been used in vaccines since the 1930s. Small amounts of aluminum are added to help the body build stronger immunity against the germ in the vaccine. Aluminum is one of the most common metals found in nature and is present in air, food, and water. The amount of aluminum present in vaccines is low and is regulated by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
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Aluminum salts, such as aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, and aluminum potassium sulfate have been used safely in vaccines for more than 70 years. Aluminum salts were initially used in the 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s with diphtheria and tetanus vaccines after it was found that this addition strengthened the bodyís immune response to these vaccines.
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What propaganda are you spewing now? The amount of aluminum being given to babies during the first day of their little lives did not occur in the 1930s. Who are you trying to fool But? Iím sure not these savvy newcomers. :laugh:
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