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Old 10-08-2004, 03:28 PM
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It's been over three years since the terror attacks of September 11, 2001 (and 11 years since the first Al Qaeda terror attack on US soil in 1993). Shrubya claims he and his administration are doing what it takes to reform the agencies responsible for national, I mean vaterland, I mean homeland security. Has he really? Has anything changed at all?

This week's Minneapolis City Pages (a Village Voice property) ran a group of articles about FBI whistleblowers that reveal how little has changed in the FBI, the main law enforcement agency responsible for investigating terrorist activity on US soil.

Special Agent Jane Turner vs. The FBI

Fred Whitehurst, Whistleblower #1

Senate FBI Watchdog Chuck Grassley on Jane Turner and the Bureau

FBI Whistleblowers: A Short List

More from Sibel Edmonds

And then there's the CIA:
Senior officer says CIA still short-staffed


But we're all safer because Saddam Hussein is no longer in power :rolleye1: .
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Old 10-11-2004, 04:48 PM
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I would like to know who in the elected government, if anyone, is aiming to solve these problems. They seem credible and serious.
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....5,293 days later....
So Kirstjen Nielsen got fired from running Homeland Security, and she implemented policies under Trump which focused on migrant family separation, and lied about number, conditions, and pretty much everything, and is an awful person.
We'll see if this is accurate, but reporting today suggests Trump has been exerting pressure on Nielsen and others running Homeland Security to restart / continue the migrant family separation policies and to implement actions which are illegal, and which (supposedly) the Homeland Security executive staff have found a bright line at, perhaps somewhere between moral courage and clear criminal liability.
As the reporting unfolds it is suggested that Trump has either empowered Stephen Miller or is following his advice and sweeping the deck of Homeland Security to put in people who are willing to proceed in the face of clear criminal liability, and who have less moral courage than... Kirstjen Nielsen?
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Trump’s flailing shake-up of the Department of Homeland Security, explained

Trump's support of renewed child separation policy led to collision with Nielsen
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According to two of the sources, Nielsen told Trump that federal court orders prohibited the Department of Homeland Security from reinstating the policy, and that he would be reversing his own executive order from June that ended family separations.
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[...]and who have less moral courage than... Kirstjen Nielsen?
Holy shit, the US is doomed.
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We were doomed the moment that orange shit stain was elected.
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DHS “Purge” Continues with Deputy Sec. Claire Grady

The article itself is extremely succinct: clearing the decks of all the "I won't follow strait-up illegal directions, we don't actually have the capacity to track or effectively reunite the families we already separated, you actually signed an executive order ceasing all family separations, what you're asking us to do is illegal, and I have a sense of self-preservation, and there's a line? "- all THOSE ASSHOLES are now out of the way because Trump and his immigration-focused, white-nationalist signalling adviser Stephen Miller think they've found the perfect replacement for Nielsen in Kevin McAleenan, who is currently head of Customs and Border Protection.

On Customs and Border Protection: Hold CBP Accountable | Stopping U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) Abuse
The website above is a joint project between the ACLU, American Immigration Council, and Northwest Immigrants Rights Project.


U.S. Reportedly Compiled Database Of Journalists Working Along Southwest Border
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Photojournalist Kitra Cahana is also on the list. In an interview with KNSD, she described how officials at airports repeatedly questioned her in January as she attempted to fly from Canada to Mexico, with a connecting flight in Detroit. And once she reached Mexico City, Cahana said, she was again questioned before being denied entry into Mexico. She was forced instead to fly back to Detroit.

The newly leaked documents are being seen as confirmation of a phenomenon the Committee to Protect Journalists and Reporters Without Borders highlighted last October, when they warned of a potential chilling effect on efforts to report on border and immigration issues.

Those organizations warned about what it called a chilling prospect, "thanks to the wide powers granted to Customs and Border Protection agents, who can search electronic devices without warrant, and question reporters about past and current work."
Article from 2017 about CBP having power-tripping polygraph proctors, who were rejecting at a rate higher than made sense. I like the part of the story where you find out why they have the policy:
Two out of three Border Patrol job applicants fail polygraph test, making hiring difficult
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Taking a polygraph test became a hiring requirement at CBP in 2012 after a huge hiring surge was followed by a similar surge in agents getting arrested for misconduct.

James Tomsheck said that when he was CBP's chief of internal affairs from 2006 to 2014, about 30 applicants admitted during the lie detector test that they were sent by drug cartels; one said he had killed his infant son.

One applicant revealed that his brother-in-law wanted him to smuggle cocaine on the job, and another said he used marijuana 9,000 times, including the night before his test, according to the Government Accountability Office.
On Kevin McAleenan:
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McAleenan was one of the three DHS officials to recommend the cruel and inhumane policy to outgoing Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, writing that the department’s best option to “increase the consequences for dangerous illegal crossings” was to “direct the separation of parents or legal guardians and minors held in immigration detention so that the parent or legal guardian can be prosecuted.”

Despite signing the family separation memo and overseeing the very agency that implemented the policy, McAleenan stated in an interview with the Los Angeles Times that “we do not have a policy of administrative separation.” He later made the absurd claim that family separation was meant to “protect families and children,” even though child welfare experts had warned that “separating children from their mothers or fathers leads to serious, negative consequences to children’s health and development.”
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That's alright. I didn't need to sleep tonight anyway.

If I'd noticed this thread had been bumped, I'd have posted my thoughts on KKKirstjen Nielsen's firing here instead. In case anyone didn't read them, they're now linked here for posterity.

I see nothing to indicate that my initial impressions were incorrect. We need to place pressure on these administration* apparatchiks as much as we can without burning ourselves out, and this includes public confrontations of these people. It may not stop the implementation of policies like this, but it may slow it down. And maybe it'll help prove that many of us are not represented in the slightest by El Caudillo de Mar-a-Lago's administration*.
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Father and son separated at the border reunite after 326 days

First stop for migrant kids: For-profit detention center
The for-profit detention center that we fund and support has waived the requirements regarding acceptable number of mental health care staff per number of child prisoners, because it is on federal property, and not subject to state laws. The "teachers" teaching the child prisoners need not have a teaching degree. Inspirational pictures of Martin Luther King, Jr. are on the walls. Because he had a dream that someday his visage would adorn a for-profit child prison camp.
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As of Feb. 13, 11,500 children were in HHS custody, down from a record of nearly 15,000 in mid-December
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Saw that first story yesterday. Man that is a tear jerker. To imagine this happening to 15,000 children for no reason at all is rage inducing.
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....5,293 days later....
In other news, we may have set an :ff: record for zombie thread resurrections!

So at least there's that.
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