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Old 04-15-2019, 11:13 PM
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I'm not a fan of the media saber-rattling war propaganda for the government. It may be that I'm hyper-critical of how we perpetuate "enemies" status (especially when we outspend all three of those nations combined ($63.1 + 168.2 + 19.6 = $251 billion; US 2019 military budget $643.3 billion); but anyway, here's the headline:
Russia, China, and Iran Defend Support for Venezuela, Warn U.S. Cannot Tell Them or Latin America What to Do

I would characterize that statement as bellicose. You know how Iran has supported Venezuela recently? By pointing out that the US administration is purposefully cutting off oil exports from Venezuela and half of Iran's oil exports; prices have gone up 30% on the world market and that's on the US and OPEC. Why add Iran in there? That's some free propaganda, courtesy your media, directed at you, to signal malign intent.

Now what if we did it like this instead?
U.S., European Union, and Austria Defend Support for Ukraine, Warn Russia Cannot Tell Them or Former Soviet Republics What to Do

Austria has an economy roughly the size of Iran's by the way. Austria's definitely the junior partner; why add them in?

Same reason to add in Iran; because you're selling a product. Or you got sold a product. War propaganda.

Wouldn't be new.
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When a black kid is killed by the cops: "He was no angel" *insert mugshot or least friendly looking picture*

When Hillary Clinton apologizes for having a private server: "What is she hiding? Why won't she apologize properly?"

When a Republican White House staffer contemplates breaking the law: *gives her a glamorous fashion shot picture* "What a, like, interesting and philosophical dilemma!"
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Why, yes! Compliance with a subpoena is an existential question. Will she or won't she comply with a subpoena? Such a pickle!

Very much along those lines, Trump 2020 campaign transcription campaign has kicked off in earnest. Such a journalism. Looking forward to some earnest think pieces to find out what ignorant white men in the Midwest think - which 2020 Democrat lady do YOU think is the bitchiest harpy, b/c economically anxious.
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When a black kid is killed by the cops: "He was no angel" *insert mugshot or least friendly looking picture*

When Hillary Clinton apologizes for having a private server: "What is she hiding? Why won't she apologize properly?"

When a Republican White House staffer contemplates breaking the law: *gives her a glamorous fashion shot picture* "What a, like, interesting and philosophical dilemma!"
It's about balance. Opinion is divided over whether a particular black kid is automatically a bad 'un, or whether Hillary is Crooked, so they have to lay it on.

But everyone, supporters and opponents alike, knows that "member of Trump's staff" means corrupt and law-breaking (the supporters simply think those are good things), so they have to counterbalance that in order to have any kind of non-trivial statement.
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This is part of why I think it was bad for Sanders, Buttigieg and Klobuchar to go on FOX News to do town halls. Lending FOX News legitimacy makes it harder to fight the pattern discussed in the video.
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This is part of why I think it was bad for Sanders, Buttigieg and Klobuchar to go on FOX News to do town halls. Lending FOX News legitimacy makes it harder to fight the pattern discussed in the video.

That's a pretty weak reason, what's the other part?
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Oh, you're just upset that I criticized Bernie (among others). Make an actual case for why that's a weak reason or why it's good to go on FOX or I'm not going to bother.
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Yeah I look at fox news as a bit between russia today and north korean news on the right wing propaganda scale. If I were running I would only agree if I could wear a “Fox news lies! Conservatives could do better!” Shirt and would only speak in examples of errors or blatant false news presented by fox.
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Oh, you're just upset that I criticized Bernie (among others). Make an actual case for why that's a weak reason or why it's good to go on FOX or I'm not going to bother.
Oh, you're just upset that Bernie is doing an end run around the DNC propaganda crap machine and may be getting a lot of votes that way.

I find it a pretty weird idea that Democrats going on Fox will lead to the result of MSNBC or CNN putting out more Republican talking points. Will it do anything to the fact that those two suck hairy balls which they have been doing for years?

Much more interesting is what the effect on Fox News could be. That Bernie town hall was pretty much a slam dunk, and what the hosts did was a lot more friendly than the shit CNN has been dumping on progressive Democrats. But I guess it has to be a nefarious plot to prop up Bernie to smash the Democratic Party for Russia or something.

I don't know what to make of that Vox piece - the starting point is that he describes journalism as taking the output of the two political parties and editing it. Sure, that's what happens, it's straight out of "Manufacturing Consent". It's not real journalism and it's the whole bloody problem in a nutshell.
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Oh, you're just upset that I criticized Bernie (among others). Make an actual case for why that's a weak reason or why it's good to go on FOX or I'm not going to bother.
Oh, you're just upset that Bernie is doing an end run around the DNC propaganda crap machine and may be getting a lot of votes that way.
What is the "DNC propaganda crap machine"?

Is it "any news outlet other than FOX News"? You're going to be hard-pressed to find any other standard where this criticism isn't nonsensical nor any other standard where you can find evidence of me criticizing Bernie for "doing an end run around the DNC propaganda crap machine."

Like, this is just word vomit that doesn't mean anything. You might as well just grunt "Democrats BAD, Bernie GOOD." It's really so stupid that it should disqualify the rest of your post from being worth responding to.
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I find it a pretty weird idea that Democrats going on Fox will lead to the result of MSNBC or CNN putting out more Republican talking points.
Democrats would like to criticize mainstream media outlets, which include also the big three broadcasters (NBC, CBS, ABC) and major newspapers, not just MSNBC and CNN who I said nothing about specifically, for recycling obvious bullshit stories that originated on FOX News. This criticism can be more easily deflected if they can say "Well, you did a whole town hall on FOX News! Why would you do that if it's just GOP propaganda?"
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Much more interesting is what the effect on Fox News could be.
The fact that it's still hypothetical over a month later suggests that the effect will be zilch.
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I didn't say Bernie did a bad job given that he did go on FOX News. He did do a good job. But a few rounds of applause from the audience doesn't make it a good idea.

FOX News also spent the several days after the town hall shitting all over Bernie Sanders and while Bernie got a short term surge in cable news coverage, it didn't do anything to stop Biden from continuously dominating media coverage ever since he announced his campaign.

And since he did the town hall, his national primary polling average has dropped from 22% to 16%. Slam dunk!

The fact that you or I might watch the town hall and enjoy how Sanders handled himself is not actually evidence that it is good for Sanders or good for the Democrats he'll need to pass any legislation.

And to some extent, it might be that it's good for Sanders and not horrible for Democrats if he were the only who did it. But with other Democrats going on, Sanders won't get as many points for being "the only one willing to go into the lion's den" and it exacerbates the issue of giving legitimacy to FOX News.
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Yeah, and I mentioned Buttigieg and Klobuchar, neither of whom fit into your bullshit narrative. Buttigieg might be somewhat anti-establishment, but he's not super liberal/left, and Klobuchar is a mainstream/moderate establishment Democrat. Gillibrand is also reportedly doing a FOX News town hall. Whereas Elizabeth Warren, who refused to do a FOX News town hall, I guess she's just a DNC stooge? You're trying to fit this into a simplistic narrative that doesn't work with the group of people I'm talking about.

I'm pretty sure if the roles were reversed and Warren had gone on and Sanders had released a statement about why he turned them down, you would be praising Warren for getting around the DNC propaganda machine :rolleyes: Does literally anyone believe that?

The best thing I can say for the idea is that Trump seems to be bothered by it. But FOX News will stop doing them or will have their people try to soothe Trump and explain why it's not bad for him before it leads to an actual rift between them, so I doubt much will come of it.
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Oh, you're just upset that Bernie is doing an end run around the DNC propaganda crap machine and may be getting a lot of votes that way.
What is the "DNC propaganda crap machine"?

Is it "any news outlet other than FOX News"? You're going to be hard-pressed to find any other standard where this criticism isn't nonsensical

Then what the fuck was this "Russiagate" nonsense? You're complaining that the mainstream media jump on stories pushed by Fox, they have been doing the same thing, probably to a greater extent when they drummed on and on about Russia Russia Russia, they treated Mueller, one of the fucks who tried to sell us the WMD bullshit before the Iraq war, like he was Jesus Christ.


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Like, this is just word vomit that doesn't mean anything. You might as well just grunt "Democrats BAD, Bernie GOOD." It's really so stupid that it should disqualify the rest of your post from being worth responding to.

Yeah, fuck you too, you clown.
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Russia did though seriously fuck with our elections and Fuck the mainstream news for downplaying anything that isnt immediately ‘Trump is a russian asset’ headline news.
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Oh, you're just upset that Bernie is doing an end run around the DNC propaganda crap machine and may be getting a lot of votes that way.
What is the "DNC propaganda crap machine"?

Is it "any news outlet other than FOX News"? You're going to be hard-pressed to find any other standard where this criticism isn't nonsensical
Then what the fuck was this "Russiagate" nonsense?
I don't know how this is relevant to the question. Are you saying that, yes, you mean any media producer or distributor that isn't FOX News (or you know, Breitbart or InfoWars or the like) is DNC propaganda?
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Fox News is just like any other news channel, defending a Nazi saluting presenter who uses their network to promote white supremacists. Dont worry Im sure being a fair and balanced reasonable news organization they will also give jihad muslims and socialist anarchists shows to invite their buddies on for a chat. Otherwise people might think they are right wing propaganda.

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Well, Glenn Greenwald goes on Tucker Carlson's white power hour on FOX a lot, so maybe this is part of why some people want to defend going on FOX ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Very much along those lines, Trump 2020 campaign transcription campaign has kicked off in earnest. Such a journalism. Looking forward to some earnest think pieces to find out what ignorant white men in the Midwest think - which 2020 Democrat lady do YOU think is the bitchiest harpy, b/c economically anxious.
Whoa, NYT is disappearing up its own asshole with an Insider piece that takes you behind the scenes of asking dumb shit white guys how much they love a Trump skullfucking with some sweet welfare.
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Russia did though seriously fuck with our elections
Russia did have an affect on US elections. It's difficult to measure that influence, as Nate Silver points out, and important to actually view it in perspective: what were the influencing campaigns in this election, and how effective were they?
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The indictment alleges that an organization called the Internet Research Agency had a monthly budget of approximately $1.25 million toward interference efforts by September 2016 and that it employed “hundreds of individuals for its online operation.” This is a fairly significant magnitude — much larger than the paltry sums that Russian operatives had previously been revealed to spend on Facebook advertising.

Nonetheless, it’s small as compared with the campaigns. The Clinton campaign and Clinton-backing super PACs spent a combined $1.2 billion over the course of the campaign. The Trump campaign and pro-Trump super PACs spent $617 million overall.

In terms of headcounts rather than budgets, the gap isn’t quite so dramatic. The “hundreds” of people working for the Internet Research Agency compare with 4,200 paid Clinton staffers and 880 paid Trump staffers. Russian per-capita GDP is estimated at around $10,000 U.S. dollars — about one-sixth of what it is in the U.S. — so a $1.25 million monthly budget potentially goes a lot farther there than it does here. The Russian efforts were on the small side as compared with the massive magnitudes of the campaigns, but not so small that you’d consider them a rounding error.
Noam Chomsky points out that Israeli influence on the election was of a far greater magnitude than Russian:
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Israeli intervention in US elections vastly overwhelms anything the Russians may have done, I mean, even to the point where the prime minister of Israel, Netanyahu, goes directly to Congress, without even informing the president, and speaks to Congress, with overwhelming applause, to try to undermine the president’s policies - what happened with Obama and Netanyahu in 2015.
Certainly the Pro-Israeli lobby AIPAC brags about influencing elections.
And because it also does not occur in a vacuum- the US routinely and openly interferes in foreign elections... for example openly bragging on the cover of Time Magazine about how the US engineered Boris Yeltsin's election .

Or here: Database Tracks History Of U.S. Meddling In Foreign Elections
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DOV LEVIN: One example of that was our intervention in Serbia, Yugoslavia in the 2000 election there. Slobodan Milosevic was running for re-election, and we didn't want him to stay in power there due to his tendency, you know, to disrupts the Balkans and his human rights violations.

So we intervened in various ways for the opposition candidate, Vojislav Kostunica. And we gave funding to the opposition, and we gave them training and campaigning aide. And according to my estimate, that assistance was crucial in enabling the opposition to win.

SHAPIRO: How often are these interventions public versus covert?

LEVIN: Well, it's - basically there's about - one-third of them are public, and two-third of them are covert. In other words, they're not known to the voters in the target before the election.

SHAPIRO: Your count does not include coups, attempts at regime change. It sounds like depending on the definitions, the tally could actually be much higher.

LEVIN: Well, you're right. I don't count and discount covert coup d'etats like the United States did in Iran in 1953 or in Guatemala in 1954. I only took when the United States is trying directly to influence an election for one of the sides. Other types of interventions - I don't discuss. But if we would include those, then of course the number could be larger, yeah.

SHAPIRO: How often do other countries like Russia, for example, try to alter the outcome of elections as compared to the United States?

LEVIN: Well, for my dataset, the United States is the most common user of this technique. Russia or the Soviet Union since 1945 has used it half as much. My estimate has been 36 cases between 1946 to 2000.
I don't want Russia interfering in US elections, and when they do, I want the US to identify and work to block this interference. I also want the US to stop interfering in foreign elections, which we do at almost twice the rate of Russia. I want the US to block Israel and AIPAC from interfering in our elections. Dark Money bans would be great as well.
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The most important way that Russia interfered in the US elections was by hacking Democratic Party organizations, the Democratic presidential nominee's campaign manager's email account, and Democratic Congressional candidates' emails. The information in these emails dominated media coverage, and if you counted it as paid advertising for the Trump campaign, it's not so clear that the comparison would be so trivial.

These hacks also had synergy with the already existing GOP attempts to ratfuck Clinton by investigating her for Benghazi and subsequently her State Dept emails and the server.

So weird how people downplaying Russia's role almost always only talk about the size of Russia's budget on Facebook trolls and the like. The Nate Silver piece mentioned the hacks, but it didn't focus on them because the piece was prompted by indictments Mueller made that concerned their trolling attempts.

Allegedly they also hacked some Republican campaigns, but strangely those emails never made their way onto Wikileaks's website.
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Tucker Carlson: "Almost every nation on Earth has fallen under the yoke of tyranny -- the metric system"

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Carlson: "Esperanto died, but the metric system continues, this weird, utopian, inelegant creepy system that we alone have resisted"
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Here lies satire, murdered by the right, at 1145.3 barley grains tall...
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This could go in various threads but why not here.



Many conclusions can drawn from this. One would be that the NYT and the Grauniad follow each other, or media priorities in general, much more than the other factors shown.
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Ah yes good ol murder death news.
Is there a murder or accident in local area?
Yes, BREAKING NEWS.
No, expand circle till murder found, obfuscate it’s in another country, BREAKING NEWS!

Unrelated, fuck news reports that report on a released document but doesnt give the name or a link.

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Media "fact checking" often leaves something to be desired. Why, we can't just say that Trump lies all the time without saying Democratic candidates and politicians lie sometimes! So we'll just have to make up some lies...



"He says millions, but if you make his statement more specific than it was, it would be misleading. Also, 'millions' just feels like it should mean more than 5%, it doesn't matter if it's millions out of over a hundred million. If you tell me there are 'millions of gays and lesbians in America', that's just a lie, because if that were true, wouldn't half of America be gay?"


"When you consider that some people have less than nothing, isn't it a bit misleading to say that Bill Gates has so much more?"

(To be fair, I think the point he was trying to make is that if you only consider Americans with negative net wealth, you could say that some random homeless child with no assets but also no debts is worth more than millions of people put together. It would be trivially true that any single person would be worth more than all of those people put together. However, Sanders was not only referring to people with negative net worth, but instead to a group with a combined net worth of hundreds of billions of dollars... so to be fair, it's still a stupid point.)
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