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Old 02-10-2017, 11:10 PM
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I had already made up my mind to go in for my check-up this year. You've just made certain I won't blow it off.
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My insurance won't pay for yearly check ups. I get them every three years at best. But yes any bleeding is serious and those nifty blood pressure machines are now way more accurate and cheap then they were 10 years ago. Never turn down a free blood pressure check, it's a silent killer.
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Oddly, nor will mine. The NHS offers them every five years for 40-75 year olds. But you seem to get a blood pressure check whatever you visit the GP for.
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Okay, Lone...Welcome to my world. I am a victim of the 'dread triad': hypertension, diabetes, and hypercholesterolemia.

I've never seen quite as high of BP readings as you are describing, but I've been close. I was diagnosed more than 20 years ago and the physicians have never been successful in completely lowering my BP to 'normal' levels. The diastolic is now near where it 'should be', while the systolic remains modestly elevated.

They will probably give you meds to reduce the BP and those are not always safe, nor particularly effective. One medication I was on made it exceeding difficult to walk even a modest incline without becoming physically exhausted in short order, while another (Norvasc) engendered raging periodontal inflammation....without having much effect upon my BP. In the years since my diagnosis, I have been shuffled through several sets of medications, seeking one that will accomplish the purpose without engendering other problems.

My recommendation is to make sure that you have an idea of what possible adverse events might occur with each prescribed medication and make sure your physician is apprised of those events ASAP. The Cochrane Library online is a pretty good source on medication effectiveness.

And...There are ideologues within the medical profession who are questioning the 'need' for annual medical check-ups (I believe this is coming out of the Geisel School of Medicine at Dartmouth, which provides much of the lead in Evidence-Based Clinical Medicine). I suspect the 'annual check-up' came about because so many patients never came to see their physician unless they were exhibiting serious conditions and preventive intervention might well have been more effective. However, with all the 'preventive scanning' occurring these days in medical clinics and hospitals, 'preventive care' has taken on some malevolent aspects of pushing unnecessary over-medication and over-treatment (like, say, the PSA and prostatic treatment). I believe that the cost, or perceived cost, of medical treatment has generated the reluctance to see a physician when one needs one. Universal single-payer coverage would end that.

All that said, take care of yourself, man. I hope you have a more positive response to medical intervention than have I, and you are back to near normal soon.
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Universal single-payer coverage would end that.
The difference between:
Weird, I should see my doctor.
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Weird, would the benefit exceed the cost of seeing my doctor?
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I am also very fond of you, TLR. Wishing you the best.
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Well, I'm just back from my first follow-up visit. As it happens, the physician who admitted me wasn't in today (he's out with the flu), so I saw another physician. That's not such a bad thing, really, since there's value to a second opinion.

I had some more blood drawn and tested, and then he went over the results of all the tests I've had over the past week and a half.


The real issue, it seems, is diet. The campus cafeteria serves 3 meals a day, and faculty eat for free. (This is part of the deal; part of the reason this college pays its faculty so little is because all of our meals are -- supposedly -- free.) The downside to that is that the food served in the campus cafeteria is very high in salt, saturated fat, and other unhealthy stuff.



So anyway, the test results: the problem wasn't with my kidneys, heart, or renal arteries. There are no signs of pituitary or adrenal disorders that would explain the very high blood pressure. In short, he said, there was no physical cause, so far as they can tell -- it's just a combination of genetic susceptibility and a high-salt diet.

He also reiterated what I'd already been told: the blood in the urine may have been dismaying, but it was probably the best thing that could have happened to me -- because if it hadn't convinced me to come in for a check-up, I might well have died of a stroke or a heart attack.



That also explains why it took several days before I finally started responding to the medications and my blood pressure went down: we had to wait for the excess sodium to clear my system. But my b.p. is staying down now, fortunately.

My body mass index is good; he said that it wouldn't hurt to lose a little weight, but that it isn't really necessary. He also gave me the green light to start going back to the gym. [The first few days on the medication, I felt ... well, awful ... but I seem to have pretty-much adjusted by now. I'm currently feeling about 1,000% better than I did just a couple of days ago.]

So, he said, if I continue on a low-sodium, low-fat diet, then moderate levels of exercise should suffice to keep my blood pressure under control. Indeed, he thinks that a good exercise regime and proper diet may well let me get off the pills entirely.



Ironically, because one of the pills I'm now taking is a diuretic, my blood magnesium levels are too low. (That's not a surprise; many diuretics work by causing increased excretion of sodium, potassium, magnesium, and other ions.) So, I'm to take a magnesium supplement daily, to keep my magnesium levels up.

But that, too, should be a problem that takes care of itself if I can get myself off the pills. Yet another incentive to hit the gym after class.


I have a meeting with a nephrologist in a couple of weeks, just to make sure there are no kidney issues, and another follow-up appointment after that, to make sure that my blood pressure is staying down. But all in all, the results of today's follow-up exam were most encouraging.
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Ironically, because one of the pills I'm now taking is a diuretic, my blood magnesium levels are too low. (That's not a surprise; many diuretics work by causing increased excretion of sodium, potassium, magnesium, and other ions.) So, I'm to take a magnesium supplement daily, to keep my magnesium levels up.
No mention of covering up in the sun? My doctor was semi-strident about that when I was on diuretics. Maybe bounce that off your next doctor and then your GP.
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Yeah, I'm not supposed to be spending too much time in direct sunlight.

I'm going to make a point of eating foods that are rich in antioxidants, to hopefully help counteract that. [As if I need an excuse to eat more blueberries and drink more grape juice.]
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Did they check Vitamin D levels? :nosy: May need to watch that as well, especially with the reduced sun. I'm chronically low and one doc told me that such deficiency is usually lifelong. Luckily it's an easy pill to take.
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Yeah, couple years ago I got diagnosed with the Vitamin D deficiency. And B-12.

Remedy: take my vitamins.
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Oddly enough, when I was being treated for hypertension my sodium levels were always in the normal range. They were just about the only numbers that were. Go figure.
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Magnesium is best at night, it also helps you relax and fall asleep. Too much of that causes diarrhea, so back off if you have those symptoms.
I would also consider low carbs, because all the research I've seen about lowering fats is not as compelling as lowering carbs. Any excess calories turn into cholesterol in your system, to be stored (if you're an efficient member of our species), but fats may be slower to be broken down by your digestive system.
Prostaglandins have some interesting and variable effects on our bodies. I am not going to recommend anything, but that with your scientific back ground look into research about prostaglandins and their effects on the human body. My friends who have done way more research than I recommend certain things (grass raised dairy fats, no nitrate treated proteins). I hope you are well. And you can come visit some time!
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a fair amount of high blood pressure has nothing to do with high sodium levels, but it's not insignificant that there is a correlation with about 1/3rd of people who have high blood pressure.
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I have a pre-cancerous condition called "Barrett's Esophagus".

I have an A1C of 5.8 and that makes me pre-diabetic.

So, while I don't have either cancer or diabetes I am both pre-cancerous and pre-diabetic. Those are not good things.

However, the other day it occured to me that while I am both pre-cancerous and pre-diabetic I am also pre-deceased.

That, in my opinion, is a good thing.
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Ironically, because one of the pills I'm now taking is a diuretic, my blood magnesium levels are too low. (That's not a surprise; many diuretics work by causing increased excretion of sodium, potassium, magnesium, and other ions.) So, I'm to take a magnesium supplement daily, to keep my magnesium levels up.
Potassium, very important, critical even. Unless your bp meds cause potassium retention like Valsartangeneric (Diovan™) does, which is why it is usually coupled with the diuretic Hydrochlorothiazide.

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a fair amount of high blood pressure has nothing to do with high sodium levels, but it's not insignificant that there is a correlation with about 1/3rd of people who have high blood pressure.
Unless you're one of the people who are salt sensitive, reducing salt intake is not very effective. I cut out all snack foods and eat only fresh foods from the perimeter of the grocery store, and only occasionally sprinkle a little table salt on some meats, and it didn't make a bit of difference to my blood pressure. In fact, my sodium levels were so low I was getting muscle cramps. Low sodium and high potassium levels, not good. Hated it. Bad.
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