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It is a “hollowed-out country,” “ill at ease with itself,” “deeply provincial,” engaged in a “controlled suicide,” say puzzled experts.
The same could apply to America - except, as they point out later on, no one's puzzled by partisan divides in America.

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Jan Techau, a German who has traveled extensively in England and ran Carnegie Europe, sees Britain as a tragedy.
Um no, it's a farce.

The phrase "controlled suicide" is used again later. Controlled by who, we wonder, not needing to wonder very much.
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“The readiness of the political right in particular to lie and peddle obvious untruths, to place their party politics and party unity over and above the national interest, has been going on for a long time,” he said.
This part very-definitely applies to U.S. politics as well.
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MPs vote 'that animals cannot feel pain or emotions' into the Brexit bill | The Independent
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MPs have voted to reject the inclusion of animal sentience – the admission that animals feel emotion and pain – into the EU Withdrawal Bill.
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Politicians lack the ability to feel emotion or pain. :glarecat:
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They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
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It's what they do. It's all that they do.
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THIS is why I made my kids watch that movie before they were 7.
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The way the vote has been reported makes it look bad. But it's really a question of whether animal rights legislation belongs in the Brexit bill or elsewhere. Here's what Tory MP Zac Goldsmith tweeted, and other MPs have been quick to issue similar statements via Twitter or other media.

Zac Goldsmith on Twitter: "No, MPs did not vote that animals aren't sentient @Benfogle @domdyer70 @DeborahMeaden @sueperkins https://t.co/eQLz6plfa9"
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THIS is why I made my kids watch that movie before they were 7.
THIS is why Miisa is a model parent.
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The way the vote has been reported makes it look bad. But it's really a question of whether animal rights legislation belongs in the Brexit bill or elsewhere. Here's what Tory MP Zac Goldsmith tweeted, and other MPs have been quick to issue similar statements via Twitter or other media.

Zac Goldsmith on Twitter: "No, MPs did not vote that animals aren't sentient @Benfogle @domdyer70 @DeborahMeaden @sueperkins https://t.co/eQLz6plfa9"
Right ... still doesn't prove politicians are sentient.

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No MP believes animals do not have feelings.
No MP? I have doubts.

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You can keep farm animals in unspeakably cruel conditions without breaking a single EU law.
Quite likely true

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UK has higher standards than any other country in Europe
I'd definitely like to see some independent verification of this ... [citation required]
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this government has delivered a blizzard of animal welfare initiatives over the past 4 months
Really? This government seems unable to deliver anything.
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Serious threats in the UK:

Landlords in Theresa May's constituency threaten to ban her from every pub | The Independent
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Tony Blair confirms he is working to reverse Brexit | Politics | The Guardian

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“So when the facts change, I think people are entitled to change their mind.”

Blair was referring to the slogan on the Vote Leave battlebus, which said the UK sent £350m per week to the EU which could be spent on the NHS instead. The claim was widely dismissed as untrue because the figure took no account of the budget rebate, money never sent to the EU in the first place, or the cash returned in the form of EU spending in the UK.
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I wonder if he can reverse the invasion of Iraq too?
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It almost makes me change my mind about opposing it if he is against it...
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The Battle of Brexit may be fought over the land border between the UK and the EU.

This morning: Helen McEntee, Ireland's Europe minister, says nope: Ireland: no go-ahead for Brexit talks to move on | Politics | The Guardian

Breaking news: Just in time for the go/no-go meeting with Michel Barnier, Theresa Maybe says yep: MEPs say UK has conceded on Ireland border in Brexit talks

So we have the following simultaneous conditions:
  • There will be continued regulatory alignment between the EU and NI, avoiding any "hard" border.
  • The UK will leave the EU and the customs union and have complete freedom.
  • The UK remains a whole, with GB and NI enjoying complete territorial and economic integrity.

George Orwell had a term for this kind of double thinking ... what was it again ...
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:notes: if I only had a brain :notes:
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Lacking a specific Britain thrad:

Extra judicial killings are fun!
British Isis fighters should be hunted down and killed, says defence secretary | Politics | The Guardian

Britain’s economic woes have the disabled to blame: (I hyperbolise... unapologetically.)
Philip Hammond causes storm with remarks about disabled workers | Politics | The Guardian
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I hyperbolise... unapologetically.
How very postmodern!
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So you still don't know what postmodern means...
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Since this is now the British politics thrad:

Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe: Boris Johnson expected to go to Tehran this weekend | News | The Guardian

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in an effort to win the release of the British-Iranian woman Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe
Quick, spread the word, he's actually going to train journalists.
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For those not familiar with all of Boris Dick's gaffes:

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I accidentally went to the first page of this thread, and oh look

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I can't wait to see this blow up in their face!
The blowing up is proceeding just as you envisaged. As long as you imagined it blowing up with the force of two or three wet fireworks, and the speed of British train on a day with ice and leaves on the rails, and the sharp political negotiating skills of ... no, no one could have imagined the farce that is the present Conservative government.

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Optimal not-totally-unrealistic fantasy scenario:

-market crash + onerous terms of exit scares the bejeesus out of them
-new election is called, Conservatives + UKIP fucked up so much that Labour wins (helped partly by Conservative/UKIP chaos and vote splitting)
-election of new gov't is seen as a referendum on the referendum
-UK looks foolish, but decides to stay
- not enough to scare the core voters, just like nothing Trump has done has put off his core support
- so nearly
- yup
- UK looks foolish? And how. Decides to stay? It could still end up that way, possibly de facto, leaving in name only but still keeping all the rules and costs.
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