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Best explanation of net neutrality:

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And penis enlargement ads will start to be replaced by ads for "faster" internet.
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Old 11-22-2017, 02:49 PM
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If this goes away, not only will all your data (PORN HABITS) be scrutinized by telecom companies

Minor correction: That's the privacy rules that were never allowed to see the light of day. Net neutrality doesn't address that.
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Old 12-09-2017, 09:37 PM
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Oh look, in 2003 a VP at Verizon joked with a current FCC chairman about implanting a verizon shill at the FCC. And like Cosby 'joking' about spanish fly, he's now joking about collusion with teleco.
Gizmodo: Leaked video shows FCC chairman Joke about being a verizon shill.
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Old 12-14-2017, 05:48 AM
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NY Attorney General opens investigation into 2 million fake comments on net neutrality using stolen identities with people reporting their children or dead relatives have been found to have left comments against net neutrality.

The FCC has refused to cooperate with the investigation and so far appears to be going forward with a vote anyway. Ironically they've even cited 'protecting the privacy' of real commenters as to why they won't hand over IP addresses.
“Moving forward with this vote would make a mockery of the notice and comment process mandated by the Administrative Procedure Act and reward those who perpetrated this fraud in service of their own hidden agenda,” Attorney General Schneiderman wrote. “None of the assertions in your letter justify the FCC’s refusal to share evidence of who committed these illegal acts.”
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Old 12-14-2017, 05:23 PM
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This highly legible text has been removed at The Lone Ranger's request.

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Old 12-14-2017, 05:23 PM
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And I removed this one of my own accord.

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Old 12-14-2017, 06:44 PM
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Maybe it's just my computer, but that link is really messed-up.
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I made a screenshot with a tiny font, but it wouldn't fit.

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Old 12-14-2017, 07:34 PM
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It's not just you, Gizmodo and other places that use Kinja freak the forum out, you have to use the link button and give it a name to link to them instead of letting the forum parse the title.
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Old 12-14-2017, 08:22 PM
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Naw, they can eat a sack of wet asses if they think I'm going to do a special thing to link to them. If they want to be on the internet, they should work the way the internet works.

I'll try harder to remember never to link to Kinja sites.
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Old 12-15-2017, 07:55 AM
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Holy crap. Ok, I give up. America The world is officially a farce now.
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This really does suck, BUT we knew it was going to happen, and one really good thing is that people are paying attention, there's a little better general understanding of what's at stake, and there are already a bunch of ideas floating around about serious, long term solutions.

People have been faffing around with this stuff in obscurity for years, so maybe it's just time to deal with it out in the open.

Ajit Pai baffles me. It's like he's trying to set himself up as the next Martin Shkreli or something, running around mocking people and just acting like an entitled fuckwit. Could he possibly not see that people are rallying around their loathing of him? That he's causing people to pay a lot more attention to the issues by acting like an insufferable tweenaged memelord? The trick with passing things like this through smoothly is to be as boring as possible so people lose interest.

I just can't wrap my head around how bone-assed stupid conservatives are.
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Ajit Pai baffles me. It's like he's trying to set himself up as the next Martin Shkreli or something, running around mocking people and just acting like an entitled fuckwit.
One may need to consider the hypothesis that he is an entitled fuckwit :chin:
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Could he possibly not see that people are rallying around their loathing of him? That he's causing people to pay a lot more attention to the issues by acting like an insufferable tweenaged memelord? The trick with passing things like this through smoothly is to be as boring as possible so people lose interest.
It seems quite possible that Pai enjoys making people angry more than he supports ending net neutrality and helping the telecoms per se.

Triggering the libs seems to be a big motivator of a lot of the Trump administration and their supporters. The fact that you often have little recourse against internet trolls while you can vote government trolls out and making people angry makes them want to go vote... does not seem to enter their thoughts very much. Even after they saw a theocratic racist get beat in Alabama.
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FCC announces streamline comments for just $49.95/month.
That's right! Don't wait behind millions of dead parents and toddlers, have your comments fast tracked with our new monthly service!
You will have the peace of mind knowing that we didn't ignore you, we read your comment and just didn't care!
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Donald Trump Jr. and Ted Cruz lambast Mark Hamillā€™s support of net neutrality | Ars Technica

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.@HammillHimself Luke, I know Hollywood can be confusing, but it was Vader who supported govt power over everything said & done on the Internet. That's why giant corps (Google, Facebook, Netflix) supported the FCC power grab of net neutrality. Reject the dark side: Free the net! @HamillHimself on Twitter: "Cute video Ajit "Aren't I Precious?" Pai šŸ¤®-but you are profoundly unworthy 2 wield a lightsaber-A Jedi acts selflessly for the common man-NOā€¦ https://t.co/NqJpu3wTrZ"

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Donald Trump Jr. and Ted Cruz lambast Mark Hamillā€™s support of net neutrality | Ars Technica

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.@HammillHimself Luke, I know Hollywood can be confusing, but it was Vader who supported govt power over everything said & done on the Internet. That's why giant corps (Google, Facebook, Netflix) supported the FCC power grab of net neutrality. Reject the dark side: Free the net! @HamillHimself on Twitter: "Cute video Ajit "Aren't I Precious?" Pai šŸ¤®-but you are profoundly unworthy 2 wield a lightsaber-A Jedi acts selflessly for the common man-NOā€¦ https://t.co/NqJpu3wTrZ"

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Here's a List of the Members of Congress Who Just Told Ajit Pai to Repeal Net Neutrality...

...and how much money they've taken from the telecom industry.


See whether your representative sold out for less than the others!
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So this damned SESTA-FOSTA shit is not net neutrality exactly, but it is weird and has some serious internet ruining potential. And I've been having a hard time imagining what the point of it is, except that I had this one sort of crackpot theory about a long game, and, well.

So. Back in the 90s, when the internet was really just starting to get serious attention from lawmakers and randos, little issues started popping up around what it was and how it fit in with the legal system and all. People were trying to sort out what was a 'publisher' vs. a 'service,' and who had jurisdiction over various things. Like, whether a DA could charge someone in another state for internet content that violated a law in another state that it was accessed from. Stuff like that. But a really big was this emerging legal argument that anyone who attempted to moderate a website in any way would be considered a 'publisher,' and the only way to safely be considered simply an operator and not responsible for third party content was to never touch anything anyone else posted. Not death threats, not child pornography, not nothing. If you removed anything at all for any reason, lawyers were arguing that you were taking an editorial role and were responsible for everything that was ever posted on your site.

Out of the general panic came a really boneheaded piece of legislation called the Communications Decency Act, much of which was ridiculous and is pretty much void at this point. Except that they added on this one little section, Section 230, that eliminated that moderator's dilemma and offered some limited protections for good faith efforts to clean up offensive or illegal content from sites that allowed third party contributions. That part was pretty good, and for better or worse, it's fundamental to the entire concept of social media. Without that, the internet would be a wildly different place right now. Probably even worse than it currently is.

So then, that Backpage case came along, where some underaged girls who'd been trafficked on the website sued Backpage for damages, and IIRC, a couple of DAs wanted to charge them with violating state laws. Those failed, in part because the lawyers for the victims just didn't make their case. Since then, though, several victims brought much better argued cases and settled out of court with Backpage, Backpage took down their adult services section, and it is an open secret that there is right now a federal grand jury considering the case. All under the CDA 230.

So it's working exactly as intended, and exactly as it should.

So some dingleberries in Congress are going to eliminate it and replace it with the most absurd, misguided, ridiculous law you could imagine. One that reintroduces the moderator's dilemma, and it's hard to tell what else because it is seriously a clusterfuck, but it might actually allow websites to be sued for content that's illegal in any area where the site is accessible, and also, LOL, it can be applied retroactively. Like, it says it is OK to charge people for things that were not crimes when they did them.

So it's garbage, it won't work, and it would in fact make things worse in almost every conceivable way. And at first, I thought maybe it was just dumb guys ginning up a moral panic around one specific case just for political grandstanding and all, but holy fuck, they're going around talking about it, straight up lying about the facts, exploiting a bunch of young women who were forced into prostitution as minors, things like that.

And that is where my crackpot theory comes in. What if this is a long game of some sort, and this is just a wedge issue, and the eventual goal is to institute some kind of Content ID system like they have on YouTube to all social media at the behest of the MPAA/RIAA? You know, this thing that allows big media conglomerates to run bots that automatically steal content from independent artists and stuff like that? That effectively has eliminated fair use on YouTube?

So anyways, I saw this article today, and my theory is that this guy is showing his ass bringing up "Hollywood" apropos of apparently nothing: SESTA's Sponsors Falsely Claim That Fixing SESTA's Worst Problem Harms Hollywood | Techdirt

Nobody ever listens to me when I warn them, but goddamn it, I'm going to write this down here so I can come back later and say I told you so. It's cold comfort, but it's all I ever get.
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While the page was loading I couldn't see the poster but I could see

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So it's garbage, it won't work, and it would in fact make things worse in almost every conceivable way ...
so I was pretty sure who it was by.

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This makes me very self conscious!
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You have style Mr Pea. And substance. And form, as the coppers would say.

Anyway that wasn't the intention :biggrin:
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A modus operandi, one might say.
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