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03-22-2018, 01:49 PM
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Re: News Miscellany
Man tries to commit suicide in Dutch parliament during crime debate - DutchNews.nl
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The man had tried to kill himself and had tied some sort of rope around his neck. The other end was tied to the balcony, NOS said, quoting a police spokesman. The man, who has been taken away in an ambulance, is said to be a 65-year-old from Groenlo in the east of Gelderland.
The Telegraaf says the man is a soft drugs activist who had been demonstrating outside the parliamentary complex for several weeks. He had also announced his plans on Facebook, saying ‘I have to do this to shake up politicians’, the paper said.
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03-22-2018, 04:15 PM
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Were the politicians shaken up?
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03-22-2018, 11:59 PM
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Paniek in Kamer!
And zelfmoord is a pretty logical word.
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03-23-2018, 01:20 AM
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Re: News Miscellany
Groenlo, the man's hometown, is otherwise know as the home of Grolsch beer, some say the best beer in the Netherlands (although some say all kinds of stupid crap it should be remembered, in this case some have a point).
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03-23-2018, 05:32 PM
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Let's call Bolton what he is, a War Criminal with Terrorist Ties, not just "Hawkish"
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"John Bolton helped lie our country into an illegal war of aggression that killed several hundred thousand Iraqis, wounded over a million, and displaced 4 million from their homes, helped deliver Baghdad into the hands of Iran, and helped create ISIL, which blew up Paris. In a just world, Bolton would be on trial at the Hague for war crimes. Instead, he has been promoted into a position to do to Iran what he did to Iraq.
"He is also in the back pocket of the MEK Iranian terrorist organization, which despite its violent and smelly past has proved so useful to those plotting the apocalyptic destruction of Iran that the Washington elite decided to take it off the list of terrorist organizations in 2012.
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03-23-2018, 06:07 PM
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Just keep m'nose clean, egg, chips & beans, I'm always full of steam
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And here I've always been so ambivalent about this fellow before ...
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03-23-2018, 07:22 PM
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The constant demonisation of Trump carries another danger that is underappreciated and may produce a real-world disaster. The US media blames everything on him and respectfully portrays the bevy of generals who populate the upper ranks of his administration – Chief of Staff John Kelly, Secretary of Defence Jim Mattis and National Security Adviser HR McMaster – as the only adults in the room. Yet it may turn out that they and other business and political figures, such as Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and the CIA chief Mike Pompeo, are more likely to bring about a war than Trump himself.
Just how poor is the judgement of the very people who are meant to be a restraining force on Trump was shown last month when Tillerson made a classic blunder that may have negative results for the US for years to come. On 17 January, he announced the US military forces would stay in Kurdish controlled north-east Syria after the defeat of Daesh, in order to weaken Iran and President Bashar al-Assad. Just three days later on 20 January, Turkey, predictably enraged at what it saw as a US territorial guarantee of a de facto Kurdish state, sent its forces across the Syrian border to invade the Kurdish enclave of Afrin.
Tillerson had unwittingly initiated a new phase in the Syrian conflict in which the US is self-isolated and Turkey, Russia, Iran and Assad had been brought closer together. The Kurds in Afrin, one of the few places in Syria not devastated by war, have to hide in caves as the direct result of the new US initiative.
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Patrick Cockburn: Hidden dangers
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I'd say my critique of this article is holding up pretty well.
If Trump's "instincts" include naming John Bolton as National Security Advisor, then they're not particularly non-interventionist. The cossacks work for the czar: Trump is naming the bevy of generals and warmongers to important positions because he likes them and presumably agrees with them - or is overawed by their military credentials and thus is easily persuaded by them.
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03-23-2018, 07:22 PM
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Let me guess: it's all the fault of those who refused to vote for Clinton...
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03-23-2018, 08:06 PM
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You clearly thought that article was insightful or interesting, given that you posted it without any criticism or comment.
If you'd like to discuss it or my critique of it, you can go ahead. You'll notice that I didn't make a reference to Hillary Clinton anywhere in that post.
Do you still think that Trump is unlikely to start a war? Do you think that Glenn Greenwald was correct to say Trump had a "non-interventionist mindset"?
You don't need to make reference to Hillary Clinton, or argue that she was preferable to Trump, to argue that these takes were wrong and predictably wrong even back early in the primaries. How good or bad you think Clinton is irrelevant to the accuracy of that take.
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Let me guess: it's all the fault of those who refused to vote for Clinton...
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Let me guess: You'd rather discuss why you hate Clinton and I'm horrible for voting for her than defend a stupid take about Trump's "cautious instincts". So much easier to deflect to her.
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Exactly why I prefer Trump...
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03-23-2018, 11:39 PM
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03-27-2018, 12:17 AM
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Palestinian media also noticed (unlike the Dutch ones, only pro-Palestinian and extreme-right blogs reported on it in very different language).
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The organizers noted a particular likeness to Hannie Schaft, a heroine of the Dutch antifascist resistance. “Both are praised for their courage, and their striking hair. Hannie Schaft, herself a communist, was given the nickname ‘The girl with the red hair.’ Ahed Tamimi is famous for her striking blond curls and her free-spirited behaviour. In Leiden, therefore, Ahed Tamimi’s nameplate is placed in the Hannie Schaftstraat, joined to the nameplate of Hannie Schaft.”
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Activists rename Dutch streets to honor Ahed Tamimi
Verzetsvrouw means resistance-woman. Hannie Schaft was a communist btw, so not a hero to those extreme-right blogs either...
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03-27-2018, 05:40 PM
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03-27-2018, 06:18 PM
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Safety glasses off, motherfuckers
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Well, there's now strong evidence that the Russians have murdered people on American soil:
Follow the Trail of Dead Russian Bodies! – Balloon Juice
But of course, the actual answer is that both Putin and Netanyahu are awful.
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03-27-2018, 09:12 PM
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Don't you get it? Israel controls everything, but Russia, while "bad", is harmless as a fruit fly.
Israel can control everything, but it's ludicrous to suggest that Russia, with its far larger population, GDP and military budget, etc. could affect anything.
And Putin is far too ethical to try to corrupt politicians or political processes in other countries, of course. So even if we concede any capability, the accusation just falls apart due to the absurdity of the idea that a saintly leader like Putin would try such a thing.
A few significant pieces of evidence are all you need to show that Israel is meddling in, nay, controlling US and UK politics, but the amount of evidence against Russia just proves their innocence and how deep the anti-Russia conspiracy goes, and how invested countries around the world are in excusing Hillary Clinton's disastrous decision not to go to Wisconsin.
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03-28-2018, 06:43 PM
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03-28-2018, 07:55 PM
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03-29-2018, 05:15 PM
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How Opponents of U.K. Labour Leader Corbyn Advanced a Political Coup With Antisemitism Smears | Alternet
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Just as Corbyn’s success stunned the party establishment, his rise infuriated the country’s powerful pro-Israel forces. Corbyn’s parliamentary office has served as a hub for the Palestine solidarity movement and his name has been featured prominently on resolutions condemning Israeli atrocities. At an election forum convened last year by the Labour Friends of Israel, Corbyn redoubled his support for key components of the boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement that is pressuring Israel to respect the human rights of Palestinians while Blair’s favored candidate, Liz Kendall, said she would fight it with “every fiber in my body.”
Just after Corbyn’s victory, Chris Mullins predicted that Labour’s new leader would face a blizzard of smears not unlike the kind Perkins confronted. “The media will go bananas, of course,” Mullins told the Independent. “There will be attempts to paint [Corbyn] as a Trot[skyite]. I think that may already have started. Every bit of his past life will be raked through and every position he has ever taken will be thrown back under him. Former wives and girlfriends will be sought out. His sanity will be questioned.”
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But of course mentioning that smears of 'antisemitism' are used as a political weapon is antisemitism, so that's a nice Catch 22.
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03-29-2018, 05:20 PM
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And this fake news crap is part of the smear campaign too and also fits in with the general campaign to smear Russia/Putin for warmongering and distracting purposes.
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While Boris Johnson may have been an “early adopter” of the “Russia did it” version of events in order to try to outflank Theresa May and increase his odds of being the next Prime Minister (particularly since the support of the intelligence community is now de-rigeur in Western “democracies”), May for her part is facing the threat of losing the next general election to the surging and reinvigorated Labour Party led by Jeremy Corbyn. Skripal case placed Corbyn in the unenviable position of having to either go along with May’s claims or oppose them. He chose the latter course and instantly found himself on the receiving end of a propaganda campaign led by the “impartial” BBC, which was then followed for good measure with a second propaganda campaign aimed at making him appear an anti-Semite due to his support for Palestinian rights. Whether or not this campaign to return Labour to the days of Tony Blair will be successful is yet unclear. The crude use of this tragedy for political purposes does reveal the fragility of UK’s political system, however.
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Skripal Case - The Big Picture
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03-30-2018, 01:06 PM
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03-30-2018, 02:17 PM
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These are not 'clashes', it's a firing squad:
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03-30-2018, 10:13 PM
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