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Old 04-08-2013, 07:59 PM
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I, too, made it through for only about a minute before I had to turn it off.

Now I feel like I need a shower.
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Old 04-08-2013, 09:48 PM
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Women in Comics and in Superhero Films: Why Everyone Should Know About the Hawkeye Initiative

And the creator of Hawkeye Initiative quotes their favorite bit here:

The Hawkeye Initiative • Women in Comics and in Superhero Films: Why Everyone Should Know About the Hawkeye Initiative

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Not to mention the “Women in Refrigerators” trope, when female characters are abused, depowered, or raped and only serve as motivation for a male character to seek revenge.

In effect, boys who read this received completely wrong, potentially destructive messages about female and male gender roles and body image at an age when they are searching for answers to those very questions.
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:22 PM
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Years ago, Mad Magazine or Cracked -- I can't remember which of them now -- had an article called something like, "Which Female X-Man is This?".

They showed a silhouette of the woman in question, and asked you to identify her. The "joke," of course, was that every single one of them had exactly the same silhouette -- right down to the hairstyle. [Except for Jubilee when she was still a teen, and Storm when she briefly sported a Mohawk.]

The exact same figure, the exact same humongous breasts, the exact same hair -- everything.
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Old 04-09-2013, 02:19 PM
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A couple of things I pulled off my feed today.

First up, Red Sonja is coming back! And this time Gail Simone is writing it! And also, the best reason for putting it here:

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Last month Dynamite Entertainment announced a relaunch of Red Sonja, with the new monthly series to be written by Gail Simone. The publisher also revealed plans to have the series' covers be created by a rotating cast of women artists. Today, Dynamite released all six covers for Red Sonja #1, including work from Fiona Staples, Amanda Conner, Colleen Doran, Nicola Scott, Stephanie Buscema, and Jenny Frison[.]
There are variant covers for #1 at the link.


And secondly, I forget where or how I was first found out Rock Paper Shotgun was a thing. I'd check it every once in a while but I felt like I had enough nerdosphere/comic/games news places. It wasn't until recently that RPS was thrust back into my bortosphere over the whole lady geek issues that really rustles jimmies. I've put RPS back into my loop because, as it turns out, they are p awesome.

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Many women are mistreated and misrepresented within the games industry. It’s not a matter of opinion, a political position, or claim made to reinforce previous bias. It’s the demonstrable, sad truth. Ask women in the games industry – find out. That you may not perceive it does not mean it doesn’t exist. That you may not perpetuate it doesn’t mean it isn’t relevant to you. Whether you are male or female or identify anywhere between does not exclude you nor repudiate you from the matter. The amount to which you think it doesn’t exist is directly proportional to the amount to which you do not care that it exists. If you don’t care that it exists, I hope you are willing to be open-minded enough to try to empathise with others that do – at least give that a go. And if you care passionately about it, and feel offended by the tone of this piece as if it doesn’t acknowledge you, then I apologise, and hope you understand why.

I want to try to break down why people object to the discussion, why there is a concerted effort to deny the need for the discussion, and to explain how my own tangential role in it all has affected me. I want to do this because I want to dispel myths, raise awareness, and encourage others to speak out. For those who think such articles are “preaching to the choir”, were that true, I certainly want that choir to be bolstered, encouraged to sing louder and truer. Sadly it’s not entirely true, as is evidenced by the responses any such article receives on RPS. I want to speak to those people too.
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Old 04-09-2013, 02:29 PM
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I love Gail Simones's work and that of the artists involved. Still, I'm sort of surprised at retaining the scale mail bikini. Also, I always assumed Marvel owned that character as she was created for their comics. Perhaps their deal with the Howard estate was different from say, the one with Toho where new characters created for the Godzilla comics belonged to Marvel.
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Old 04-09-2013, 02:52 PM
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I don't know for who owns what character, except for the few Marvel (movie) rights that aren't owned by Marvel (yet).

Sometimes I think I have a handle on the costume thing and sometimes I don't.
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Old 04-09-2013, 03:23 PM
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I, too, made it through for only about a minute before I had to turn it off.

Now I feel like I need a shower.
I watched it all, and if you stopped early you missed the comment about how girls can only appreciate something if a female is the lead but boys can appreciate things no matter who is the lead, so women need to work on their sexism.


I imagine that was said completely unironically.


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I go back and forth on the mail bikini. Sonja is one of those characters where her being mostly undressed most of the time isn't really a problem for me, because Conan. I can accept that she prefers to fight completely unencumbered (although I would think she would want to invest in some sort of Hyborian sports bra). But, then, that's armor? And she's wearing it why? If she's going to fight in the least amount of clothing possible, wouldn't it be more comfortable to just do it up fur loincloth style, like Conan, instead of covering her girly bits with like seven square inches of metal? So, ultimately, I guess, I can accept it, but only if I tell myself that she chooses to wear a few scraps of armor instead of something more comfortable as a sort of taunt, like "LOL this is all the armor I need, suckas!", but that's pretty thin.
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As I recall from Savage Sword, she wore actual armor in the stories, as did Conan. It was IIRC! the later regular sized comics where the bikini became standard. I reread a huge stack of Savage last year, so maybe my memory is true.
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This time it was this cross promotion between WeLoveFine and Kelly Sue DeConnick (the writer of Captain Marvel).
This one is my new favorite shirt from here:

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On the subject of bras, supporting or otherwise, turns out according to French research, they sort of suck.

Bras Make Breasts "Saggier", 15-year French Study Reveals : Physical Wellness : Counsel & Heal

So lose the idea that the chain mail bikini top is doing anything except deflecting a minority of impacts.
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Oh No They Didn't! - DC introduces transgender character in Batgirl.
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Inspired by Anita Sarkeesian’s Video Game Tropes... | Indistinguishable From Magic (click though, I only posted one of several images here)



FUCK YOU ALL and good cancer, Mister or Mizz Dresden Codak! I read this thing and thought for like one and a half glorious seconds that it was actually going to be the next Zelda game and it's just some fan art concept thing you did and IT IS TOO GOOD NOT TO EXIST!
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One of my favorite bloggers had an interesting criticism of the way that introduction was written.

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Alysia’s confession isn’t an organic element of the narrative. It’s utterly forced. Consider the first set off panels above: it’s a series of two-shots emphasizing the bond between Barbara and Alysia that “transitions” to an unnecessarily dramatic close-up on Alysia. Because it’s not as if Barbara’s confession of having been paralyzed and tormented and stalked lacks emotional weight. Her burden is even indicated, visually, by the purple half-bat that haunts her words. She can’t escape what’s been done to her and who she is, not even when she’s telling her own story to herself. Which, again, is all well and good. I adore the confessional mode so long as it doesn’t involve Don Draper talking about swimming. But a narrative written in the confessional mode simply isn’t the best place to have someone other than the confessor make a grand gesture. My editorial work above may be a little dishonest, but it’s certainly indicative of the issue’s overall narrative emphasis. If Simone wanted to have Alysia’s moment be hers, she should’ve placed it in a narrative that didn’t belong to Barbara Gordon, because that makes it seem like an afterthought.
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It's easy to be a critic.

All you have do do is point out that something wasn't done the way you would have in the hypothetical world where you're a primary creator, and not a professional complainer.
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Related to that, a Batgirl cosplayer wearing proper body armor:

Is there any more info on this? This is effing sweet!
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It's easy to be a critic.

All you have do do is point out that something wasn't done the way you would have in the hypothetical world where you're a primary creator, and not a professional complainer.
Unless your complaint is that it's not really art because it wasn't done in the only particular way you consider to be art. In which case, professionally complain all you want!

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TowardTheStars - Robyn
TowardTheStars - Captain AmeriGirl
TowardTheStars - Spider Girl

At first I was like, no just no, because they look all store-boughten and they're supposed to be hand-made with love. Then I remembered the big part of the problem is how things are marketed and packaged at Target and Toys R Us, and that maybe some kids have working moms and dads who don't have time to make their shit by hand.

I really like the Robin one.
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The documentary Wonder Women: The Untold Story Of American Superheroines airs beginning Monday night on PBS's Independent Lens (check local listings), where it tries to connect the dots not just between different iterations of Wonder Woman, but between Wonder Woman and Xena, Buffy Summers, Ellen Ripley, Thelma and Louise, and the riot grrrl movement of the '90s. At only an hour, it's impressively efficient at not just taking a tour of warrior women, but explaining how they've fit themselves to the times over and over again.
Superheroines, Fighters, And Why Isn't There A Wonder Woman Movie? : Monkey See : NPR

I loved Xena, but I never really got into Buffy, beyond the feature film. Probably my favorite heroine was Sarah Connor, and more recently, Leela from Futurama.
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I loved Xena, except for when they did the Very Special Episodes. It got to where, if a 'troubled' or 'misguided' chracter show up in the first ten minutes, I just stopped watching. My favorites were mostly the season she was travelling in Asia and any that had Callisto in them.
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On the subject of bras, supporting or otherwise, turns out according to French research, they sort of suck.

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It's not just that. There's a lot of lymphatic tissue in the breasts. There's some evidence that wearing a brassiere, especially a tight-fitting one, reduces the flow of lymph within the breasts, and so increases the likelihood of breast cancer. We already know that movement of the body is necessary for proper flow of lymph; it seems that by restricting breast movement and so reducing flow of lymph through the breast tissues, bras may [slightly] increase the risk of developing breast cancer.


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Related to that, a Batgirl cosplayer wearing proper body armor:

Is there any more info on this? This is effing sweet!
Nothing that I know of. The image showed up on one of the sites linked to in this thread; I don't even remember which one, now. I saw it and thought, "At last, a sensible Batgirl costume!".
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I must have comma detecting trouble. Because at first I thought that girl was saying she was "transgender Barbara", like her alternate self from another Earth or something.

Also, I saw a kid in a store yesterday wearing a football jersey and a tutu. I thought it was a nice way of balancing gendered clothing.
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My first thought was, "transgender? What way?" MtF I guess. FtM is mostly invisible and other Trans*folk completely so.
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This would be a good retort if it didn't commit you to regarding that this is art.



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