Good King Trump

[Ari]

Originally Posted by davidm

There is no reason why a state like California, which has the seventh-largest world economy, should have to put up with the Red-State yahoos who depend upon the taxes of the residents of California and other blue states, the exact opposite of how Red State residents, force-fed Fox News propaganda, think things really are!

This is quite true when it comes to residents but California can really be separated out into residents and corporations. Many corporations are oh so happy with what the republicans do for them, or in many cases what they prevent the democrats from doing. Our poor labor laws benefit many silicon valley startups quite happily. Hell Uber's entire businessmodel hinges on the idea that none of their drivers work 'for them' and thus don't get the same rights and considerations as people who do.

Even when the republican party is doing things they don't like, this large economy sitting mostly in the hands of corporations does what lots of money does to lots of people, like that Kanye West fella, it insulates and corporations see this more as weathering a stupid storm than any reason to truely revolt.

As far as general residents, then yes, we really should question why we keep giving money to these states that then bully us around, make us the enemy and go against their own stated beliefs of states rights when it suits them.

[erimir]

Originally Posted by davidm

The rot is a virus attacking facts, truth, and rationality itself — and not just among his yahoo supporters. We have seen it here on this forum, where the New York Times, which Trump despises and unceasingly attacks, has been repeatedly characterized as a Vichy collaborator of Trump!

Ironically, this is pretty much the only claim you make that isn't a blatant lie. The Man has called the NYT the Vichy NYT, sure. This is, of course, a subjective judgment of whether their coverage is too soft on him. Much like it was a subjective judgment that "the resistance" (and presumably I, as the starter of that thread) were the equivalent of "Petainists". I didn't see you complaining about that one, of course.

We see it in the claim that The Times, and other news outlets, should not have done their duty-bound job and reported the news

This is a lie.

incredibly, the claim that news outlets should not have reported Comey’s announcement that he was reopening the Clinton e-mail probe

This is indeed incredible, because it is not believable, because it did not happen and is a lie.

There is a reason davidm won't be quoting me saying that.

should not have reported that Rosenstein talked about wearing a wire while talking to Trump

This is also inaccurate but I'm willing to extend the benefit of the doubt that davidm is just being uncharitable rather than blatantly lying (since he has been corrected multiple times on the prior claim, so he ought to know it is definitely a lie). The criticism was about the content and manner of their reporting, not whether it would be newsworthy at all.

the implicit and breathtaking claim that everything, everywhere, should be based on an empire of lies.

This is an amazing level of projection.

The minority vote is now enshrined on the Supreme Court with two justices appointed by this filthy monster in the White House, the second of whom is beyond the pale for reasons not even worth rehashing.

See, now, I'm not going to passive-aggressively reference your past arguments, or mischaracterize what you said. I will directly quote you, because I'm not a liar projecting accusations of dishonesty.

Originally Posted by davidm

I will add that I think Trump, if elected, [...] will not appoint Scalias to the Supreme Court.

You seem to wildly swing from thinking Trump was possibly (probably?) not as bad as Clinton, to using the fact of her popular vote victory being paired with Trump's election now meaning our only viable response is secession and, the very probable result of that, civil war and massive economic dislocation.

[SR71]

Trump sends racist tweet about Andrew Gillum, Democratic gubernatorial candidate in Florida – ThinkProgress

From the Twit in Chief

“In Florida there is a choice between a Harvard/Yale educated man named @RonDeSantisFL who has been a great Congressman and will be a great Governor – and a Dem who is a thief and who is Mayor of poorly run Tallahassee, said to be one of the most corrupt cities in the Country!” Trump tweeted, alluding to Gillum, who is running to become the first black governor in Florida’s history.

A Gillum win would be so .

From the link -

Gillum is an alum of Florida A&M, a highly-rated historically black college and university. Despite what Trump would have you believe, Gillum has never been convicted of a crime.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

A squint and check back tomorrow or next week thrad:

I wasn't going to report on this, but I think my fears are coming true. Based on information that I am privy to, I believe false accusations will be spread about Mueller in order to discredit him and possibly the journalists who are preparing this story. https://t.co/HQXTvPYirD

— Scott Stedman (@ScottMStedman) October 30, 2018

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Welp, here we go.

13 days ago I received this tip alleging an attempt to pay off women to make up accusations of sexual misconduct against Special Counsel Bob Mueller. Other reporters received the same email. Now the Special Counsel's office is telling us they've referred the matter to the FBI pic.twitter.com/oqh4Fnel5u

— Yashar Ali �� (@yashar) October 30, 2018

This started w/ a person claiming to be 'Lorraine' emailing that 'she' worked with Mueller at a law firm in 1974. The law firm she named, Pillsbury, says no Lorraine worked in its S.F. office with Mueller in the 1970's. That's a fact. The rest seems fishier than a tuna sandwich.

— Jane Mayer (@JaneMayerNYer) October 30, 2018

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Gateway Pundit, which published the Jacob Wohl-backed dossier filled with wild accusations about Mueller, is back-pedaling fast. They've taken down the file and are now trying to claim Mueller making a criminal referral to the FBI is an abuse of government power. pic.twitter.com/71uWGQjSfI

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) October 30, 2018

Proof Levels:
Beyond a Reasonable Doubt
Clear And Convincing Evidence
Preponderance of Evidence
Probable Cause
Prima Facie Evidence
Total Lack of Evidence
Level of Evidence Where Gateway Pundit Bails

— PickUpTheVoiceMailMomHat (@Popehat) October 30, 2018

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Oh christ, lol

They did. https://t.co/7y3YvssaJK

— Ronan Farrow (@RonanFarrow) October 31, 2018

[JoeP]

Catch me up on this. A Mueller smear was suspected, then confirmed, and outed as a baseless smear before it went anywhere?

[slimshady2357]

Originally Posted by JoeP

Catch me up on this. A Mueller smear was suspected, then confirmed, and outed as a baseless smear before it went anywhere?

That is the gist of it, but the details are so much funnier. Like amazingly stupid as motherfuckers funny

Some highlights:

Jacob Wohl (hipster coffee shop dude from Twitter, MAGA asshat) claims to have nothing to do with Surefire ('company' involved in the Mueller smear attempt). Turns out he forgot he used his name on the site registration. Patton Oswalt on Twitter: "(Jacob’s name is LITERALLY on the registration for the fake website for the fake company that is making these claims)… https://t.co/8R3ZIoqX2s"

Also turns out a phone number for Surefire redirects to a voicemail account registered to his mom.
Surefire's 'employee' pictures turn out to be various models from stock photos... and Christopher Waltz And Sigourney Weaver's husband.

Pictures of 'Matthew Cohen' the Managing Partner at Surefire are spitting image of Jacob.

This looks like a decent breakdown - Attention Required! | Cloudflare

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Here's another round up: Jacob Wohl and the plot to smear Robert Mueller, explained - Vox

[Ari]

Ya know, for a group that likes to claim everything is a false flag... they sure are bad at false flags!

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Jacob Wohl trying to scam Robert Mueller is like the scene in the first 10 minutes of every Terminator film where a guy punches the robot and breaks his hand

— Mike Drucker (@MikeDrucker) October 30, 2018

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

RPG.net bans vocal support of Donald Trump.

New Ban: Do Not Post In Support of Trump or his Administration

Pull quote:

We are banning support of Donald Trump or his administration on the RPGnet forums. This is because his public comments, policies, and the makeup of his administration are so wholly incompatible with our values that formal political neutrality is not tenable. We can be welcoming to (for example) persons of every ethnicity who want to talk about games, or we can allow support for open white supremacy. Not both.

Not suggesting that policy for this very differently focused forum, but they put a lot of thought into what's right for inclusiveness in a games forum.

[JoeP]

Originally Posted by Ari

Ya know, for a group that likes to claim everything is a false flag... they sure are bad at false flags!

It's not about doing things well ... it's about the millions who'll just think well I never liked Mueller you never know there's probably something to it I don't know who to trust any more I'll just trust a TV game-show host

[JoeP]

Originally Posted by Kamilah Hauptmann

Not suggesting that policy for this very differently focused forum, but they put a lot of thought into what's right for inclusiveness in a games forum.

We don't ban things. We girly-gang them.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Originally Posted by JoeP

We don't ban things. We girly-gang them.

Chumpmuncher, we hardly knew him.

[SR71]

He's probably locked up for meth.

[Limoncello]

What's a girly gang?

[BrotherMan]

It was a term coined by ZEZE I believe. It applies to some nebulous definition of the Thanks-ing mob around here.

I'm not sure exactly when it started, but it's been somewhat discussed around these parts.

[Limoncello]

where do i sign up?

[JoeP]

Originally Posted by Limoncello

where do i sign up?

Try [thanks]ing a lot of posts until someone notices

[Crumb]

I think you can just go here and join: Freethought Forum

[Limoncello]

I wouldn't join a group that would have me for a member.

[Ensign Steve]

Originally Posted by JoeP

Try [thanks]ing a lot of posts until someone notices

WHOA!

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Originally Posted by Kamilah Hauptmann

Here's another round up: Jacob Wohl and the plot to smear Robert Mueller, explained - Vox

With the sheer volume of circus from today's 'press release' I decided to do my one stop shopping with Popehat:

PickUpTheVoiceMailMomHat (@Popehat) | Twitter

Most unintentionally to the point take:

Jack Burkman's fly is down. 🚨🚨🚨

— Jared Holt (@jaredlholt) November 1, 2018