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Old 11-23-2013, 03:01 PM
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Old 11-23-2013, 03:05 PM
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I wish I had the skillz to help. Because it seems like some asshole coming to the attention of Anonymous leads to positive outcomes for the victims.
There might be an opportunity to help, when Anon doxes someone new, you can join the flood of people emailing their bosses and families about what a horrible creep they are.

I say "might" because I honestly have no idea how practical or risky that is, having never looked into it myself. But it's something that could be looked into by properly motivated people.
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Old 11-23-2013, 03:44 PM
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The authorities seem to figure out these wacky computer thingamajigs just fine when they need to prosecute someone for yoinking JSTOR articles, say, or for making a virus that cost corporations some tip money. Funny that.
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Old 11-23-2013, 03:53 PM
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Except that I'm not sure that they do. (not being familiar with those specific examples, I can't say for sure, but in general...) It seems like the cops and judges and politicians and such have this vague idea that hacking and pirating are tantamount to terrorism, without needing to have any technical expertise or even a working definition of any of those words. So they just apply this nebulous blanket umbrella of policy that essentially makes 99% of technology applications illegal, and then pick and choose where to apply it. Bradley Manning? Terrorist! Sony? Obviously just trying to protect themselves from pirates.

Edit: JSTOR and Bradley Manning are the same example, aren't they? Shut up, I know what I'm talking about!!
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Just throwing this out there, but maybe Anonymous is Batman. :batman2:
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Edit: JSTOR and Bradley Manning are the same example, aren't they? Shut up, I know what I'm talking about!!
Both are tragedies, but no, not the same example. JSTOR was the late Aaron Swartz.
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These people have so many enablers is the thing. That's the only reason things like this work.

Anyone who plays into the whole scam by shaming or humiliating or holy fuck firing someone for being victimized is culpable. I mean, that's the reason this sort of shit even exists, because somehow it is considered more shameful for a woman to be seen undressed (even if they're Photoshopped that way) than it is to be a fucking predator. WTF? I sure as hell wouldn't want my kid in a school that punished victims and rewarded predators the way that one teacher's unnamed school did. What does that say about their ability to address bullying in their schools? Sounds like they're pretty solidly on the pro side.

Here is Hunter Moore's new project, in a venue. With opening acts. In a club that is owned by a parent company. Attended by paying customers.

Obviously, his supporters are all enablers at best, too. And they all have their own enablers. Their families and their friends and their employers should be made aware, and if they're supportive, if they're buying them food and clothes and paying for their internet access and their electricity, they're enablers too.

If you're employing someone who spends their spare time, or maybe even company time harassing women on the internet, you should know. You should be aware of the potential liability a person like that could be in a workplace. You should not hire them, and if you've already hired them, you should fire them if possible, and if it's not possible, you should keep a very close eye on them until you can because they pose very clear risks to your other employees. If you don't do that, your company should be known as a company that knowingly employs violent predators.

It would be good if maybe the people who actually did something wrong were the ones looking over their shoulders and worrying about their Google results.
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I thanked that post, but I want to thank it again and again and again.

The whole thing is fucking bang on, but I particularly love these bits:

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These people have so many enablers is the thing. That's the only reason things like this work.

Anyone who plays into the whole scam by shaming or humiliating or holy fuck firing someone for being victimized is culpable. I mean, that's the reason this sort of shit even exists, because somehow it is considered more shameful for a woman to be seen undressed (even if they're Photoshopped that way) than it is to be a fucking predator. WTF?
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Because Anonymous has talent and skillz and the authorities are fucking clueless and more concerned with covering their own asses than helping people. I say this with big time insider's perspective!
From both sides, I imagine.
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Edit: JSTOR and Bradley Manning are the same example, aren't they? Shut up, I know what I'm talking about!!
Both are tragedies, but no, not the same example. JSTOR was the late Aaron Swartz.
Yeah, that's the one where I saw the Anonymous video that I can't find right now where he said that thing I was trying to say about making everything illegal and picking and choosing how to apply it. I wish I could find the video, because he says it way better than me (duh).

Edit: Oh, here it is!

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Anyone who plays into the whole scam by shaming or humiliating or holy fuck firing someone for being victimized is culpable.
This was the thing that brainboggled me when I first read that article. Not for the first time, I was left to wonder about the fucked-up labour laws in the US of A, and the bizarrely prized notion of freedom that means "freedom to be evil to people."
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"At the beginning, it was fun and entertaining, but now it's just like ruining my life," he told investigators."
Running an extortion racket disguised as a revenge porn site is ruining his life? Well boo fucking hoo.
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It amounted to straight up extortion in my amateur understanding of the meaning of that word.
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She's a Daily Mail dream come true!
She's not only unabashedly racist, but a compulsive liar/con-artists who flies off the handle, as compulsive liars do, when even slightly questioned.

Among her more crazy claims is that she subsists on sunlight and air and needs no food or water to survive, do to existing mostly as a spirit entity. You too can learn how to get in touch with your spirit side through air dieting for a price of course. What do you think, air & sunlight are free!?
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I'm not a fan of calling this sort of thing trolling, though.
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OMG prescriptivism! :freakout:
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Well, yeah, I do sort of wish we could preserve the meaning of the term, but more importantly, I think it'd be helpful to call things like stalking, harassment, and death threats what they are. Classifying them all as trolling just gives them some kind of deniability, as though it's the same as the type of 'trolling' they've probably encountered when a ten year old called them a hurtful name on Xbox Live.
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Yeah I agree and that is hopefully the first and last time I will make that "joke". It's just like there's nothing to be done about the hijacking of that word except laugh bitterly.
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I would have been disappointed in you if you'd passed up the prescriptivism burn. I just wanted to clarify what my main problem with it was, because I was being all vague and mysterious about it for some reason.
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Yeah like we don't already fucking know.
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Sorry I'm drunk. At work. I love this job. Good thing I took the shuttle in today! :undrunk:
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