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Thimerosal-Derived Ethylmercury Is a Mitochondrial Toxin in Human Astrocytes: Possible Role of Fenton Chemistry in the Oxidation and Breakage of mtDNA
Martyn A. Sharpe, Andrew D. Livingston, and David S. Baskin
Department of Neurosurgery, The Methodist Hospital, 6565 Fannin Street, Houston, TX 77030, USA
Overdosing Brain Cells With Stuff is Bad | Autismum

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Let’s compare that figure with the levels of Hg found in this study: Mercury levels in premature and low birth weight newborn infants after receipt of thimerosal-containing vaccines which looks the excretion and blood concentrations of mercury. This is relevant, because you cannot get mercury into or past the blood-brain barrier without it being in the bloodstream. Taking Figure 1. The highest amount of blood mercury recorded during this study was roughly 7.6 ng/mL. How does that compare to our 506.48 ug/L from the previous study? Well, that’s rather simple. 1 ng/mL = 1 ug/L. So, the highest amount of blood mercury in the preemies in that study was 7.6 ug/L. (It’s also interesting to note that the stools contained 10 times the amount of mercury – on average – than the blood).

(506.48/7.6) = 66.6

The lowest amount of mercury which caused ROS generation in those astrocyte cells was over 60 times the amount of mercury found in the bloodstream of infants within 48 hours of vaccination. The *average* amount of mercury found in those infants was 3.6 (+/- 2.1) ng/mL or 3.6 ug/L. That means that the cell lines were exposed to 140 times (on average) the amount of mercury than what is found in the bloodstream of premature, low birth weight babies 48 hours after vaccination. So, while direct application of thimerosal might induce ROS generations in a cell culture line, the amounts of thimerosal used for the study are not representative of the typical exposure window, nor do they account for the other biological factors (ADME) which can influence the toxicity to the cell line.
In other words, there might be a problem if you injected orders of magnitude more thimerosal than was ever used directly into the brain.

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Let’s compare that figure with the levels of Hg found in this study: Mercury levels in premature and low birth weight newborn infants after receipt of thimerosal-containing vaccines which looks the excretion and blood concentrations of mercury. This is relevant, because you cannot get mercury into or past the blood-brain barrier without it being in the bloodstream. Taking Figure 1. The highest amount of blood mercury recorded during this study was roughly 7.6 ng/mL. How does that compare to our 506.48 ug/L from the previous study? Well, that’s rather simple. 1 ng/mL = 1 ug/L. So, the highest amount of blood mercury in the preemies in that study was 7.6 ug/L. (It’s also interesting to note that the stools contained 10 times the amount of mercury – on average – than the blood).

(506.48/7.6) = 66.6

The lowest amount of mercury which caused ROS generation in those astrocyte cells was over 60 times the amount of mercury found in the bloodstream of infants within 48 hours of vaccination. The *average* amount of mercury found in those infants was 3.6 (+/- 2.1) ng/mL or 3.6 ug/L. That means that the cell lines were exposed to 140 times (on average) the amount of mercury than what is found in the bloodstream of premature, low birth weight babies 48 hours after vaccination. So, while direct application of thimerosal might induce ROS generations in a cell culture line, the amounts of thimerosal used for the study are not representative of the typical exposure window, nor do they account for the other biological factors (ADME) which can influence the toxicity to the cell line.
Justify justify justify. You cannot prove a cumulative effect that is safe Bur. But if you think you’re 100 percent right, then as a parent you should have the right to make the informed choice to vaccinate your children. Government has no place in this decision.

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In other words, there might be a problem if you injected orders of magnitude more thimerosal than was ever used directly into the brain.

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Again, cumulative issues still exist. The issue is far from settled as you want people to believe. Maybe you are doing this to quell your own misguided choices. :sadcheer:
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Again, cumulative issues still exist. The issue is far from settled as you want people to believe. Maybe you are doing this to quell your own misguided choices. :sadcheer:
There is no credible evidence that vaccines are as dangerous as you want to believe. Every single one of your talking points has been destroyed again and again.
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Again, cumulative issues still exist. The issue is far from settled as you want people to believe. Maybe you are doing this to quell your own misguided choices. :sadcheer:
There is no credible evidence that vaccines are as dangerous as you want to believe. Every single one of your talking points has been destroyed again and again.
The science is far from settled.

IOM Did Not Exonerate Vaccines as Being Safe for Everyone

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You don't get to call someone a loon by cutting and pasting someone's idiotic website that uses libel to attack people who don't believe what he does. Sorry But, but dumb is becoming dumber. :dumb:
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Again, cumulative issues still exist. The issue is far from settled as you want people to believe. Maybe you are doing this to quell your own misguided choices. :sadcheer:
There is no credible evidence that vaccines are as dangerous as you want to believe. Every single one of your talking points has been destroyed again and again.
The science is far from settled.
peacegirl, why are you pretending that you understand vaccination science?

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This is where the rubber hits the road in critical thinking. Critical thinkers always ask themselves what they don’t know, recognizing that gaps in knowledge can lead to faulty reasoning.

Anti-vaxxers never ask themselves what they don’t know. Their cognitive immaturity (and their vanity) leads them to imagine that they know everything worth knowing.

...

They lack the critical thinking skills to answer their own questions. Since they have no understanding of the scientific method, they can’t appreciate that a single, out of date paper is meaningless; only the breadth of the entire literature matters. Since they are incapable of reading that literature, they have no idea what their preferred paper actually shows; they only know what some other anti-vaxxers told them it shows. ... And although they claim to reject arguments from authority they are quick to embrace arguments from anti-vax celebrities.
Anti-vaccine advocacy reflects a spectacular failure of critical thinking | The Skeptical OB
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What is that? It's that holocaust denier Jeff Prager again, right?
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That's disgraceful. The Jews are intentionally depriving the good people of But's country of the truth regarding the so-called "Holocaust."
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What is that? It's that holocaust denier Jeff Prager again, right?
Wait, Jeff Prager? This Jeff Prager?

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I was born a Jew. An Ashkenazi Jew, a Khazar. I had, as a child, very elderly relatives with numbers tattooed on their upper arms. A dozen of them. So I have EVERY RIGHT to ask questions and of course I was certain that I would confirm everything I had been taught in my very American schooling. I was wrong. I confirmed NOTHING and found a wealth of evidence that discredits the mainstream perspective so much so that it appears that at this point a Holocaust as it's described historically just NEVER happened.
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Sealed and guarded since the end of WWII at Arolsen, Germany, the Official IRC records reveal the actual Concentration Camp total death toll was 271,301.

For years, people around the world – “the West” in particular – have been told that “six million Jews were systematically murdered by Germans in ‘Concentration Camps’ during World War 2.”

Thousands of honest people disputing this claim have been viciously smeared as a hateful anti-Semite. Several countries around the world have jailed and heavily fined people for disputing the claim that “6 Million” Jews were killed.

Provided here is a scanned image of an Official International Red Cross document, proving the so-called “Holocaust” [the long-and-often-claimed-6-million Jews] is just plain wrong.
Of course, peacegirl's source Jeff Prager directly contradicts the Authentic Text on this point:



peacegirl, which do you reject: your source Jeff Prager or the Authentic Text?
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Remember when peacegirl was scrambling to show that the statements of Jeff Prager and the statements in the Authentic Text were not really inconsistent? Good times! Maybe she'll start that shit up all over again.

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I really dont know where to begin. I just hope any guest reading these posts can see the lies, the slick answers as to divert attention from the central issue of vaccine injury. The way these lawyers think is about winning their case. It has nothing to do with whether they could be mistaken. They would never admit it. Ego is too strong. They know they cannot defend their position without flagrant deception, so what do they do? They bring up unrelated issues into the fold for fear of losing the debate. They will do whatever they can to protect their image even if their MO is underhanded and more importantly flawed. I am not posting for them. I am posting to help rational individuals to take everything into consideration before jabbing their children with so many vaccines and so many toxic adjuvants even though there are big penalties for not complying. So unfortunate that it has come to this.
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Dearest lurkers, you are imaginary. But, ChuckF, The Man, chunksmediocrites (sometimes), Dragar (sometimes) and I are the only people still reading this thread. However, despite your nonexistence, you lurkers deserve to understand what's going on.

peacegirl has done her part for society. She raised four children to healthy, productive adulthood. Thus, despite the fact that peacegirl herself been taking taxpayer money under false pretenses for years and years, she's made valuable contribution, one she can rightly be proud of.

Trouble is, peacegirl is quite elderly and has outlived her usefulness. This anti-vax stuff is her attempt at recapturing the relevancy that has long since disappeared over the horizon.

When reviewing peacegirl's claims and those of her sources (claims that are identical, for reasons that will soon become apparent), please keep in mind the four questions (referenced in the article cited above) that form the foundation of all critical thinking:

1. What do I know?
2. How do I know it?
3. What don't I know?
4. How do I learn what I don't know?

peacegirl considers herself an expert on vaccine science and safety. In truth, she knows nothing at all about those subjects. She simply believes what anti-vax celebrities say about the topic because she wants those statements to be true.

For people like peacegirl - people openly hostile to critical thinking - "knowledge" consists exclusively of what their preferred sources tell them. In peacegirl's case, only headlines truly matter. (She's been caught literally dozens of times in this very thread posting stuff she didn't actually read.) Picture a young child who thinks addition and subtraction are the be-all and end-all of mathematics because s/he doesn't know anything else. peacegirl and her fellow anti-vaxxers are a lot like that, and their sole sources of "knowledge" are one another.

As to lack of knowledge, you won't see me pontificating about vaccine science or safety. Why? Because I know what I don't know, and one of the many subjects on which I am not qualified to pontificate is vaccine science and safety. Not so with peacegirl and the other anti-vaxxers. Vanity and mental immaturity lead them to believe that they know everything that's worth knowing about not only vaccines but every other subject on which they see fit to hold forth. Just look at the plethora of subjects on which peacegirl claims expertise. The lure of thinking oneself an expert without putting in the time and effort required to actually become an expert is strong with such people, i.e., lazy and incompetent people. As peacegirl's antics clearly display, celebrity worship/cult of personality is a major factor was well.

Finally, regarding how to learn what one doesn't know, :lol:. Anti-vaxxers believe they already know everything worth knowing, so they simply never ask this question. As peacegirl's behavior in this thread shows, anti-vaxxism is a religion. "Lord Andy said it, I believe it, that settles it." Anyone who claims otherwise is a "pharma shill" or a "sheeple."

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UPDATE 1/7/2018

Utah Teen Dies from Gardasil Vaccine Injuries
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The film VAXXED continues to be shown in new cities across the U.S., with the film crew also traveling to these cities to sponsor Q&A sessions after the filming. Producer Del Bigtree states that the story of the CDC whistleblower and cover-up told in the film is “Bigger than Watergate.”

The film crew also often films parents of vaccine damaged or vaccine killed children who turn out to view the film and tell their own stories.

The story in the video below is about Colton Berrett, who received the Gardasil HPV vaccine at 13 years old, and soon afterwards became paralyzed from the neck down. After many months of recovery, he still needs a breathing apparatus and still suffers some paralysis.

His mother states in the interview that they are still seeing the same pediatrician, who reported the vaccine to VAERS, and no longer gives the vaccine to boys, and cautions girls as well.

Colton has regained his speech, and also speaks during the interview.

cont. at: 13 Year Old Boy Becomes Paralyzed from Neck Down After Gardasil HPV Vaccine
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Death and Disability from the HPV Vaccine

170 Deaths Following Gardasil Reported to VAERS as of August 2014

"Gardasil will become the greatest medical scandal of all times because at some point in time, the evidence will add up to prove that this vaccine, technical and scientific feat that it may be, has absolutely no effect on cervical cancer and that all the very many adverse effects which destroy lives and even kill, serve no other purpose than to generate profit for the manufacturers." - Dr Bernard Dalbergue

A recent paper in the journal Molecular Cytogenetics indicates that HPV is not the cause of cervical cancer. Read the analysis by Norma Erickson and Peter H. Duesberg, PhD

Healthy Wisconsin Girl, 12, Dead a Few Hours After Her First Gardasil Shot (click to read)
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Default Re: Parents, do your due diligence on vaccination! There are serious risks!!

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Peter H. Duesberg, PhD
The dangerous crackpot who is directly or indirectly responsible for tens or hundreds of thousands of HIV deaths in South Africa.

Oh, just fuck off.
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