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The standard for determining who is, and is not, a loon is based on this individual's extreme bias.
No, it's mostly based on the kind of loony shit they say.
It's amazing how peacegirl thinks she has the moral and intellectual standing to criticize someone who is an actual accomplished, published researcher. She hardly even reads the news articles associated with the research, let alone read the research papers she claims support her ideas.


Dr. Gorski hasn't unethically experimented on children. If he ever does, maybe then peacegirl will listen to what he says.
Actually, I do read news articles associated with research. But some of the studies on vaccination are slanted or are incomplete. They don't tell the whole story. I wish you would stop polarizing the medical community by blithely inserting "unethical experimentation on children". It's a red herring. Do you think it's ethical for the FDA to approve drugs that are a known heart attack risk? Below is an abstract discussing a serious adverse reaction that can occur when aluminum hydroxide is used as an adjuvant.

Clinical Features in Patients with Long-Lasting Macrophagic Myofasciitis
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I wish you would stop polarizing the medical community by blithely inserting "unethical experimentation on children".
I think the medical community is not polarized at all about unethically experimenting on children. People who are caught doing so typically get their license to practice medicine revoked.

Just like Andy Wakefield had his license to practice medicine revoked for unethically experimenting on children.
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I wish you would stop polarizing the medical community by blithely inserting "unethical experimentation on children".
It's not really that polarizing. Generally, the medical community thinks that unethical experimentation on children is bad.

The only people who don't think that tend to be the quacks like Andy Wakefield, who unethically experiment on children.
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Below is an abstract discussing a serious adverse reaction that can occur when aluminum hydroxide is used as an adjuvant.

Clinical Features in Patients with Long-Lasting Macrophagic Myofasciitis
But some of the studies on vaccination are slanted or are incomplete. They don't tell the whole story.
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Dr. WHOThe increase in the number of cases diagnosed in France in the last few years may also be explained by a change of vaccine administration from the subcutaneous to the intramuscular route, or the introduction of the hepatitis B vaccine to a naïve adult population likely to respond with a stronger local inflammatory response than to booster immunizations. However, hepatitis B vaccine has also been given to adults in other countries where MMF has not been detected. Furthermore, MMF has also been observed in French adults following tetanus and DT boosters but not in other countries where these vaccines have also been widely used. Finally, the acute rise in the number of cases observed since 1998 is suggested to reflect increased detection rates.

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According to prosecutors, the boy suffered from Type 1 diabetes, for which he was prescribed insulin from a pediatrician.

The victim’s mother met Morrow at a herbal healing seminar. Then in August of 2014, Morrow was called to the victim’s home after the boy became semi-comatose due to complications from diabetes, the DA’s office said.

Morrow, prosecutors allege, advised the parents to administer herbal oils that he was selling, instead of the prescribed insulin. The boy died from a cardiac arrest the following day.
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Dr. WHOThe increase in the number of cases diagnosed in France in the last few years may also be explained by a change of vaccine administration from the subcutaneous to the intramuscular route, or the introduction of the hepatitis B vaccine to a naïve adult population likely to respond with a stronger local inflammatory response than to booster immunizations. However, hepatitis B vaccine has also been given to adults in other countries where MMF has not been detected. Furthermore, MMF has also been observed in French adults following tetanus and DT boosters but not in other countries where these vaccines have also been widely used. Finally, the acute rise in the number of cases observed since 1998 is suggested to reflect increased detection rates.

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Even if they are identifying this condition due to better detection, this is a serious condition that needs intense research.

Macrophagic myofascitis lesions assess long-term persistence of vaccine-derived aluminum hydroxide in muscle
Article (PDF Available)  in Brain 124(Pt 9):1821-31 · October 2001 with 118 Reads
DOI: 10.1093/brain/124.9.1821 · Source: PubMed

Macrophagic myofascitis lesions assess long-term persistence of vaccine-derived aluminum hydroxide in muscle (PDF Download Available)
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The victim’s mother met Morrow at a herbal healing seminar. Then in August of 2014, Morrow was called to the victim’s home after the boy became semi-comatose due to complications from diabetes, the DA’s office said.

Morrow, prosecutors allege, advised the parents to administer herbal oils that he was selling, instead of the prescribed insulin. The boy died from a cardiac arrest the following day.
Another concerned mother just trying to improve the germ-line DNA. This is the essence of holistic health!
There are bad apples in every field. That doesn't mean you throw out the entire field Chuck. How narrow-minded can you be? :duh:
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Below is an abstract discussing a serious adverse reaction that can occur when aluminum hydroxide is used as an adjuvant.

Clinical Features in Patients with Long-Lasting Macrophagic Myofasciitis
But some of the studies on vaccination are slanted or are incomplete. They don't tell the whole story.
That is true. That means there could be gaps in knowledge on both sides. That is why parents should be given the right to make their own informed choices as to what they believe is in the best interest of their child. That is also why government has no place threatening families to the point where they are given no choice.
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Old 03-08-2018, 05:09 PM
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Even if they are identifying this condition due to better detection, this is a serious condition that needs intense research.
So did you purposefully ignore the bold parts that mention this affecting people in France significantly more than anywhere else?
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Even if they are identifying this condition due to better detection, this is a serious condition that needs intense research.
So did you purposefully ignore the bold parts that mention this affecting people in France significantly more than anywhere else?
So what's your point? Are you implying that this adverse effect isn't real?
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So what's your point? Are you implying that this adverse effect isn't real?
No it seems to be real... if you live in France.
So I'm going to assume that yes, you did purposefully ignore the bold just like MMF ignores countries that aren't France.
Odd for a vaccine injury to be country specific don'tcha think?

Must be Big Pharmage!
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Morrow, prosecutors allege, advised the parents to administer herbal oils that he was selling, instead of the prescribed insulin. The boy died from a cardiac arrest the following day.
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There are bad apples in every field. That doesn't mean you throw out the entire field Chuck. How narrow-minded can you be? :duh:
That is why parents should be given the right to make their own informed choices as to what they believe is in the best interest of their child. That is also why government has no place threatening families to the point where they are given no choice.
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Even if they are identifying this condition due to better detection, this is a serious condition that needs intense research.
So did you purposefully ignore the bold parts that mention this affecting people in France significantly more than anywhere else?
So what's your point? Are you implying that this adverse effect isn't real?
Not all truths can be revealed using the "scientific method" and as a result the conclusions drawn can be very misleading.
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Morrow, prosecutors allege, advised the parents to administer herbal oils that he was selling, instead of the prescribed insulin. The boy died from a cardiac arrest the following day.
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There are bad apples in every field. That doesn't mean you throw out the entire field Chuck. How narrow-minded can you be? :duh:
That is why parents should be given the right to make their own informed choices as to what they believe is in the best interest of their child. That is also why government has no place threatening families to the point where they are given no choice.
It also seems premature for the medical examiner to rule out that the herbs caused the child's death. After all, he died right after receiving them.
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Morrow, prosecutors allege, advised the parents to administer herbal oils that he was selling, instead of the prescribed insulin. The boy died from a cardiac arrest the following day.
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There are bad apples in every field. That doesn't mean you throw out the entire field Chuck. How narrow-minded can you be? :duh:
That is why parents should be given the right to make their own informed choices as to what they believe is in the best interest of their child. That is also why government has no place threatening families to the point where they are given no choice.
It all depends on how good the research is. If there are risks in a procedure that could lead to serious harm, it is not up to government to tell parents what to do. It's about weighing the pros and cons. When it comes to vaccination, it is an incomplete science. Some children can get hurt from the vaccination that was meant to help him. You know this as well as I do. You just want to argue for the sake of argument.
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It all depends on how good the research is. If there are risks in a procedure that could lead to serious harm, it is not up to government to tell parents what to do. It's about weighing the pros and cons. When it comes to vaccination, it is an incomplete science. Some children can get hurt from the vaccination that was meant to help him. You know this as well as I do. You just want to argue for the sake of argument.
It's so funny to me. You can't give my post two seconds of thought which just confirms what a total fraud you are.
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In Peacegirl land the rare risk of a condition in France allows people in the US to deny treatment. It's just like how the risk of astronauts suffocating on the moon gives me the right to scream about everyone stealing my air on earth.
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What the actual hell. Why is the government bringing down its filthy jackboot onto the righteous throat of this brave healer, whose only "crime" was facilitating exactly the sort of wholesome, 100% natural eugenics for which peacegirl has been advocating since the beginning of this thread?

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In Peacegirl land the rare risk of a condition in France allows people in the US to deny treatment. It's just like how the risk of astronauts suffocating on the moon gives me the right to scream about everyone stealing my air on earth.
The fact remains that something in the vaccines in France could be a warning sign. Why in the world wouldn’t you, if you’re a parent, want to delve more deeply into the cause. What is wrong with you people? :eek:
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Lookie here! Old Janis accidentally told a truth. The Encyclopedia of American Loons is in fact not peacegirl's bible. She has written elsewhere that Seymour Lessans' rape book is her bible. :yup:
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The fact remains that something in the vaccines in France could be a warning sign.
Do you think France gets a different vaccine than other EU countries?
Wouldn't you think it prudent to find out why people in France are getting this illness, although there are cases where it has been found in children and adults in other countries. Why are you so resistant to learning the truth? I guess you think you're completely safe if you don't live in France. :stupid:

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Lookie here! Old Janis accidentally told a truth. The Encyclopedia of American Loons is in fact not peacegirl's bible. She has written elsewhere that Seymour Lessans' rape book is her bible. :yup:
You're insane!
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The fact remains that something in the vaccines in France could be a warning sign.
Do you think France gets a different vaccine than other EU countries?
Maybe the scientists in other countries aren't noticing the correlation between aluminum hydroxide and injection into the deltoid muscle rather than injection subcutaneously. I haven't researched this, but this type of administration may be specific to France. If you find anything about this, please share.
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