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This is the most brazen act of Obamacare sabotage yet - Vox

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Senate GOP tries one last time to repeal Obamacare - POLITICO
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John McCain has come out against the Graham-Cassidy fuckery, but I think the NY Times is jumping the gun a bit in describing the proposal as "likely doom[ed]."

There's three other GOP senators in the mix here, namely Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski and Rand Paul. Two of the three must vote no, else the thing passes and the issue gets kicked to a House-Senate Conference Committee, which would have the unenviable job of trying to make a single piece of legislation out of Graham-Cassidy and the knobbish nonsense the House passed earlier this year.

Collins appears to me the most reliable no vote. She appears genuinely uninterested in dumping the ACA for the sake of dumping the ACA, which is about all Graham-Cassidy does.

Paul's stated opposition runs along the same lines as that of the lunatic "Freedom Caucus" in the House, i.e., Graham-Cassidy doesn't get us close enough to a Hobbesian state of nature. That's consistent with Paul's beloved lolbertarian rhetoric, but the rhetoric generally gives way when it clashes with GOP orthodoxy. Plus, Paul is crazy and kinda stupid, so anyone who counts on him for anything at all does so at his own peril.

The GOP remains convinced that Murkowski's vote can be bought. Back in July, Murkowski told Bloomberg that there's no point in trying to buy her off by placing Alaska-specific goodies in a repeal bill, since any proposal that's not viable nationwide would screw over her state just the same. That didn't stop the GOP from devising the "Kodiak Kickback," which ultimately failed.

The GOP leadership's takeway from the last round was not that Murkowski's vote on undoing the ACA is not for sale, but rather that they didn't offer enough last time. The current proposal, supposedly, involves letting Alaska keep the ACA.
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I don't trust Paul, but assuming G-C fails, I suspect he picked the right positioning for his own career - opposing ACA, opposing G-C because it's not right-wing enough, but sparing Kentucky from devastating cuts to its healthcare system, as a state that expanded Medicaid and has had one of the best performing ACA marketplaces.

But that's what he said last time and he flip-flopped into McConnell's lap for very little.

The proposal to let Alaska keep Obamacare might not even be constitutional.

If Murkowski wants to run again, the fact is that she got elected vs. a Republican as a write-in in 2010, and against a strong Libertarian challenge from the same guy in 2016. She's not as beholden to the crazy GOP base as a result (a significant portion of her votes in 2010 and 2016 came from Begich and/or Obama voters). And she did get cheering crowds after killing the bill the first time. And she's not up until 2022, when the political climate and players could be totally different. Would Trump and McConnell be around? Would they or others still be trying to punish her for stopping Obamacare repeal? And if Trump was still around, history suggests the GOP would still be losing seats as they did in 2006, and the Democrats did in 2014. Hell, she might have a better chance in that scenario by switching to the Democratic Party or becoming an independent - Begich only lost by 2% in 2014, and that was a bad year for Democrats.

Which is to say that the political incentives probably push more against voting for the bill.

Question then is more whether she actually likes it enough to vote for it anyway.
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Huh.

Lindsey Graham Fights Back Tears Defending John McCain From Trump's Attacks | HuffPost

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John if youre listening ... nobody respects you more than I do. Graham said during a CNN debate Monday night. So to any American whos got a problem with John McCains vote, all I can tell you is that John McCain was willing to die for this country, and he can vote any way he wants to, and it doesnt matter to me in terms of friendship.
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Health Care Reform Reform Dead

The GOP's Latest Obamacare Repeal Bill Is Dead | HuffPost
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Trump signs order to eliminate ACA insurance rules, undermine marketplaces - The Washington Post

I'm sure this will fix all our health care woes, and nothing will get worse at all...
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