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It can be argued both ways. In the civil law, at least, "intent" means that the actor: (1) desired to cause a consequence; or (2) believed that the consequence was substantially certain to occur. RESTATEMENT (SECOND) OF TORTS § 8A (1965). Item (2) is sometimes know in legal circles as the "any idiot would know" test for assessing intent.

It seems unlikely that peacegirl actively desired little Adolf's death. However, she deliberately altered the Authentic Text - a foolproof blueprint for world peace between 1975 and 1980 - and purposely promoted the corruptions as the author's own work. The flawless blueprint would have permeated all aspects of human endeavor, including dog training. On the facts herein, a credible argument can be made that any idiot would have known changing the Authentic Text, and hawking the resultant Corrupted Text in the service of Mammon, would have resulted in a dog dying exactly as poor Adolf did this past weekend. Based on that argument, a jury could reasonably conclude that peacegirl "intended" Adolf's death as the law defines that term. :sadcheer:
Agreed, counselor; one wonders, too, how a court of law may consider damages incurred in reliance upon the Corrupted Text, the same having been deceptively (and knowingly, with purpose and intent) introduced into commerce bearing the indicia of the Authentic Text such that a reasonable consumer - and indeed, a reasonable leading scientist - may be induced to believe, and to rely upon such belief to his or her detriment, that it was, in fact, the Authentic Text.
That is an excellent point - and we know the author (and messiah) himself felt that the simple act of not reading the book and implementing it's ideas was grounds enough to attempt to sue the president of the United States.

What is sauce for the apples is sauce for the pears: if not agreeing with the book when your actions influence a large and influential part of the world is enough to warrant a lawsuit, then surely changing the text without clearly distinguishing her own ideas from those of a messiah is as well.

More so even: not using the book is merely delaying it. But corrupting it risks ensuring it never gets put into practice at all. What if no-one had ever found the authentic text and felt the PG's drivel is all that existed?

Well, come to think of it, what would happen is what we are seeing now: no-one would take it at all seriously. 100% of people who are not peacegirl and who read the book find it a load of nonsense. 96% of people who are exposed to the authentic text find it engaging enough to side with a True Steward.

As a fan of proof-pudding, PG will surely see that the recipe for it in this case should involve a generous helping of crow.

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It can be argued both ways. In the civil law, at least, "intent" means that the actor: (1) desired to cause a consequence; or (2) believed that the consequence was substantially certain to occur. RESTATEMENT (SECOND) OF TORTS § 8A (1965). Item (2) is sometimes know in legal circles as the "any idiot would know" test for assessing intent.

It seems unlikely that peacegirl actively desired little Adolf's death. However, she deliberately altered the Authentic Text - a foolproof blueprint for world peace between 1975 and 1980 - and purposely promoted the corruptions as the author's own work. The flawless blueprint would have permeated all aspects of human endeavor, including dog training. On the facts herein, a credible argument can be made that any idiot would have known changing the Authentic Text, and hawking the resultant Corrupted Text in the service of Mammon, would have resulted in a dog dying exactly as poor Adolf did this past weekend. Based on that argument, a jury could reasonably conclude that peacegirl "intended" Adolf's death as the law defines that term. :sadcheer:
Agreed, counselor; one wonders, too, how a court of law may consider damages incurred in reliance upon the Corrupted Text, the same having been deceptively (and knowingly, with purpose and intent) introduced into commerce bearing the indicia of the Authentic Text such that a reasonable consumer - and indeed, a reasonable leading scientist - may be induced to believe, and to rely upon such belief to his or her detriment, that it was, in fact, the Authentic Text.
That is an excellent point - and we know the author (and messiah) himself felt that the simple act of not reading the book and implementing it's ideas was grounds enough to attempt to sue the president of the United States.

What is sauce for the apples is sauce for the pears: if not agreeing with the book when your actions influence a large and influential part of the world is enough to warrant a lawsuit, then surely changing the text without clearly distinguishing her own ideas from those of a messiah is as well.

More so even: not using the book is merely delaying it. But corrupting it risks ensuring it never gets put into practice at all. What if no-one had ever found the authentic text and felt the PG's drivel is all that existed?

Well, come to think of it, what would happen is what we are seeing now: no-one would take it at all seriously. 100% of people who are not peacegirl and who read the book find it a load of nonsense. 96% of people who are exposed to the authentic text find it engaging enough to side with a True Steward.

As a fan of proof-pudding, PG will surely see that the recipe for it in this case should involve a generous helping of crow.
You're all a bunch of imposters pretending to be free thinkers! You all copy each other just as any group would act when there is a hierarchy where everyone aligns themselves with the loudest and the one with the sharpest tongue. It gets to the point where people stop thinking for themselves and side with the group. They may even take in the leader's mannerisms and repeat the same mantra over and over again to where people lose their ability to think for themselves. Sort of like the Stockholm syndrome even as the lies keep building on one another. You have no minds of your own!
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You're all a bunch of imposters pretending to be free thinkers! You all copy each other just as any group would act when there is a hierarchy where everyone imitates those who are the loudest and the most verbal. It gets to the point where people stop thinking for themselves and thoughtlessly join the pack. Sort of like Stockholm syndrome. You have no minds of your own!
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We really ought to have a warning sign or something: if you have invented the perpetuum mobile, or proven that all of physics is wrong because time is just, you know, different man, or discovered the grand conspiracy by which World Veganism secretly influences world politics, then there is no freethought here. None at all. Never ever any teensy scrap.

But I do want to get this straight:

Not implementing the plans in the authentic text is a bad thing if you are in a position to do so, enough to warrant trying to start a lawsuit. After all, it could stop war, poverty, crime, fat chicks and badly cooked spaghetti. (I may be quoting the corrupted version here actually, but we have a true Steward who can correct any mistakes I inadvertently make.)

Changing the authentic text without making it clear what changes are yours, badly damaging it's credibility and general appeal in the process, and then trying to sell it for over 40 bucks a pop is not?

The latter could interfere with the future of the knowledge! How utterly irresponsible to meddle with it... how can you be sure you did not do damage to it? Are you a genius capable of Astute Observation? If not, then you cannot be sure that the changes you made were correct!

This is worse than a medical practitioner saying he is sure which is better, formula or fresh male breastmilk! At least the medical practitioner only affects a few people. This is pretending you know what is best for all current and future generations of mankind when you cannot possibly be sure that you are correct!
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And, at least, the medical practitioner does not levy a fee!
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I have awarded myself the title Citizen Doctor. The duty of such a self-certified professional is responding to all medical questions with "I don't know; you should do whatever you think is best" and magnanimously declining to accept payment for the non-advice. It will be the easiest job I've ever had, though not especially lucrative.
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Stephen Maturin, it is undeniable that with all of your reading and thinking, you have at least a Ph-Ph-Ph-Ph-D, Good Citizen Doctor. Now go, provide no counsel and take no fee, and by thine own teat suckle the hungry child, if thou knowest that thou shall be blamed not.
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You're all a bunch of imposters pretending to be free thinkers!
We really ought to have a warning sign or something: if you have invented the perpetuum mobile, or proven that all of physics is wrong because time is just, you know, different man, or discovered the grand conspiracy by which World Veganism secretly influences world politics, then there is no freethought here. None at all. Never ever any teensy scrap.

But I do want to get this straight:

Not implementing the plans in the authentic text is a bad thing if you are in a position to do so, enough to warrant trying to start a lawsuit. After all, it could stop war, poverty, crime, fat chicks and badly cooked spaghetti. (I may be quoting the corrupted version here actually, but we have a true Steward who can correct any mistakes I inadvertently make.)

Changing the authentic text without making it clear what changes are yours, badly damaging it's credibility and general appeal in the process, and then trying to sell it for over 40 bucks a pop is not?

The latter could interfere with the future of the knowledge! How utterly irresponsible to meddle with it... how can you be sure you did not do damage to it? Are you a genius capable of Astute Observation? If not, then you cannot be sure that the changes you made were correct!

This is worse than a medical practitioner saying he is sure which is better, formula or fresh male breastmilk! At least the medical practitioner only affects a few people. This is pretending you know what is best for all current and future generations of mankind when you cannot possibly be sure that you are correct!
You've gotten to be just like them. It's like the walking dead! :laugh:
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I don't care what book you read Maturin.
peacegirl, whether you care or not, I will read the Authentic Text that Seymour Lessans wrote and published during his own lifetime. I will not read the Corrupted Text. We know that the Corrupted Text is a "rafael," which the :ff: dictionary defines as "[a] text rewritten without the author's knowledge or consent that the rewriter falsely claims is what the author actually wrote."
I knew you didn't read any book, for that matter. That accounts for why you're so confused. Now it all makes sense. :yup:
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I don't care what book you read Maturin.
peacegirl, whether you care or not, I will read the Authentic Text that Seymour Lessans wrote and published during his own lifetime. I will not read the Corrupted Text. We know that the Corrupted Text is a "rafael," which the :ff: dictionary defines as "[a] text rewritten without the author's knowledge or consent that the rewriter falsely claims is what the author actually wrote."
I knew you didn't read any book, for that matter. That accounts for why you're so confused. Now it all makes sense. :yup:
If you don't agree with Peacegirl and her corrupted text, then you didn't read it. Wow! the world is so simple for Peacegirl.
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Today I buried little Adolf in a shoebox in my backyard. #ripAdolf :cry:

Dark clouds scudded overhead, and the wind made a strange ululating noise through the bare branches of the trees that resembled blackened nerve endings. Fighting through my arthritis and emaciation and clad in a parka against the cold, with effort I broke through the icy earth with a shovel and laboriously cast aside clods of dirt as hard as rocks while my breath steamed out in white clouds. Adolf lay on his back on the ground in a state of rigor mortis, all four limbs stretched stiffly upward. A rictus of a snarl or grin bared his dagger-like teeth, bits of ankle flesh from his rendezvous with the mailman still clinging to them. His eyes were open and they shone like glassy marbles, no longer focusing on anything in particular but somehow seeming to see all the way into the void immensities, the Undiscovered Country that awaits us all on the Other Side of the River Styx.

When I was done digging the hole I gently lifted him and placed him inside the shoebox with his favorite squeaky chew toy. Futilely but instinctively I punched some air holes into the lid and then lowered the lid over the box and placed the box in the ground and then I shoveled clods of dirt over the hole to cover it and the box. When I was done I rested on the shovel the way that Jesus must have briefly rested upon his Cross during his Way of Sorrows. :jesus: Snow began to whirl down and tears fell from my eyes. They turned to bitter icicles upon my blanching cheeks.

In my mind’s eye I seem to see Jesus capering across the heavenly clouds, running full tilt, legs kicking up from under his robes and his Cross slung over his shoulder. In hot pursuit is a little black inkblot bounding and leaping and yapping: Yap! Yap! Yap! Grrr! Yap! Strands of mailman tendon still dangle from Adolf’s precious jaws …

And now I know, thanks to the generous pro bono work of Counselor Maturin, that peacegirl intended to kill my little Adolf as the law defines that term! :cry:

MURDERESS!! BULLY!! :mad:
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Find solace, Flo, that, though he could not recognize you by sight alone, kleiner Adolf's germinal substance abides.
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Another day, another example of peacegirl ravaging the Authentic Text for her own craven purposes. That's ... unsurprising.

I was saddened to read of Miss Flo's loss.

#ripAdolph

On the other hand, I am awash in anticipation over the prospect of seeing what wonders lie beyond the door marked "My Penis is Like a Phallic Symbol," one of many original Authentic Text statements that fell victim to peacegirl's depredations.


I never disagreed with my own quote. You misunderstood.
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Now that I have shown you where you were wrong in your summary,
peacegirl, please, for the sake of Seymour Lessans - hell, for your own sake as well - just shut up. Again, there is no "[my] summary." I provided a one-sentence summary of your father's two-sided equation. It was not "[my] summary" but rather a direct quote from your own Corrupted Text. You disagreed with that quote. You disagreed in 2013 when the original conversation occurred, and you disagreed again just this past Friday.
Please show me the quote again and I will show you where there is a misunderstanding.
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Another day, another example of peacegirl ravaging the Authentic Text for her own craven purposes. That's ... unsurprising.

I was saddened to read of Miss Flo's loss.

#ripAdolph

On the other hand, I am awash in anticipation over the prospect of seeing what wonders lie beyond the door marked "My Penis is Like a Phallic Symbol," one of many original Authentic Text statements that fell victim to peacegirl's depredations.


I never disagreed with my own quote. You misunderstood.
Now that I have shown you where you were wrong in your summary,
I was not wrong in my own summary.

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peace girl, please, for the sake of Seymour Lessans - hell, for your own sake as well - just shut up. Again, there is no "[my] summary." I provided a one-sentence summary of your father's two-sided equation. It was not "[my] summary" but rather a direct quote from your own Corrupted Text. You disagreed with that quote. You disagreed in 2013 when the original conversation occurred, and you disagreed again just this past Friday. Why should anyone listen to a word you say when you apparently don't even know the contents of your own Corrupted Text? :sad-cheer
I did not disagree with my own text. Show me where and I will show you where you misunderstood.

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I hope in the reflective moments of your life you will desire to reread the book, not for my sake but for yours.
peacegirl, if by "the book" you mean the Corrupted Text that you peddle online for cash, then thanks for the offer but no, I will not be re-reading it. Thanks to ChuckF, the True Steward of Seymour Lessans' work, I now know of and have access to the Authentic Text written and published during the author's lifetime. Why on earth would I drive a 1985 Yugo GV with a busted transmission when I can drive a brand new Lamborghini Huracán?

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You need to go to your corner, peacegirl, and don't come out until you read the Authentic Text, or you will go back to basic training. Why are you being booked for insubordination? You know why, peacegirl, but you don't like the Authentic Text. You know nothing about the Authentic Text, but you are a Corruptor, electing yourself to hack the Authentic Text to pieces and hawk your Corrupted Text online for lucre ($41.00!!!). Once again, that's like asking a chimpanzee to call the shots. I hope the people in this thread recognize that you and your Corruptions are the source from which bullshit Corruption emanates.
Why does that look so familiar? :?

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If world peace had come in 1975, then Adolf would never have attacked the mailman because that would have been striking the first blow and an example of advance blaming.
So, basically, peacegirl murdered a small dog. :sad:
Blah blah blah
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Find solace, Flo, that, though he could not recognize you by sight alone, kleiner Adolf's germinal substance abides.
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peacegirl, we know where to find your misunderstanding - your entire Corrupted Text is your misunderstanding! I do not know how to make it simpler: We reject your Corrupted Text in its entirety. We will interpret the Authentic Text as written by the Author and published in his lifetime, and we shall do so without blame from you.

peacegirl, even you, the Corruptor, do not disagree that I am the True Steward of the Authentic Text.

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Please show me the quote again and I will show you where there is a misunderstanding.
peacegirl, we know where to find your misunderstanding - your entire Corrupted Text is your misunderstanding! I do not know how to make it simpler: We reject your Corrupted Text in its entirety. We will interpret the Authentic Text as written by the Author and published in his lifetime, and we shall do so without blame from you.

peacegirl, even you, the Corruptor, do not disagree that I am the True Steward of the Authentic Text.

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You're sick!
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peacegirl, we know where to find your misunderstanding - your entire Corrupted Text is your misunderstanding!
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None at all. :nope:
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Maybe I better stick with my breasts. Is there a charge for this, Citizen Doctor?
You have a mental condition! There's no point talking to crazy. Your remarks are part of your illness. You're a wuss without your entourage. I'm saying this as a serious warning to anyone coming to this forum. It is as unhealthy as someone trying to reason with a Scientologist. Please hear my words. Find another home for your ideas. If they are not received well here, you will be the next person to be ridiculed and attacked. You will not use me as a target Chuck. You're sick. I'm not blaming you for being sick but I must alert the newcomers who think this forum resembles free thought. I don't think the administrator imagined how an unmoderated forum could backfire so horribly. This is not meant to condemn critical thinking, but that is not the goal of many individuals here who think they own the place and are the ultimate determiners of truth and justice. Note the psychological strategy Chuck is using. He is repeating my name which is to show his dominance, and he keeps repeating the same post over and over as a form of brainwashing.
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You're nuts! There's no point talking to crazy so he can look in a forum that doesn't matter.
peacegirl, there is so much hatred and blame in you, especially for the Authentic Text. You are being booked for insubordination. You need to go to your corner, peacegirl, and don't come out until you read the Authentic Text, or you will go back to basic training.

peacegirl, I did what you suggested and took a poll. Why don't you vote in it?
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:lol: peacegirl, why do you even bother repeating this obvious lie so often? Don't get me wrong, I totally love your pretend ignores. But I mean, it is completely obvious that you read every single word I write. As you should - you have a great deal to learn from me because I am the True Steward o the Authentic Text #TrueStewardship.

peacegirl, I imagine it is very frustrating to argue with someone who just keeps repeating the same nonsense babble over and over again, who makes wild assertions without evidence, who clings to an unfalsifiable premise and calls it science, who is immune to scientific evidence and reasoning to the contrary, who is unwilling to engage on substance and prefers to revert to platitudes and hackneyed turns of phrase, who demonstrates no interest in actually investing any effort in becoming educated on a topic but purports to be privy to some special knowledge, and who considers himself to be the sole custodian of a particular truth who must not be questioned but should rather be sought out as an authority on that truth. I imagine that would be very frustrating indeed.

But no matter. Your Corrupted Text is rejected, at $41.00 (!!!) or any other price. I am the #TrueSteward of the Authentic Text.

Tits out boys, onward and upward.
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:lol: peacegirl, why do you even bother repeating this obvious lie so often? Don't get me wrong, I totally love your pretend ignores. But I mean, it is completely obvious that you read every single word I write. As you should - you have a great deal to learn from me because I am the True Steward o the Authentic Text #TrueStewardship.

peacegirl, I imagine it is very frustrating to argue with someone who just keeps repeating the same nonsense babble over and over again, who makes wild assertions without evidence, who clings to an unfalsifiable premise and calls it science, who is immune to scientific evidence and reasoning to the contrary, who is unwilling to engage on substance and prefers to revert to platitudes and hackneyed turns of phrase, who demonstrates no interest in actually investing any effort in becoming educated on a topic but purports to be privy to some special knowledge, and who considers himself to be the sole custodian of a particular truth who must not be questioned but should rather be sought out as an authority on that truth. I imagine that would be very frustrating indeed.

But no matter. Your Corrupted Text is rejected, at $41.00 (!!!) or any other price. I am the #TrueSteward of the Authentic Text.

Tits out boys, onward and upward.
There is something wrong with you Chuck. It will be up to the people to determine who to listen to. I will not cower.
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:hai: peacegirl! How's that pretend ignore going this time?

You will find that over 96% of people recognize that I am the True Steward of the Authentic Text. But peacegirl, you know as well as I do that that my #TrueStewardship is an undeniable mathematical reality - it's not up to you or "the people," or anyone else for that matter. I simply am the True Steward of the Authentic Text, just as 3 is to 6 as 4 is to 8, and just as you are a Corruptor who hawks your Corrupted Text online for lucre.

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You have a mental condition! There's no point talking to crazy. Your remarks are part of your illness. You're a pussy without your entourage. I'm saying this as a serious warning to anyone coming to this forum. It is as biased as Scientology. Please hear my words. Find another home for your ideas. If they are not received well here, you will be the next person to be ridiculed and attacked. This is worse than the Trump debacle. You will not use me as a target Chuck. You're sick. I'm not blaming you for being sick but I must alert the newcomers who think this forum resembles free thought. In any new endeavor I don't think the administrator imagined how an unmoderated forum, in contrast to a moderated forum, could backfire so horribly. The intentions may have been pure even though it's often the case that the road to hell are paved with good intentions. This forum is a perfect example of that.
ETA: looool excellent most recent edit, peacegirl! I am sorry that your Corrupted Text is too Corrupt to stand up to the Authentic Text and my #TrueStewardship, and that you cannot defend your Corruptions. It is astonishing that you continue to ask people to spend $41.00 on a copy of your Corrupted Text that you cannot defend. Best of luck on your little Facebook page.
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