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Old 10-19-2021, 10:41 AM
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This nearly went in the Trump thread, but Trump is actually just one of the supporting players here so I think it calls for a new thread. Here's the splendid Heather Cox Richardson:

The House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol — latest report

From the linkThe committee report is a lot more interesting than that topline suggests (political historian here: although people tend to watch what happens before the TV cameras, committee reports are often where the action is).

The report starts by stating that the attempt of “a violent mob” to “halt the lawful counting of electoral votes and reverse the results of the 2020 election” was, according to “the words of many of those who participated in the violence, ...a direct response to false statements by then-President Donald J. Trump—beginning on election night 2020 and continuing through January 6, 2021—that the 2020 election had been stolen by corrupted voting machines, widespread fraud, and otherwise.”

The committee is laying the events of January 6 on Trump.

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Mark Zuckerberg, in my opinion, a criminal, is allowed to spend over $400 million and therefore able to change the course of a Presidential Election, and nothing happens to Facebook.

Comey lied.
Schiff lied.
Crooked Hillary lied.
McCabe lied.
The two lovers, Peter and Lisa, lied.

They all lied about everything having to do with Russia, Russia, Russia, because they knew it was a SCAM, and they all lied about everything having to do with Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine because they knew it was a SCAM.

They made up fairy tales about me knowing how badly it would hurt the U.S.A.—and nothing happens to them. Is there no justice in our Country?

The Left NEVER stops coming after me, Friend. I’m fighting back (and I’ll WIN), but I’m calling on YOU to stand with me.
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Universal health care is a centrist position, Manchin, you are not centrist at all.
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Ready for the pogroms?

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One has to wonder which religion Flynn is talking about. I'll bet a even few people on the stage got a bit squeamish on that rhetoric.
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Finally, maybe we'll get to the part where leopards start eating their own faces.
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He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region." I said, "Me, too!"

Northern Conservative†Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over.
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Thread about the rittenhouse bit and it really cuts into the whole threatened white supremacy thing:

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Ann Coulter needs no introduction here. I haven't read it all, because I haven't the stomach. Suffice to say, she's doing that conservative thing of nudging her audience's Overton window in the direction of outrageous by accusing the opposition of the outrages she wants to legitimise:

From the link...so that no one will dare stand in the way of the left’s shock troops ever again.

The Alt-Right really, really want Nazi jackboots on the streets as soon as possible.
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The Alt-Right really, really want Nazi jackboots on the streets as soon as possible.

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[Miles Taylor] told DeVega that Republican congresspeople are worried they will be attacked if they cross Trump. “I'm talking about former Cabinet secretaries, sitting members of Congress and others who personally confessed to me, ‘I don't think I can join you in rising up against this guy because I've got to worry about my family's safety.’” Taylor said. “I didn't anticipate how much I was going to hear that as a response. They would say to me, “Look, I’ve got kids and this is too crazy right now.”

But if Trump is permitted to hand over control over the machinery of our elections to his loyalists, today’s “crazy” is going to look quaint.
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BREAKING: Stacey Abrams is running for Georgia governor in 2022
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This is 10 months old but I'd not seen it until today*.

The Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election | Time —Molly Ball reports on what she calls "the conspiracy to save the 2020 election"

From the link It is the story of an unprecedented, creative and determined campaign whose success also reveals how close the nation came to disaster. “Every attempt to interfere with the proper outcome of the election was defeated,” says Ian Bassin, co-founder of Protect Democracy, a nonpartisan rule-of-law advocacy group. “But it’s massively important for the country to understand that it didn’t happen accidentally. The system didn’t work magically. Democracy is not self-executing.” ...

They were not rigging the election; they were fortifying it. And they believe the public needs to understand the system’s fragility in order to ensure that democracy in America endures.



*It was shared by a Trumpador who seems to think it exposes a Democrat conspiracy to commit electoral fraud and steal the election for Biden.
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This is succinct.
Here’s the thing (and this is related to the centrism that I began to talk about in another thread); democracy is not just a means to an end. It is a paramount end in itself. Republicans may fear that they cannot win a fair election, but they still have a self-interest and a moral duty to oppose efforts to attack and weaken the democratic institutions standing in the way of their party wielding political power.

And one such attack is the Trump/Putin firehose of lies. There is no democratic defence against the tyrant if there isn’t an overwhelming majority which refuses to vote for candidates, irrespective of political position, who show such a disregard for truth.

Blue lies are killing us.
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Bannon and the Secretaries of State

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Looks like the police department that arrested those 31 Patriot Front psychos over the weekend is getting death threats. Here's hoping this prompts a cop or two to consider that violent right wingers may not be the best choice for spiritual kinfolk.
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My Sister: Even those cops that arrested all those white supremacists?
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This is good. Not all good. But hugely and interestingly, and anxiety-inducingly good.

Opinion | Our constitutional crisis is already here - The Washington Post

From the linkBut their bond with Trump has little to do with economics or other material concerns. They believe the U.S. government and society have been captured by socialists, minority groups and sexual deviants. They see the Republican Party establishment as corrupt and weak — “losers,” to use Trump’s word, unable to challenge the reigning liberal hegemony. They view Trump as strong and defiant, willing to take on the establishment, Democrats, RINOs, liberal media, antifa, the Squad, Big Tech and the “Mitch McConnell Republicans.” His charismatic leadership has given millions of Americans a feeling of purpose and empowerment, a new sense of identity. While Trump’s critics see him as too narcissistic to be any kind of leader, his supporters admire his unapologetic, militant selfishness. Unlike establishment Republicans, Trump speaks without embarrassment on behalf of an aggrieved segment of Americans, not exclusively White, who feel they have been taking it on the chin for too long. And that is all he needs to do.

From the linkWhatever they thought about Trump, moreover, Republican elders disliked Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and the Democrats more. Again, this is not so unusual. German conservatives accommodated Adolf Hitler in large part because they opposed the socialists more than they opposed the Nazis, who, after all, shared many of their basic prejudices.

From the linkOne wonders whether modern American politicians, in either party, have it in them to make such bold moves, whether they have the insight to see where events are going and the courage to do whatever is necessary to save the democratic system. If that means political suicide for this handful of Republicans, wouldn’t it be better to go out fighting for democracy than to slink off quietly into the night?


Note: Robert Kagan is a long serving Republican
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It is very good, but it is also a year old and quite a lot has changed that make some of the predictions less compelling. The overturning of Roe v Wade, the arrest and prosecution of many January 6th insurrectionists, the January 6th hearings, the stolen documents scandal, the rise of DeSantis as a viable contender to challenge Trump, etc.

All these things combined make it less likely (though I wouldn't say unlikely) that the Republicans will recapture the Congress, and that Trump will run (much less win) again. That being said, I think the GOP has internalized Trumpism deeply enough that another authoritarian like DeSantis might inherit Trump's supporters, and in any case I think all of this only postpones the civil war.
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Nominating DeSantis would simply continue the Republican support, if not active encouragement, of installing obviously crazy people into the highest offices. To think we were once worried about Sarah Palin being just a heartbeat away from the Presidency. The clown show now gets top billing.
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