Christian Group giving away "Free" copy of "Darwin's Origin of Species"

[Shake]

Oh, you've gotta love stuff like this ...

The supplemental rant talks about how Hitler believed in Evolution...

I'm sure Herr Hitler also believed in gravity. Is Comfort going to start railing against gravity now, too?

[Ohm]

Originally Posted by Shake

Oh, you've gotta love stuff like this ...

I'm sure Herr Hitler also believed in gravity. Is Comfort going to start railing against gravity now, too?

Starlin, Hitler had a mustache.

[Nullifidian]

The supplemental rant talks about how Hitler believed in Evolution...

Alas, this is not true. From his "Table Talk" from 1942, it's evident that he adopted a position similar to that staked out by modern creationists: "microevolution" happens, but it's simply impossible for humans to have developed from any hominid ancestors.

Woher nehmen wir das Recht zu glauben, der Mensch sei nicht von Uranfängen das gewesen, was er heute ist? Der Blick in die Natur zeigt uns, daß im Bereich der Pflanzen und Tiere Veränderungen und Weiterbildungen vorkommen. Aber nirgends zeigt sich innherhalb einer Gattung eine Entwicklung von der Weite des Sprungs, den der Mensch gemacht haben müßte, sollte er sich aus einem affenartigen Zustand zu dem, was er ist, fortgebildet haben.

Whence do we get the right to believe that man was not from his very beginnings that what he is today? A look at nature shows us that, in the realm of the plants and animals, changes and adaptations occur. But no development is shown, inside a species, that includes a leap as large as man would have had to make to evolve from some apelike state to what he is today.

Of course, if creationists weren't adept at ignoring the facts, they wouldn't be creationists.

[fragment]

So, not content to shove a crap introduction in front, it turns out they cut out key chapters as well.

Chapters 11 and 12, showcase biogeography, some of Darwin's strongest evidence for evolution... Likewise missing from Comfort's bowdlerized version of the Origin is Chapter 13, where Darwin explained how evolution makes sense of classification, morphology, and embryology.

[Crumb]

It doesn't seem right that they can do that and still call it Origin of Species.

[Ohm]

Originally Posted by fragment

So, not content to shove a crap introduction in front, it turns out they cut out key chapters as well.

I'm not surprised, but it's times like this really makes me think, How dishonest some theist can be in order to win. I would to take that as a sign of deliberate censorship.

[The Lone Ranger]

Originally Posted by fragment

So, not content to shove a crap introduction in front, it turns out they cut out key chapters as well.

I completely expected they'd edit the Origin. Frankly, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they went through it chapter by chapter and simply re-wrote what they didn't excise. Except, of course, that would require them to actually read it -- which, of course, I very much doubt they'd ever willingly do.

It's so much easier to keep saying blatantly-false things about "Darwinism" and "Darwinists" if you carefully avoid ever reading what the actual claims are.


Cheers,

Michael

[fragment]

Plagiarism, too.

[Ohm]

Here's a post by a blogger, about Eugenie C Scott last words to Ray Comfort

I am delighted that Ray Comfort has decided to provide a near-unabridged version in his next giveaway of On the Origin of Species. It's still missing a crucial diagram from Chapter 4 as well as the epigraphs from Bacon and Whewell, which Darwin chose with care, but it's more complete than the first version, which was also missing four chapters and Darwin's original introduction.

In his response to my post, Comfort strangely failed to explain why he expurgated that material from the first version. Elsewhere he wrote that it was "abridged because it was too many pages (too expensive) for a giveaway." But now he's going to try to give away even more copies of this more complete version? I'm glad I'm not his accountant.

[fragment]

OK, so they printed a bunch more copies which include the missing chapters. The, IMO weak, explanation is:

"The first printing of 30,000 was an abridged edition. It was abridged because it was too many pages (too expensive) for a giveaway. In the book, we explained that the removed chapters could be downloaded freely online at Origin Extra

The second print of 175,000 (which has just come off the press) was the complete book--that's the one that will go to students. Nothing is missing from the original book. Not a dot. Thanks for asking. I appreciate it. Best wishes."

[Ensign Steve]

We'll pray for you.

[Ari]

Because printing a couple more chapters is too expensive, but making an infomercial explaining how you are printing the whole book to give away is not.

[ceptimus]

The problem of printing the extra chapters was irreducibly complex. But by using intelligent design they were able to evolve a solution.

[Ensign Steve]

Kirk Cameron goes to UCLA to hand out copies of the book and have a "debate" with students.

Hilarity doth ensue.



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