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The clear open container and at least a 60 minute wait parts are important. Sodium hypochlorite bleach in solution exists as a mixture of a bunch of different ions that change based on the PH of the solution. Once added to plain water household bleach begins to slowly breakdown, losing chlorine ions to sodium ions forming table salt as well as to chlorine gas which slowly evaporates into the air. Light and heat both promote this decomposition. The bleach in your bleach bottle is stabilized through PH and ionic balancing, in a light tight container so that it lasts longer.

This is why you should remix bleach cleaning solutions every so often to keep their strength up, and also why if left to their own devices the ions in the unbalanced solutions attack metal and rust spray bottle springs.

And while I’m talking about it, this balance is why you shouldn’t add acids to bleach as it promotes the excessive creation of chlorine gas, however because it’s the hypochlorous acid that does the heavy disinfecting, acidified bleach is the number one top germ killer around, as well as a great human killer in a closed environment. Which gets to dilute bleach cleaner, by mixing it with water you’re acidifying it in a controlled way, since water is more acidic than the container solution, making your newly made dilute cleaner oddly more effective at speedy germ killing than straight from the bottle.

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"A reminder to all Americans- PLEASE always talk to your health provider first before administering any treatment/ medication to yourself or a loved one. Your safety is paramount, and doctors and nurses are have years of training to recommend what’s safe and effective."
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LOOK, PEOPLE. WE HAD A BIG GIANT CAMPAIGN IN THE 60s 70s AND 80s ABOUT THIS. WE'LL BRING BACK MR YUCK IF WE HAVE TO. JUST REMEMBER: IT TO TEACH CHIDLREN NOT TO DRINK SHIT UNDER THE SINK FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.
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LOOK, PEOPLE. WE HAD A BIG GIANT CAMPAIGN IN THE 60s 70s AND 80s ABOUT THIS. WE'LL BRING BACK MR YUCK IF WE HAVE TO. JUST REMEMBER: IT TO TEACH CHIDLREN NOT TO DRINK SHIT UNDER THE SINK FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.
I know it's about a 0% chance that's the reason but it's like he's still rebelling against everything his dad ever told him. O_o
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Ok, so I have to know what you guys think about the sexual harassment allegations against Biden. Have we lowered the bar so low that things like this don't matter any more? Does it only matter when the opposition does things like this? I don't know, but it does feel like a double standard, on both sides.
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So I checked with my doctor and he said generic was okay on this. Might save people a few bucks. Kroger usually runs a buck or so cheaper.
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I can't speak for anyone else, but the reason I don't want to get into that is that it's going to be one or the other, and Trump is so dangerous and incompetent that I think it's relatively unimportant in the current climate. If it were Mitt Romney or virtually anyone else he were running against, I'd be talking about this a lot. But it's not. I will definitely be talking about it a lot if he wins, though.

It might also be relevant that this sort of thing never really surprises me. I assume most men have done something like this, and the more power they have over others, the more those percentages go up.
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Ok, so I have to know what you guys think about the sexual harassment allegations against Biden.
I don't argue it much if I can avoid it.

It's a losing argument. I don't want to engage in whataboutism, and I don't like victim blaming defenses, but I do doubt the veracity of the claim and the sincerity of the people making the arguments.

I don't think the argument is made in good faith in general. Much like the arguments that Joe has dementia. If it's an issue that you actually care about, the choice is still pretty clear. Trump has show

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Have we lowered the bar so low that things like this don't matter any more? Does it only matter when the opposition does things like this? I don't know, but it does feel like a double standard, on both sides.
So no the bar hasn't been lowered in my estimation. It isn't the case that it only matters when the opposition does things (I point to Franken not being in the Senate).

It feels like a double a standard because the rightwing are weaponizing progressive values and attacking with them.

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Also, frankly voting in our system is a zero sum game, it is only about Joe Biden's and Donald Trump's relative worth compared to each other. Even if true, Biden is still better, more alert and more moral than Trump.

That's just the sad reality of the world that we live in. A guy that maybe raped and was definitely super handsy with some senility is still clearly superior to the more than a dozen credible sexual assault allegations having unrepentant pussy grabbing venal narcissus that is Donald Trump.
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I disagree with bey only on the thing about the bar not being lowered. There is no more bar. It turns out the bar was a luxury all along.
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I don't think the evidence is all that strong, the accuser hasn't been consistent, she doesn't have great corroboration, the new "revelation" they're trying to use to revive this (her mother calling into Larry King) seems more consistent with her original story (that Biden was handsy in an uncomfortable and inappropriate but seemingly non-sexual way, which is what all the other complaints have been) than the new one, and so don't prove her more serious accusation.

It is less relevant but she also has had some odd behavior, including praising Biden for his work on sexual violence quite recently, like 2017 or 2018.

I would also say that it seems to me that there aren't many people around this who can claim they're totally free of hypocrisy. How many of the lefties saying that liberals are revealing themselves to be hypocrites on this issue have been publicly calling for Assange to be freed and saying that the rape accusation against him (which I find to be more credible) is trumped up politically motivated bullshit?

And for all the comparison to Brett Kavanaugh, people are forgetting that Christine Blasey Ford wasn't his only accuser. There was another seemingly credible accuser, who did not testify, as well as the far less credible one that Michael Avenatti put forward who poisoned the well against that second accuser, harming attempts to get her to be called as a witness as well, and who was not generally considered credible by Democrats and others. The claim that Democrats/liberals/the left believed Blasey Ford and don't believe Reade is leaving out that context - that not every claim against Kavanaugh was believed uncritically. And honestly, it was clear that Kavanaugh was lying about the incident (given that he clearly lied about other aspects of the incident and his high school years), but he probably could've survived it if he had simply admitted to doing basically what he was accused of but claimed that it was roughhousing and intended as a "joke"/"prank" and he was a high school kid, which I find a plausible explanation. Say that and then give an insincere apology about how he should've known better and he deeply regrets treating the idea of sexual assault so cavalierly and he's matured since then, and he'd probably still be on the court today. He'd still be a sexist piece of shit due to this and many other aspects of his life and personality, but it's plausible to me that he wasn't actually trying to rape Ford, even though it was traumatizing for her because she didn't know that.

I also think if people are being honest, while most on the left think there should generally be consequences, they don't want to throw everything else away over it in a specific case. If you think that destroying Western imperialism is more important (but don't care much about Russian imperialism), you support Assange's efforts to ratfuck all Western governments. If you think that defeating Trump is more important, this isn't going to dissuade you. If you think it's more important that the Violence Against Women Act is renewed, affecting millions of women, than that one specific case of violence is punished, then your choice of vote is clear when it comes to the author of the law vs. the president and party who have declined to renew it.

So if it were true, as lisarea and bey have said, there still really isn't any choice between Biden and Trump. Biden is clearly superior on this and pretty much every other issue, and the revelation wouldn't be that surprising for any powerful man around Biden's age, tbh. Doesn't change the fact that Trump's behavior was (and probably remains) far worse and outside the norm even if you're grading on a curve for 70+year-old douchebags and that if he's reelected every issue is going to be made worse, including the issue of policy affecting violence against women generally.

And in contrast to Trump who feels no shame and whose political base doesn't care about this issue, if there is anything to this, it may end up like a Governor Northam situation, where due to the embarrassment and damage caused by this, he feels the need to pass more progressive legislation and make more progressive appointments to keep the base happy.

But so far the media has looked into it and it doesn't seem like there is more evidence to corroborate her story than we've seen so far, and no further accusers alleging sexual assault.

Still, Biden's at least creepy behavior was a reason to worry about nominating him, and is one of the reasons I didn't support him in the primary.
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Ok, so I have to know what you guys think about the sexual harassment allegations against Biden.
I don't argue it much if I can avoid it.

It's a losing argument. I don't want to engage in whataboutism, and I don't like victim blaming defenses, but I do doubt the veracity of the claim and the sincerity of the people making the arguments.

I don't think the argument is made in good faith in general. Much like the arguments that Joe has dementia. If it's an issue that you actually care about, the choice is still pretty clear. Trump has show

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Have we lowered the bar so low that things like this don't matter any more? Does it only matter when the opposition does things like this? I don't know, but it does feel like a double standard, on both sides.
So no the bar hasn't been lowered in my estimation. It isn't the case that it only matters when the opposition does things (I point to Franken not being in the Senate).

It feels like a double a standard because the rightwing are weaponizing progressive values and attacking with them.

edited to add:

Also, frankly voting in our system is a zero sum game, it is only about Joe Biden's and Donald Trump's relative worth compared to each other. Even if true, Biden is still better, more alert and more moral than Trump.

That's just the sad reality of the world that we live in. A guy that maybe raped and was definitely super handsy with some senility is still clearly superior to the more than a dozen credible sexual assault allegations having unrepentant pussy grabbing venal narcissus that is Donald Trump.
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So I checked with my doctor and he said generic was okay on this. Might save people a few bucks. Kroger usually runs a buck or so cheaper.
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The important thing to understand is that some component of the nonexistent liberal mainstream media will make the accusations against Biden front-page news from now until November 3, whereas the 43 or so women who've made allegations against Trump will continue to be ignored. The Biden stuff is newsworthy, whereas even acknowledging the Trump stuff would render one's publication a Democratic party propaganda rag.
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Ok, so I have to know what you guys think about the sexual harassment allegations against Biden.
I don't argue it much if I can avoid it.

It's a losing argument. I don't want to engage in whataboutism, and I don't like victim blaming defenses, but I do doubt the veracity of the claim and the sincerity of the people making the arguments.

I don't think the argument is made in good faith in general. Much like the arguments that Joe has dementia. If it's an issue that you actually care about, the choice is still pretty clear. Trump has show

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Have we lowered the bar so low that things like this don't matter any more? Does it only matter when the opposition does things like this? I don't know, but it does feel like a double standard, on both sides.
So no the bar hasn't been lowered in my estimation. It isn't the case that it only matters when the opposition does things (I point to Franken not being in the Senate).

It feels like a double a standard because the rightwing are weaponizing progressive values and attacking with them.

edited to add:

Also, frankly voting in our system is a zero sum game, it is only about Joe Biden's and Donald Trump's relative worth compared to each other. Even if true, Biden is still better, more alert and more moral than Trump.

That's just the sad reality of the world that we live in. A guy that maybe raped and was definitely super handsy with some senility is still clearly superior to the more than a dozen credible sexual assault allegations having unrepentant pussy grabbing venal narcissus that is Donald Trump.
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Oh hey, a GOP postmortem of the 2012 Romney loss.

2013 RNC Election Report Autopsy - The Atlantic

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That's way too optimistic. If anything, he'll be caught in an alley behind a hospital that just burned down proclaiming a triumph of modern tremendosity that hugely brought the Invisible Enemy to its knees.
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