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Never really gave it much thought before, but it's easy to see why Scotty and Uhura seldom go on any exploratory missions.
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While the number of redshirts who die in the original series is 25, the number of yellow shirts is 10.

But since there are far more redshirts than yellow, the statistics tell us a yellow shirt has a higher chance of death than a redshirt.

Blue shirts have the lowest probability of death.

Statistics, that voodoo science that makes a mockery of our perception.
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That Jar Jar Binks was crap.
Jar Jar Binks was actually a Gungan Sith Lord.
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Old 04-14-2023, 04:32 PM
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While the number of redshirts who die in the original series is 25, the number of yellow shirts is 10.

But since there are far more redshirts than yellow, the statistics tell us a yellow shirt has a higher chance of death than a redshirt.

Blue shirts have the lowest probability of death.

Statistics, that voodoo science that makes a mockery of our perception.
Red shirts were engineering, Communications and security.
Yellow/Gold were Officer/command.

So the red shirt on away missions were grunts, and the yellow/gold were Junior Officers.

Death stats fit right in with Military SOP.
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Ex Astris Scientia - Redshirt Deaths in TOS

I found this interesting, at least for the original series it seems like Season 2 is where the Red Shirt meme comes from with 16 dead red shirts and only 1 dead gold shirt.

To get a really good idea we would need to know how many dangerous missions hours an average colored shirt goes on, as it’s possible that being a red shirt is safer so long as you are never picked for the mission.
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That Jar Jar Binks was crap.
Jar Jar Binks was actually a Gungan Sith Lord.
Fuck Jar Jar

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When exactly does the Star Trek universe diverge from our own? It has to be before the 1990s, what with Khan starting the Eugenics Wars in that time frame.

The key is in the TOS episode "The Omega Glory"
"Star Trek" The Omega Glory (TV Episode 1968) - IMDb

That is a planet like earth, but the USA lost the "Asian Brush Wars" (by implication the war in Vietnam).

So in the Star Trek universe, the USA won the war in Vietnam.

But that's not a fan theory, that's just deduction from the Star Trek canon.

Fan theory:
But how did the USA win the war in Vietnam in the Star Trek universe? Doctor Manhattan, obviously.
The Star Trek Universe is the Watchmen universe a few centuries later.

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When exactly does the Star Trek universe diverge from our own? It has to be before the 1990s, what with Khan starting the Eugenics Wars in that time frame.
Khan was born in 1959, created from advanced scifi genetic engineering. So ... before the original series even aired.
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Given all the time travel shenanigans that happen specifically to earth, I presume all earthlings exist in a quantum state of Alive, non-existent, and being tortured by a super being.

I haven’t payed attention to the latest, but voyager in the 90s pushed the Eugenics war off a bit by having a run in with a future time ship which then crashed in the US in the 60s, where it turned a dirty hippie into a dirty capitalist who reverse engineered the ship to jump start the micro chip revolution. With the first Eugenics wars now coming after or during a tech crash.
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Old 04-17-2023, 10:24 PM
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Voyager is not the One True Trek. :onfire:
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"I haven’t payed attention to the latest"

The path of wisdom right there
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Given all the time travel shenanigans that happen specifically to earth, I presume all earthlings exist in a quantum state of Alive, non-existent, and being tortured by a super being.

I haven’t payed attention to the latest, but voyager in the 90s pushed the Eugenics war off a bit by having a run in with a future time ship which then crashed in the US in the 60s, where it turned a dirty hippie into a dirty capitalist who reverse engineered the ship to jump start the micro chip revolution. With the first Eugenics wars now coming after or during a tech crash.
To think Bones was worried about transparent aluminum.
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Old 05-04-2023, 02:10 PM
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Spillover from that other thread.

Need to finish off that five year mission.

Scriptbot, two new seasons of TOS alternating the styles of Frederic Brown and James Blish with a fifth season finale two-parter in the style of Leigh Brackett.

In the very last episode have Uhura sing the TOS theme song (with those never performed awful lyrics Gene Roddenberry wrote to glom on to the royalties) as the Federation national anthem at an official ceremony on Earth to celebrate the end of the five year mission.

With the right technology, we can dispense with actors have the original cast as they looked in 1970.

How's that for science fiction? :celebrate:
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Another "Spew-Coffee-on-my-keyboard" moment
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Is anyone watching Strange New Worlds season 2? It's gotten weird and wonderful, imo.

There was a crossover episode with Lower Decks that was super fun if you also watch that show. Then last episode was
which was also very enjoyable.

Feels like they are taking some wild swings for a Star Trek show and I'm loving it.
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We are indeed watching Strange New Worlds, but the last new one we watched was the Lower Decks crossover (loved it of course). We missed the next one, at first because we didn't realize they dropped 2 episodes in a week, and then later because I heard it was a tough watch and I haven't gathered up the strength. But I'm aware of the premise of the most recent ep, so that should motivate me to get caught up soon.

Speaking of that hard to watch episode, I saw a headline that said, did you know this week's guest star also guested on TOS when he was a child? I was like, motherfucker, of course I did! Put some goddamn respect on Clint Howard's name. Fuckin millennials SMH
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Wil Wheaton is older than Patrick Stewart was on season one of TNG.
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What is the effect on society of the holodeck?

It's all good on a well disciplined starship, where it's therapeutic recreation. But what about among civilians living on planets?

A major social problem as people drop out of society to plug into the holodeck all day. Sort of like The Matrix only voluntary.

That's my fan theory anyway. :cool:
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What is the effect on society of the holodeck?

It's all good on a well disciplined starship, where it's therapeutic recreation. But what about among civilians living on planets?

A major social problem as people drop out of society to plug into the holodeck all day. Sort of like The Matrix only voluntary.

That's my fan theory anyway. :cool:
I suspect that they have an accounting system and each crewman has a certain number of hours of Holo-time in their monthly budget, maybe, or,
You can hang at the holodeck all you want, long as you show up for your shift.
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Okay, so the more I get into Star Trek the more Strange New Worlds is impressing me retroactively. It is so clearly created by absolute lovers of the franchise, and I sorely hope it doesn't get sullied by greed and the corporate world.

I was late to the show as I have never been a true Trekkie, just a casual watcher. So only now, after binging the show and doing a rewatch of ST:TOS (last time was years ago, and I might possibly not even have ever seen all of it) I only just realised what actual Trekkies probably immediately caught back a year ago when SNW S1 E10 "A Quality of Mercy" came out, that is is a retake of TOS S1 E14 "Balance of Terror". To non-trekkies like myself this is an absolute classic episode where we first meet the Romulans and Kirk is second-guessing himself and his decisions. Well, in SNW, we saw what would have happened had the softer and more benevolent Pike been in that captain's chair still at that point, and it does not end well. Such an amazing callback that really on the rewatch feels like they somehow had this whole thing planned 60 years ago.

Oh, and I also remembered TOS being more... problematic, but apart from the very occasional comment - usually intentional to show how prejudice is not okay - and female crew members usually only existing when them being female is a plot point (which by its very nature means the outcome of the plot is easily viewed as sexist by today's standards) I am surprised at how modern the attitudes and views are.
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