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Old 11-03-2016, 07:37 PM
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Just a guess, but I think they know that he is your best friend's son. You are the real target.
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Old 11-28-2016, 07:52 PM
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Trump said, without any evidence, that he would have won the popular vote too if the millions of illegal immigrant votes had been removed. I would think he would welcome a thorough audit too, but no, he hates democracy as much as Bush did, maybe more.

Election fraud: Donald Trump falsely claims 'millions' of illegal votes cost him popular vote - CNNPolitics.com
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Straight from the Goering/Goebbels playbook. Accuse your opponent of exactly what you're doing. The more shamelessly audacious, the better it works.

Can we just suspend Godwin's applicability for the next 4 years?
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Old 11-29-2016, 07:41 PM
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Can we just suspend Godwin's applicability for the next 4 years?
(I recognize this is a rhetorical question.) Godwin refers to the likelihood that Hitler will be mentioned, not to never mention historical parallels. Of course some wankers will shout Godwin when discussing systematic horrors resembling Nazi activities, but they're just that, wankers. The real complaint is when any term or historical event gets used inappropriately.

I for one would like to not newspeak out of existence parts of human history.

But hey! There are also lots of other populist strongmen to compare to too!

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Right, sorry, I meant the corollary that when Hitler or Nazis are mentioned, the thread is over and lost. 'Cause that will mean the end of the politics forum.
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Old 11-30-2016, 01:09 AM
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Green Party Now Says Unspent Recount Money Will Go To Party Building, Not Election Reform

liarsStein’s donation page says that any extra dollars not devoted to the recount will “go toward election integrity efforts and to promote voting system reform.”

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Question: Did I hear you correctly? Excess funds will be used for candidate recruitment?
Martin: Yes. Not for for candidate recruitment, for candidate schools… even before this, the commitment was to help fund schools around the country.
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Old 11-30-2016, 01:59 AM
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I knew that "voting system reform" would mean "funding Green Party campaigns that mostly go nowhere and help Republicans get elected."

If they wanna run people in Seattle or San Francisco or DC, that's one thing, but... That would require recognizing that in most places in America, only a small minority of people are far enough left to vote Green.
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Old 11-30-2016, 02:13 AM
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SF isnt even green left but a combination of socialist and libertarian. Eitherway the Greens anti technology and progress vibe would never fly. Perhaps Marin where all the old white hippies have gone.
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Sad to say, it looks like the UK neo-fascists are following in the gerrymandering footsteps of the US neo-fascists.

Voter ID proposal could disenfranchise millions, Labour warns | The Guardian

From the link[Former London mayor Ken Livingstone] also suggested there could be an element of gerrymandering to help the Conservatives’ electoral aims because the demand for ID would “hit the poorest” who might never have applied for a passport or driving licence. “That, I suspect, like the decision last year to knock a lot of people off the electoral register, is going to hit the Labour party,” he said.


Yes, Theresa May is pushing for voter ID to prevent a type of electoral fraud of which even her own people admit they have no evidence.

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...oral_fraud.pdf

From the link, with emphasis added28. There is a clear tension between accessibility and security here, as there is in other voting channels and in the registration process, but a proportionate response may be possible.
29. Despite the low numbers of allegations and rare cases of personation being prosecuted, there is a concern that the absence of evidence does not mean this practice is not taking place. And even if it is not, there is a precautionary principle that comes into play in terms of the potential for it to happen.


So the UK is going to trial "proportionate precautions" against a problem which all agree has little or even no impact at all on our democracy. The precautions however, will undoubtedly have a disproportionate impact on the turnout for opposition parties.

Colour me disgusted.
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lol, your narrative has been debunked by the Michigan recount where it was showing massive widespread democrat voter fraud, to the tune of 5 fake votes for every 1 real vote.

Your narrative is destroyed, it is now proven your narrative is a lie used to hide massive widespread vote fraud.

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Ohh, and I love the argument that because the politicians don't force investigations or prosecute voter fraud, that some how its not real.

Do you believe the same thing about the police when cops that kill innocents are not prosecuted by the system?

lol @ the selective reasoning
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lol, your narrative has been debunked by the Michigan recount where it was showing massive widespread democrat voter fraud, to the tune of 5 fake votes for every 1 real vote.
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As is typical with lying liberals... they deny, deny, deny open facts.

The fact remains the Michigan recount was stopped because it was exposing massive democrat voter fraud, to the tune of 5 fake votes for each real vote.

Should should call it 'fake news', that is the new term used by lying liberals to deny the truth of their corruption and fraud.
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Sad to say, it looks like the UK neo-fascists are following in the gerrymandering footsteps of the US neo-fascists.

Voter ID proposal could disenfranchise millions, Labour warns | The Guardian

From the link[Former London mayor Ken Livingstone] also suggested there could be an element of gerrymandering to help the Conservatives’ electoral aims because the demand for ID would “hit the poorest” who might never have applied for a passport or driving licence. “That, I suspect, like the decision last year to knock a lot of people off the electoral register, is going to hit the Labour party,” he said.


Yes, Theresa May is pushing for voter ID to prevent a type of electoral fraud of which even her own people admit they have no evidence.

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...oral_fraud.pdf

From the link, with emphasis added28. There is a clear tension between accessibility and security here, as there is in other voting channels and in the registration process, but a proportionate response may be possible.
29. Despite the low numbers of allegations and rare cases of personation being prosecuted, there is a concern that the absence of evidence does not mean this practice is not taking place. And even if it is not, there is a precautionary principle that comes into play in terms of the potential for it to happen.


So the UK is going to trial "proportionate precautions" against a problem which all agree has little or even no impact at all on our democracy. The precautions however, will undoubtedly have a disproportionate impact on the turnout for opposition parties.

Colour me disgusted.
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One of the first books I was assigned in library school was one whose premise was that while we were all waiting for 1984 to come, Brave New World actually did. This is it, Amusing Ourselves to Death.
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Your semi-regular reminder that Republicans "win" elections because they cheat. 2016 was no exception.

Rigged: How Voter Suppression Threw Wisconsin to Trump – Mother Jones

I have absolutely no doubt that similar factors applied in several other swing states, but overall I don't expect most of the media to cover this story because it would interfere with their narrative about how someone who will never run for office again sucks.
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Gerrymandering is a kind of voter suppression - perhaps the most insidious kind, because it's not something that occurs at the polls, so it's not as immediately obvious. The Supreme Court, by declining to hear an appeal for a Pennsylvania case (the correct decision, since the matter was internal to Pennsylvania's state constitution), has very likely issued a major blow to it.

BREAKING: Pennsylvania’s Republican gerrymander is finally dead – ThinkProgress
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Dead maybe, but if so then it is still delivering a very nasty twitch ...

http://act.commoncause.org/site/Advo...328&s_src=2328
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DId we find the voter fraud?

https://www.alternet.org/election-03...ctions-meeting

A narrow win by the republican fails to be certified because of possible mail in fraud.
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In response to the above:


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We still didn't find much voter fraud, but we found some election fraud.

https://www.alternet.org/2019/02/for...-mill-scandal/

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“Here’s my question: Where is the voter fraud crowd?” writes Dunlap. “You know, the folks who cry ‘crime’ when two people named John Smith vote in the same state? Their silence in the face of seemingly serious election fraud reveals their fundamental bad faith and hucksterism.”
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Holy fucking fuckballs! The North Carolina Board of Elections ordered a full do-over in that 9th Congressional District race. The Republican might not even run again for health reasons, where "health" = bathed in and reeking of fraud.
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Yeah those same health problems that caused him to, uh, forget some stuff in his testimony and discovery that he just remembered after the board produced evidence. Prayers up! (NCGOP chair literally asked people to pray for fraudster candidate, such a difficult day for him and his family, getting caught committing fraud and all)
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I think Mueller will get Manafort to "turn".
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