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If someone forgets their password repeatedly at work, my boss will set it to 'remember' so that they... well... remember it :lol:

One lady phoned up a couple of weeks ago and asked if there was a way she could change her password, she didn't like having it as 'remember'. Why?

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You could also use a password manager like KeePass to generate and store passwords under a single master password, and keep it on a thumb drive or summat.
I've got LastPass, a Firefox addon. It makes it a lot easier if you use more than one computer as well because it remembers what you did on both.
I've been using RoboForm for a few weeks.

The Good: There is a version of RoboForm and its related synchronization software for my home PC, for my iPhone, and another for the U3 Smart platform on my USB key. Thus I have all my passwords available to me on all the devices I commonly use.

The Bad: I didn't realize it was free only for a trial period and ridiculously overpriced (with separate licenses required for each piece on each device) after that, so it has been nagging me and/or failing to work lately.

I'm not sure what I'll do now. I used to use KeePass but the mobility was never great with that one. With RoboForm all I have to do is set a new password and sync it with their online service, then I have it everywhere.
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None of those meet the minimum password requirements where I work.

People really use "123456" eh?
Yes they do, and frankly we still use that here for certain users (i.e. the company truck drivers) who have trouble even powering on a computer. Of course that is just a temporary password and they must change it whenever they log on.
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Ive solved this problem by simply never knowing what any of my passwords actually are. every password I use consists of one starting point and a pattern.

if I wrote a 2w in my password note book, my password would be 2wsxdr5tgbhu8

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There's some kind of (COMPLETELY ACCURATE) theory that there's a point of diminishing returns from strict password policies, because the more frequently you make users change them and the more convoluted the requirements are, the more people will just write them on sticky notes and leave them right there on their monitors. Which, yeah. I've seen that.
Too many password restrictions definitely do decrease the security of passwords. The more possible passwords there are the more attempts the average brute force attack will require to break it. So every restriction that reduces the amount of possible passwords decreases the key space and makes attackers jobs easier.

We have a system where I work that requires passwords of exactly 8 characters. This restricts the key space to much and they also have requirements for special characters which there are fewer of than letters so that further reduces the key space. A few reasonable guidelines are useful, but too many and you are reducing the security of the system.
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Old 12-04-2009, 07:08 PM
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In this one network security seminar I was at this one time, they did some magic math on the board where they showed that a sixteen-character password that uses just lower-case letters (he called it a "passphrase" ... you just type a sentence like mydogsnameisfido) is literally a billion times more secure than an eight-character password with lots of numbers and special characters in it. Because of that combination/permutation deal in math.
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Old 12-05-2009, 01:04 AM
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A friend of mine was notorious for forgetting his bank card PIN*. He went through PINs at the rate of about one per month, because the bank wouldn't give him his PIN; every time he forgot it and went to the bank for help, they'd give him a new PIN, along with a "Don't forget this time!" warning.

It didn't help.

Finally, they gave him the PIN "1234," which he actually managed to remember. We're pretty sure that someone in the bank figured, "Surely, he won't forget this one."


*"PIN" stands of "Personal Identification Number," so "PIN Number" is a redundancy. It always bugs me a bit when I hear people say "PIN number."


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Old 12-05-2009, 01:08 AM
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Actually that's a good technique. A few of my passwords are normal words that are misspelled. Less chance a dictionary crack will break them, but I can still easily remember what they are.
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:45 AM
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When computers force me to use passwords that aren't easy to remember and have to meet some arcane standard about numbers, letters and stuff - then I just read them off my keyboard.

Normally qwerty isn't allowed, and it doesn't contain the necessary numbers - but there's nothing to stop you going down the columns instead of across the rows.

1qaz2wsx

...and if you have to use capitals and symbols, you can just press the shift key for the second column. When they make you change your password after a month, just move along one column - so say you're starting on the '4' you get:

4rfv%TGB

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I use random letters and numbers for most of my passwords, and write them down on little post-it notes. I've lost two stacks of these notes and was locked out of a dozen different accounts for over a year. I found most of them, but I still have a handful of inaccessible Gmail accounts, unless I find the other stack of post-it notes.

I hate changing my passwords because it takes me a long time to stop automatically typing the old sequence of letters and numbers. I need a month to learn the new password by heart.

I also use pet names in some of my passwords, which is sad when the pet dies.
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Old 12-10-2009, 05:22 AM
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*"PIN" stands of "Personal Identification Number," so "PIN Number" is a redundancy. It always bugs me a bit when I hear people say "PIN number."
Well, these people always need to use their PIN number at the ATM machine, you know.

Here at work, our radios have a "hold-up battery" or HUB to maintain certain information when the radio is powered off. Often you'll here people say, or see references in documentation to the, "HUB battery". :wall:
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That's probably going to happen as long as acronyms get used in place of actual words in general usuage. The meanings quickly lost and the letters themselves become irrelevant. 'Laser' started out as one and just became a word but its meaning doesn't lend itself to word duplication.
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I've heard people talk about laser lights.
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I know they tell you not to use repeating letters or numbers, but I received kudos from one IT person for my password, which is similar to this: Dd-77A&88b. It's easy for me to remember, but highly unlikely someone would guess it.
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Analysis of 32 Million breached passwords ...

The report identifies the most commonly used passwords:

1. 123456
2. 12345
3. 123456789
4. Password
5. iloveyou
6. princess
7. rockyou
8. 1234567
9. 12345678
10. abc123
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I changed my yahoo password yesterday, for the first time since I opened the account in the mid-nineties. I kept receiving "undeliverable" notices about spam emails that had come from my email address. Which, obviously, I did not send. My name is not Mary, and I am not looking for a good time, tyvm. I don't think they need my password to spoof my email like that, but it was a nice gentle reminder that I have had the same six-character password for upwards of 15 years. Now it's 8 characters!
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Now it's 8 characters!
iloveyou, password princess!
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I have a secure password for my home machine which never sees the light of day on the Internet. It is, let's see, 18 characters with a good mix of upper & lowercase letter, numbers and graphic symbols. Since I am the only one with physical access to my machine, I log in automatically. I am also the system administrator.

For my Internet access, I have about 6 passwords that I use, mostly between 12 and 18 characters in length, and all based on the same theme (a little known fact about myself). These serve my e-mail accounts, BB logins and so forth. They are not related to my local machine password.
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I have a secure password for my home machine which never sees the light of day on the Internet. It is, let's see, 18 characters with a good mix of upper & lowercase letter, numbers and graphic symbols. Since I am the only one with physical access to my machine, I log in automatically.
So, why have a password at all?
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I have a secure password for my home machine which never sees the light of day on the Internet. It is, let's see, 18 characters with a good mix of upper & lowercase letter, numbers and graphic symbols. Since I am the only one with physical access to my machine, I log in automatically.
So, why have a password at all?
It's required for superuser access; no password, no superuser access to the machine. Besides, I'm on the Internet permanently, and, even though I have a firewall etc, it's still possible to get hacked.
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