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Old 03-23-2010, 12:07 AM
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chuckf is now safely back in my ignore list and I promise not to mention it again in this thread.
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This claim requires testing.
Just inexplicably choosing to quote Chuck here.
Cool. So in other words you are a sperm guzzling slut who enjoys having your anus so stretched out that you have to wear adult diapers for life?

Or did you mean something else and I am misunderstanding?

Note to others: I am trying to be polite.:popcorn:
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Old 03-23-2010, 12:09 AM
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Somebody in the secret forums has been blabbing!
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Old 03-23-2010, 12:35 AM
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I like it when just me talks dirty :lookporn:

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Old 03-23-2010, 02:51 AM
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Note to others: I am trying to be polite.:popcorn:
Yes, you have been so polite, what with saying thank you for your participation and stuff like that!

Never mind the fact that in that previous thread, you asked a kind of weird, naive question, and the very first post in the thread answered your questions politely and concisely, but you just repeated yourself over and over, without even acknowledging that answer until about 15 different people had repeated it for you, something like seven or eight pages later.

And you're doing it again. You're repeating the same nonspecific objection without acknowledging the arguments against it, which you could find very easily, and which have also been cut and pasted here for just for you.

Who are you to call anyone else rude when you can't bother to research such easily located subjects, or even to read people's posts when they explicitly repeat them for you?
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Old 03-23-2010, 03:33 AM
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In the case of mandatory health insurance there is no option. If you are alive, you must purchase.
That's incorrect. There are exceptions. You can find the text of the bill that the House passed yesterday going here and plugging "HR 3590" into a bill number search. If you're really masochistic, there's a link to the Reconciliation Act on the site's homepage as well.
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Old 03-23-2010, 03:43 AM
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This is an interesting bit I wasn't aware of:

After Obama signs health care reform bill, why mess with reconciliation? / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com
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Old 03-23-2010, 03:58 AM
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Also, here's a pretty thorough stab at the question of the bill's constitutionality.

Apparently some States are already lining up to take it to court.
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Old 03-23-2010, 05:31 AM
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Somebody in the secret forums has been blabbing!
YOU BLABBED, QUAID!!! YOU BLABBED ABOUT THE SECRET FORUMS!!!
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Old 03-23-2010, 05:42 AM
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:58 PM
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Thanks for the Hitler.
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Old 03-23-2010, 02:52 PM
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I'm not quite done shitting on the Washington Post:



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Old 03-23-2010, 02:53 PM
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Step right up and test your strength!
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Yeah, the actual stupid article is about how it's really a penis.
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Pelosi isn't the first to opt for the symbolism of an oversize gavel, and she didn't invent the masculine overtones it seems to carry. When then-Rep. Jim Wright, a Democrat from Texas, became speaker in 1987, he brought with him a Texas-size gavel donated by the speaker of the Texas House, Gib Lewis. Lewis didn't want the newly minted speaker to "use such wimpy little gavels."
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Whether it was intended as a provocation or not, Pelosi's very public walk with a large, almost clown-size wooden mallet was red meat to her political foes.
Leading national newspaper, folks.
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Old 03-23-2010, 04:03 PM
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Sometimes a great big hammer is just a great big hammer.
(Very useful for smiting one's foes.)
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Old 03-23-2010, 04:09 PM
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I have never in my life heard any variation on "was red meat to [x]'s foes." WTF does that even mean? I realize a lot of conservatives are BBQ-lovin' tailgate-party types, but I'm sure at least some of them have heart or colon issues. For them I guess Pelosi's walk was something their doctors have recommended cutting down on.
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Old 03-23-2010, 04:14 PM
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Really? It's a bit old-fashioned, I think, as I mostly heard it from old-timers when I was growing up, and haven't heard it in a long time.

Basically, it means that you've done something that your foes will be very happy you did. Something that will sustain them (in the sense of providing them with ammunition to use against you) for quite some time.

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Old 03-23-2010, 04:34 PM
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Someone needs to shoop that Pelosi pic so the "red meat" nonsense is replaced by the line about driving one's enemies before you and hearing the lamentations of their women.
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Old 03-23-2010, 10:13 PM
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Well, that didn't take long! The Virginia Attorney General filed suit in federal court about five minutes after Obama signed the bill. The complaint is available here (pdf, 7 pages).
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Old 03-23-2010, 10:32 PM
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How likely are these suits to not fail, Maturin?
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Old 03-24-2010, 12:19 AM
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I suspect the chances of success are significantly less than 50%, but weirder things have happened.

The Congressional Research Service memo referenced in the complaint is available here. It has some good analysis of the substantive constitutional issues.

And here's the separate complaint of Florida, South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Utah, Louisiana, Alabama, Michigan, Colorado :facepalm: , Pennsylvania, Washington, Idaho and South Dakota.
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What happened Colorado? You used to be cool. Same for you Washington.
What changed?
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What happened Colorado?
The Democratic governor says the lawsuit is bad idea, that the federal legislation is good compliment to Colorado's efforts to expand health care availability and that Congress acted well within its constitutional authority.

The Republican attorney general says that the lawsuit is, like, totally necessary and that Congress hasn't abused its authority this egregiously since it forced good, decent, honest, hard-working white folk to eat with coloreds.

And that's what it's all about. It's Republicans trying to pull a Bush v. Gore after not getting everything they wanted in the ordinary course of the democratic process. According to my count, there's a grand total of one Democrat among the attorneys general who signed those complaints.

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[Colorado] used to be cool. . . .
What changed?
I moved here from Ohio in 2003, and I clearly didn't spend enough time in the decontamination chamber before entering Colorado. A single Ohio cootie egg can destroy an entire civilization.
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Florida, South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Utah, Louisiana, Alabama, Michigan, Colorado, Pennsylvania, Washington, Idaho and South Dakota.
The new Confederacy?

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:foggy: Georgia's not on there? Well I'll be!
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Oklahoma's Attorney General is a Democrat who is running for Governor. If he and the governor now in office were Republicans, you can bet they'd have been first in line to sue.
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