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The California US attorney's say we shouldn't blame Obama as it was their decision to attack medical marijuana because they arbitrarily decided some people were making too much money off of it. As if making money off of medicinal drugs is someone evil or outlawed.
Their other big claim is that many users aren't using it medicinally. While it's certainly true a portion of card holders are using it recreationly the same can be said for prescription drugs, yet SWAT isn't busting down the doors of the local CVS Pharmacy. I also don't think the US attorney is medically qualified to tell people whether or not their prescription is valid.
Over here the right-wing cabinet which seems to have as a motto: 'if it isn't compulsory, it should be illegal', wants to introduce 'weed-passes' for inhabitants of the southern provinces Zeeland, Noord-Brabant and Limburg (I am just a tad more to the north in southern Gelderland) and turn the coffeeshops there into clubs that you can't get into unless you are a member and have one of those passes.
According to Marc Josemans of the Association of Official Coffeeshops in Maastricht, the Dutch economy will lose 200 million euros that drug tourists (from Germany, Belgium and France mostly) bring in annually. (linkie in Dutch)
So, if I am reading you right, the government is celebrating reducing the black market drug economy by fostering a black market economy for falsified documents and IDs?
That sounds reasonable. There's always people who consider a law a mere challenge. So yeah, that is prolly what'll happen. Or back to the olden days of people selling it on the streets together with hard drugs. Which was what the whole coffeeshop thing was trying to prevent.
Coffee? Is that what they are calling marijuana in the netherregions now?
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When the President took office, he directed all of his policymakers to develop policies based on science and research, not ideology or politics.
So of course they did the opposite by taking the old ideology and slapping this presidents name on it.
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Originally Posted by Gil Kerlikowske
According to scientists at the National Institutes of Health [NIDA]- the world's largest source of drug abuse research - marijuana use is associated with addiction, respiratory disease, and cognitive impairment.
“As the National Institute on Drug Abuse, our focus is primarily on the negative consequences of marijuana use. We generally do not fund research focused on the potential beneficial medical effects of marijuana.” -NIDA spokeswoman Shirley Simson
Only funding research that fits your conclusion, very scientific indeed! Just like in them there creationist magazines.
Yes Mr drug Czar we did know it causes cognitive impairment, that's why some people do it. Although it doesn't cause death like Tylenol, and I see that shit all over the place, they even put it in cute boxes and market it to kids! When are you going to do something about that?
Yes Mr drug Czar we also knew that people take themselves to the emergency room over pot, luckily most are just told they got too stoned and to sleep it off, compared to the guy in the next room who asphyxiated on his own vomit due to alcohol poisoning. This is clearly a problem, too many stoners are clogging up the ER when other serious drugs are killing people.
Yes Mr drug Czar, we do know smoking can be harmful to our health but I'm a bit confused as to why this causes the plant itself to be illegal considering it isn't always on fire and there is an entire legal fucking industry built around smoking. We also know pot seems to have increased in potency over the years, that just means people will smoke less for the same effect, decreasing that scary smoking thing you hate so much. Oh wait, more potent is bad too?
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Originally Posted by Gil Kerlikowske
Our commitment to a balanced approach to drug control is real. This last fiscal year alone, the Federal Government spent over $10 billion on drug education and treatment programs compared to just over $9 billion on drug related law enforcement in the U.S.
Oh wait, now it all makes sense. This isn't about science but about processing people through the system. On one side they have the systematic treatment, tracking and rehabilitation of so called addicts; on the other violence, tracking and imprisonment. Either way you are there to be processed, for your own good of course. No where do I see money to real medical research, strange.
An interesting interview with David Nutt about drug policies and safety.
Nutt was on the British Advisory Council for Misuse of Drugs until he was sacked after publishing a paper showing Ecstasy to be safer than horseback riding as well as alcohol and tobacco. He was almost blatantly told that he was there to tell the government that illegal activities are bad and not to touch legal activities no matter what the evidence.
Spokesman for Chihuahua state says US agencies don't want to end drug trade, a claim denied by other Mexican officials.
The CIA refused to comment directly on the allegations of complicity made by a low-level Mexican official [Reuters]
Juarez, Mexico - The US Central Intelligence Agency and other international security forces "don't fight drug traffickers", a spokesman for the Chihuahua state government in northern Mexico has told Al Jazeera, instead "they try to manage the drug trade".
Allegations about official complicity in the drug business are nothing new when they come from activists, professors, campaigners or even former officials. However, an official spokesman for the authorities in one of Mexico's most violent states - one which directly borders Texas - going on the record with such accusations is unique.
"It's like pest control companies, they only control," Guillermo Terrazas Villanueva, the Chihuahua spokesman, told Al Jazeera last month at his office in Juarez. "If you finish off the pests, you are out of a job. If they finish the drug business, they finish their jobs."
A spokesman for the CIA in Washington wouldn't comment on the accusations directly, instead he referred Al Jazeera to an official website.
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Cēterum cēnseō factiōnem Rēpūblicānam dēlendam esse īgnī ferrōque.
“All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.” -Adam Smith
If it didn't actually happen it sure as hell should have.
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Cēterum cēnseō factiōnem Rēpūblicānam dēlendam esse īgnī ferrōque.
“All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.” -Adam Smith
Almost anything would be a better use of resources than this crap.
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Cēterum cēnseō factiōnem Rēpūblicānam dēlendam esse īgnī ferrōque.
“All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.” -Adam Smith
everyone in the right circle knows that the CIA official complicity in the drug business
expecially it is wide knowledge that during the 60 and 70 the CIA used to distribuite drugs among the black communities to keep them stupid and dependent of big government welfare
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"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"(Margaret Thatcher)
Incidentally, I don't think anyone mentioned that Uruguay introduced a bill to legalise marijuana. So there's that.
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Cēterum cēnseō factiōnem Rēpūblicānam dēlendam esse īgnī ferrōque.
“All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.” -Adam Smith
You know that old saying: "As Uruguay goes, so goes the world".
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If everyone is in a shoving match to be behind the curve, some unlucky bastard sometimes volunteers accidentally...
In other news: you no longer need a special pass to get weed in our southern provinces (where a lot of Belgians, Germans, French and even Luxembourgers go). The measure was very unpopulair with the local authorities and especially the police in those areas, as people were reluctant to register and people started selling/buying it on the streets again. This doesn't mean that foreigners can buy any though, that measure still stands. You have to show i.d.
It’s very depressing,” Tarantino told CBC host George Stroumboulopoulos. “This War on Drugs and the mass incarcerations that have happened pretty much for the last 40 years has just decimated the black male population. It’s slavery. It’s just slavery through and through.”
“And it’s the same fear of the black male that existed back in the 1800s,” he explained. “Even having directed a movie about slavery and the things that we have in the slave town — the slave auction town where they’re moving back and forth — well, that looks like standing on the top tier of a prison system and watching the things go down. And between the private prisons and the public prisons and the way prisoners are traded back and forth.”
“And, literally, all the reason they had for keeping this going are all the same reason for keeping slavery going after the whole world had pretty much decided that that it was immoral: because it’s an industry.”
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Cēterum cēnseō factiōnem Rēpūblicānam dēlendam esse īgnī ferrōque.
“All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.” -Adam Smith
Mayors of major Dutch border area towns are refusing to enforce the policy that foreigners are not allowed to buy anything from coffeeshops. The mayor of Nijmegen has joined that rebellion today
It says here (in Dutch but of course) that after the mayor made his announcement that foreigners can buy weed again in coffeeshops, the drug dealers selling it in the streets have disappeared. Within a couple of hours in fact. And that, ladies and gentlemen, was the whole fracking point of coffeeshops in the first place. Making sure that people don't have to buy it in the streets where the distance between marijuana and heroin is virtually non-existent.
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Luxembourgers go). The measure was very unpopulair with the local authorities and especially the police in those areas, as people were reluctant to register and people started selling/buying it on the streets again. This doesn't mean that foreigners can buy any though, that measure still stands. You have to show i.d.
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