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Old 06-13-2016, 06:37 PM
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I cant stop laughing at his name, Erick Erickson... really!?
Also their quote of the day is Trump attacking Clinton for not having a presidential face and being a woman. Oh poes law you got me again!
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Old 06-13-2016, 06:42 PM
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Erick Erickson is kind of a big deal among the conservative blogosphere or whatever, because he founded RedState.com

He goes on the TVs and shit.

One thing I can say in his favor, which is about the only thing I can say in his favor, is that he and RedState are #nevertrump and seem to be sticking to their guns on that.

That quote about the face is actually Trump talking about Carly Fiorina. Given that they're #nevertrump, it is almost certainly meant as evidence of why Trump is unacceptable as a candidate, not an endorsement of the quote.
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Old 06-13-2016, 06:51 PM
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Indeed, I was saying it all reads like parody but isnt.
Like that quote could easily have been a parody or support for Trump just as much as anti trump.
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Old 06-13-2016, 08:21 PM
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I cant stop laughing at his name, Erick Erickson... really!?
For the longest time, when I'd hear his name, I'd get really confused thinking they were talking about this guy.

I eventually internalized the fact that almost nobody is ever talking about that guy.
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Old 06-13-2016, 08:34 PM
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I cant stop laughing at his name, Erick Erickson... really!?
I've seen him referred to as Erick "Erick" Erickson for extra lulzy emphasis.
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Old 06-13-2016, 10:43 PM
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[quote=godfry n. glad;1262367]Okay, okay, okay...

(snip)
That's the claim. My questions are, "Does anyone, say, law enforcement agency, KNOW where the perpetrator obtained those weapons?" (snip)



Florida gun shop owner: ‘Evil person’ legally purchased guns - POLITICO

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Old 06-13-2016, 11:29 PM
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Okay, okay, okay...

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That's the claim. My questions are, "Does anyone, say, law enforcement agency, KNOW where the perpetrator obtained those weapons?" (snip)
Florida gun shop owner: ‘Evil person’ legally purchased guns - POLITICO

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They knew he was an evil person when he came in and bought the weapon? Or, that only became apparent once he'd killed and maimed so many?

And, "legally purchased" in Florida has no way of finding out evilness of buyers? No 'waiting period'? No 'background check'? Y'know, to find out if maybe he's a felon who's not supposed to have a gun? Do they even do that?

That's all aside from the more general question of why anybody would ever have any legitimate purpose for using a 'military grade assault weapon with multiple oversized ammunition magazines' anywhere other than in the hands of battle-engaged military personnel.

ETA: Hmmm...It seems I ran across what I thought was a Jim Wright (Stonekettle Station) post about how the source gun shop was run by a former New York police officer, and avowed Islamofascist hater, who in the recent past has posted some rather nasty claims about what he thought should happen to the President. A frothing Obama-hater. Interesting.

EETA: Ah, here it is on AmericanNewsX
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This tells us what?

The guy was a follower of the NYPD?
He had pledged allegiance to the NYPD?
G4S or the NYPD radicalized him and taught him to hate gays?
M of A - Orlando Killer Was NYPD Fan - This Tells Us What?
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Old 06-14-2016, 03:44 PM
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This tells us what?

The guy was a follower of the NYPD?
He had pledged allegiance to the NYPD?
G4S or the NYPD radicalized him and taught him to hate gays?
M of A - Orlando Killer Was NYPD Fan - This Tells Us What?

Dunno.

It's an interesting connection with the gun dealer, a 'former NYPD cop' with birther-like anti-Obama sentiments.

Don't you think?
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Old 06-15-2016, 11:26 PM
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Man...I gotta admire the restraint. But then, maybe it is way too early. The grief is still strong.

But...If I was part of a community which had as many of its members, that is friends, acquaintances, lovers, neighbors...gunned down like that. I'd probably be looking to have drinks with Vyacheslav at the gunstore.

But then, it's not my community....I'm not gay, and I'm physically located on the opposite of the continent. I know none of the victims or their grieving friends, lovers, family, or neighbors. It's probably all a good thing. But it sure doesn't feel that way.
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Old 06-20-2016, 05:47 AM
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Turkey police use tear gas and rubber bullets to disperse LGBT gay pride rally in Istanbul - CBS News
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I cant stop laughing at his name, Erick Erickson... really!?
For the longest time, when I'd hear his name, I'd get really confused thinking they were talking about this guy.

I eventually internalized the fact that almost nobody is ever talking about that guy.
Me, too.
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Old 06-23-2016, 08:28 PM
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Transport chiefs remove Tom of Finland posters after pornography complaint | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi

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Yay Roberta Kaplan! :cheer: Yay judge! :cheer:

Mississippi HB 1523 blocked by Judge Carlton Reeves.

Can some :ff: legal-type person give us an idea on what this could mean for setting a precedent?
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I'll let the Esquires opine on the precedent question. I just want to say that this is an awesome bit of brutally honest takedown:
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A story about gay Syrian refugees in Idaho that doesn't make you hate humanity. I know; I was shocked too.

Nice Time! Gay Syrian Refugee Pretty Darn Happy To Be In Boise. Yes, The One In Idaho | Wonkette
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It's very rare that I call someone outright evil.

Texas School District Will Out Trans Students To Parents For Their Own Good, Even If That’s Bad

The wastes of human flesh who came up with this policy are outright fucking evil.
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BREAKING: NBA To Move All-Star Game Over Hate Law - Joe.My.God.

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Even before the Hobby Lobby decision was handed down from the Supreme Court, people were predicting that it would be used to justify discrimination. Indeed, Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s dissent predicted exactly that.

Ginsburg has, of course, now been vindicated. If I were a bookmaker I’d probably give better than 50% odds of this decision being overturned by a higher court, but the fact that it’s happened at all is infuriating as fuck.

Bonus stupid shit from Rush Limbaugh that we can all :hoot: at.
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EEOC v. R.G. & G.R. Funeral Home, Inc.

Who could have ever predicted that when SCOTUS used the Religious Freedom Restoration Act to grant certain employers, specifically closely held corporations and their owners, a religious exemption from complying with a federal law (a provision of the Affordable Care Act) that other closely-held corporate employers would successfully argue that RFRA mandates granting them a religious exemption from the sex discrimination provisions of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

Well, pretty much everyone predicted exactly that. The employee in the R.G. case was a pre-op transsexual who wanted to live as a woman in advance of surgery and asked the employer for permission to comply with the company's dress code for women. Are there other potential applications of Hobby Lobby in the Title VII context? Maybe so!

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Wimminz: "Susan, we're cutting your pay by 75% and increasing your hours by 25 per week. God told me in a dream that bitches be crazy and must not be paid anything close to what a man makes."

Other religious folk: "Derrick, I just found out you're affiliated with the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879. I'm with the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912. GTFO and never come back, you filthy heretic."
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This should make some smiles.

'He was enraged!': Gay university student drowns out preacher's homophobic rants with her BAGPIPES after suffering years of abuse | Daily Mail Online
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Just in case anyone hadn't already realised, Jeffrey Tambor is awesome.

Jeffrey Tambor: I'd like to be the last cisgender man playing a transgender woman - LA Times
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UPDATING: Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore Suspended Over Actions Opposing Same-Sex Marriage - The New Civil Rights Movement

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So I missed Coming Out Day, but here's a thing that resonated with me on a couple levels:


Guy writes awkward situation greeting cards.
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